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-Rolling.
-We're rolling on him.

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Roher:
Okay. We're going, guys?

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-Yeah.
-[ Russian accent ] Yeah.

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Okay, so, Alexei,
I want to talk about something

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that we sort of touched
on this morning.

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And you might hate this,

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but I really want you
to think about it.

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If you are killed,
if this does happen,

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what message
do you leave behind

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to the Russian people?

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Oh, come on, Daniel.

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No.
No way.

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It's like you're making a movie
for the case of my death.

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Like, again, I'm ready
to answer your question,

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but please let it be
another movie.

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Movie number two.

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Like, let's make a trailer
out of this movie,

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and in the case
I would be killed,

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let's make
a boring movie of memory.

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}[ Speaking Russian ]

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}♪♪

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Man:
Alexei Navalny is stepping back

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into another showdown
with the Kremlin.

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Woman:
What to do with Navalny

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presents a conundrum
for the Kremlin.

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Let him go and risk
looking weak or lock him up

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knowing it could turn him
into a political martyr.

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}♪♪

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Hi.

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[ Applause ]

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[ Speaks indistinctly ]

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Man #2: Are you not scared,
Alexei?

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Woman #2: What do you expect
in Moscow?

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}[ People chanting "Navalny" ]

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{\an8}[ Cheers and applause ]

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Woman #3: Unexpectedly,

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Vladimir Putin
has a genuine challenger.

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A handsome 41-year-old lawyer,
Alexei Navalny,

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who has chosen one of the most
dangerous occupations

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in the world --

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running against the man
who controls the Kremlin.

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Man #3: More than any other
opposition figure in Russia,

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Alexei Navalny gets
ordinary people active protest.

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[ Chanting in Russian ]

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Alexei:
If I want to fight Putin,

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if I want to be
a leader of a country,

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I have to do something
practical about it.

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Well, uh, I have to kind
of organize people.

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I was banned from everything.

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Television, banned.

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Newspapers, blacklisted.

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Rallies, forbidden.

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I realized,
I can do a lot on my own

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with the support
of my wife, Yulia.

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Just small group of people,
I can rely on.

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Zero money, a lot of work.

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Internet and that's it.

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Man #4: His youngest fans
have turned to TikTok,

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which has been crucial
in spreading the word.

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Woman #4: Navalny's
posted hundreds of videos

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about his
corruption investigations,

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and they're wildly popular.

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Roher: The Kremlin hates Navalny
so much

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that they literally refuse
to say his name.

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[ Pounding ]

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Alexei:
Our office was raided,

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and they just confiscated
everything.

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Everything.

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They splash a toxic liquid
to my face

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and my first
thought was "Jesus.

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I will be some kind of monster
until the end of my days."

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As I became more and more
famous guy,

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I was totally sure that my life
became safer and safer

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because I am kind of famous guy.

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And it would be problematic
for them just to kill me.

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Roher: And, boy,
were you wrong.

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Yes. I was very wrong.

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[ Chuckles ]

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{\an8}♪♪

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[ Man speaks Russian ]

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"Hmm, why is nobody here?

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Why is there kind of --"

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I even -- I even have
this strange feeling

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like a --
like a lack of respect.

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"Seriously?

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I'm here,
and where is my police?"

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The whole trip was
the smoothest trip

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I ever had in regions.

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I am a kind of slave
of Thursdays,

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because on Thursday,
I have my online YouTube show.

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And then weekend, I can spend
with my family

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before another trip
to another region.

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I was going home and then...

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I died.

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[ Moaning in agony ]

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Man #5: Passengers on his flight
from Siberia

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heard Alexei Navalny
cry out in agony.

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[ Navalny continues moaning ]

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{\an8}[ Siren wailing ]

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{\an8}Other passengers filming
just after the plane

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makes an emergency
landing in Siberia.

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Navalny then rushed
to the hospital

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where he was
put on a ventilator.

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His spokeswoman saying
Navalny was poisoned.

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Roher: His wife raced to be
by his side.

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}♪♪

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[ Yelling in Russian ]

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}[ Doctor speaking Russian ]

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{\an8}Interpreter:
We've come to the conclusion

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{\an8}that judging by the fact

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{\an8}there were no poisons
found in his blood

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{\an8}or no other
biological materials,

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{\an8}he has a metabolic disorder,

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lowering of blood sugar levels
to be specific.

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Man #6: We're hearing state news
agencies here that are backed

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by the Kremlin suggesting
that hallucinogenic drugs

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may be involved
but not poisoning.

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[ Crowd chanting in Russian ]

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{\an8}[ Speaking German ]

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Woman #5: This morning,
an air ambulance

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from a German charity landed.

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Interpreter:
We have to make sure

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his condition
is completely stable.

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{\an8}We cannot transfer him
in this state

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{\an8}even if his family
have consented to it.

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[ Applause ]

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{\an8}[ Man speaking Russian ]

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[ Siren wailing ]

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}♪♪

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Grozev:
The moment when I heard the news

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that Navalny was poisoned,

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my first thought was,
"Can this be the Kremlin?

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Would they be so dumb to try
to kill an opposition figure?

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The main opposition figure?"

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I was skeptical.
I thought, "Hmm.

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Maybe it's one
of the many oligarchs

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on whose feet he has stepped.

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Either it's
a state-ordered attack

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or it is somebody
who is trying

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to assassinate
opposition figures

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in order to appease Putin."

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{\an8}Man #7:
The closest anyone's come

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{\an8}to tracing a poisoning
to Vladimir Putin --

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{\an8}The 2018 attack
in Salisbury, England.

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{\an8}Man #8: A defiant Kremlin
insisting again

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{\an8}that he had nothing to do with
the brazen assassination attempt

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{\an8}of former Russian spy
Sergei Skripal.

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Skripal was poisoned

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by the military-grade
nerve agent Novichok.

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The insidiousness
of Novichok is that

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it actually starts switching off
your nerve connectors

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in your body one-by-one.

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If it's dosed properly, it will
just turn you off as a body.

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But then within hours,
any trace, it will disappear.

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So it will always, forever look
like it was a natural death.

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And this is why it appears to be
the preferred form of killing

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for people whose death will be
under public scrutiny,

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such as Navalny.

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}There was a lot of pressure
for us

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to start investigating.

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Media departments in Russia
reached out to us

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and said, "Can you help?"

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We looked at it, and we thought,
"There's no hope in hell

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we can investigate a crime
that happened in Russia

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in the remote corners
of Siberia,

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sitting here
comfortably in Europe."

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We didn't even try
in the beginning.

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}♪♪

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Woman #6: Alexei Navalny arrives
at this hospital in Berlin

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with his wife, Yulia.

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A spokesperson tweeted,
"The struggle for Alexei's life

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and health is just beginning.

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Here at the hospital,
both inside and out,

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he'll be watched."

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{\an8}♪♪

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Dasha: To have your dad,

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an opposition leader
being poisoned

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by we don't know what,

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we don't know how,
we don't know when,

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and just be
in a random hospital.

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It was just...

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It was surreal.
It was literally like a book.

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[ Cellphone ringing ]

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Hello.

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The doctors assured
they can't say anything

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about his brain

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to which extent he will recover

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even if they manage
to wake him up.

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Many millions
of Navalny supporters

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were trying to figure out
how to help.

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We, in Berlin, are a small team.

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We had to dive into, like,
actually getting things done.

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Pevchikh:
We all were very skeptical

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about investigating
Alexei's poisoning.

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As opposed to previous cases,

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this poisoning took place
on the Russian soil,

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{\an8}so no one is going
to share CCTV footage with us.

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{\an8}We're not going to have
fancy videos

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{\an8}from the airport where
the poisoners fly in and out.

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And as much as it hurts
to admit,

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while Putin is in power,
we'll never find out the truth.

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[ Camera shutters clicking ]

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Man #9: Yulia, how is
your husband this morning?

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It was so crazy, like it's
Putin's signature poison.

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We were actually so shocked.

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So he didn't just decide
to murder him, but to poison.

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And not just to poison,
but exactly Novichok.

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This was, like, really, like,

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leaving his signature
on the crime scene.

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{\an8}♪♪

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When you come to a room
of a comatose patient,

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you are starting
to just tell him the news.

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Telling him his story.

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"Alexei, don't worry.
You were poisoned.

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There was a murder attempt.

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Putin tried to kill you
with Novichok."

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And he opened his, like,
blue eyes wide

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and looked at me
and said, very clear...

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"Oh, come on. Poisoned?
I don't believe it."

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Like, he's back.
This is Alexei.

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Putin's supposed to be
not so stupid

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to use this Novichok.

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His wording, his expletive,
his intonation.

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If you want to kill someone,
just shoot him.

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Jesus Christ.

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Like, real Alexei.

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It's impossible to believe it.

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It's kind of stupid.

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The whole idea of poisoning

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with a chemical weapon,
what the ****?

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This is why this is so smart,
because even reasonable people,

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they refuse
to believe like, "What?

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Come on. Poisoned?

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Seriously?"

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}[ Merkel speaking German ]

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{\an8}♪♪

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Grozev: Traditional journalism

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implies you meeting
with a source

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and that source
telling you a story.

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In today's world of fake news,
we don't trust sources

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because we don't trust humans.

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We trust data.

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Bellingcat is an organization
of digital nerds,

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most of us with a little bit

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{\an8}of almost autistic-like
fascination with numbers.

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Every time you use your e-mail,
you make a phone call,

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make a doctor's appointment,
take a plane or a train,

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any time you use the ATM,

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every time you actually look
at the screen of your phone,

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that leaves a trace.

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In place like Russia,

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imagine the person who works
at a travel agency

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that has access
to the flight manifests,

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they're getting, what,
25 bucks a day as a salary.

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And then for another $25,

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they will be able to sell
that flight manifest

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to anybody who asks for it,

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just because they'll double
their income for the day.

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This is a whole industry.

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Data brokers are
on the dark web.

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You negotiate the price and
within a few minutes, they say,

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"Yep, I can get that data
for you by tomorrow."

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And then you have
to send Bitcoin.

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Now, Bellingcat can't pay
for that data

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because it's a foundation,

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so I have to pay
for that data myself.

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Over the last five years of me
working on data journalism,

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I would say I've spent $150,000.

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My wife has no idea about this.

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My wife suspects I've spent
probably $2,000 or $3,000.

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If she knew the real quantum,
she wouldn't be my wife.

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Roher: But she's gonna
watch the movie.

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She's not watching this movie.

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I'm absolutely sure she's not
watching this movie now.

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Wheeeee!

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Volkov: Our expectation was

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once he's released
from intensive care,

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he will have a desire
to go to Russia immediately.

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To our great relief,
he told me,

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"I better spend
several months here.

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I want to go back to Russia
strong and fully recovered."

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[ Clicks tongue ]

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{\an8}♪♪

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{\an8}♪♪

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Grozev: For the longest time,

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I wasn't sure
what to make of Navalny.

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I had always wondered how much
of an independent figure he is

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or is he one of the many
fake opposition figure

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created by the Kremlin.

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I've criticized him on Twitter.

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I mean, he was known for having
flirted with the extreme right

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in the early days
of his career.

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He'd walked side-by-side

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with some pretty nasty
nationalists and racists.

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Had he moved beyond that?

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Had he actually become
a reverse dark knight?

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Alexei: Within all my career,

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I've been asked the same
15 questions all the time.

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Are you afraid?

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Are you working for Kremlin?

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What is your family doing?

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You have a responsibility
for your family.

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When if it's, foreign --
foreign, uh, journalist,

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they're asking about
nationalism and Russian March.

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And every one of them,
Jesus Christ,

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just watch previous interviews.

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Roher: Hold on.
Were there not

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a couple of Sieg Heil-ers
at that thing?

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Sorry?

324
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,760
Were there not a couple
of Nazi guys at that march?

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Certainly a Sieg Heil-ers
would be a different category

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that you would not
want to associate with
or march beside.

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Well, in the normal world,

328
00:29:09,983 --> 00:29:13,486
in the normal, uh, political
system, of course,

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I would never be within the same
political party with them.

330
00:29:18,910 --> 00:29:19,759
But we are creating coalition,

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broader coalition
to fight the regime

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just to achieve the situation

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where everyone
can participate in election.

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'Cause a lot of politicians
would be uncomfortable

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even associating or being
in the same photograph

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as one of these guys.

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You're comfortable
with that?

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00:29:34,274 --> 00:29:36,509
I'm okay with that,
and I'm --

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I consider it's --
it's my political superpower,

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I can talk to everyone.

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00:29:42,515 --> 00:29:46,586
Anyway, well, they, uh, are
citizen of Russian federation

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and if I want to fight Putin,

343
00:29:48,621 --> 00:29:50,824
if I want to be a leader
of a country,

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I can-- I cannot just ignore
the huge part of it.

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00:29:54,794 --> 00:29:56,129
Well, there are a lot of people

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who call themselves
nationalists.

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00:29:58,531 --> 00:29:59,699
Okay, let's discuss it.

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00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:01,267
We're living in the country

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when they are poisoning
a politician and killing people.

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And, uh,
arresting people for nothing.

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Uh, so, of course,
I am totally fine

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to sit with a guy
whose, uh, whose rally

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looks kind of not
very good for me.

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00:30:38,705 --> 00:30:41,410
Grozev: The Russian media
didn't find anything,

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and German investigators
didn't have the jurisdiction.

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00:30:43,843 --> 00:30:46,312
So we realized, "There's nobody
who's actually going

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00:30:46,379 --> 00:30:50,884
to actively investigate this
unless we jump into this."

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{\an8}♪♪

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We knew that the poison
was Novichok

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and Novichok, we had proven
in the previous investigation,

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is only manufactured
in this facility

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00:31:03,363 --> 00:31:06,332
called the Signal Institute.

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00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:08,702
The Signal Institute in Moscow

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00:31:08,768 --> 00:31:11,671
works under the guise
of a R&D center

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00:31:11,738 --> 00:31:17,444
that develops advanced forms
of sports, nutrition drinks.

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00:31:17,544 --> 00:31:19,245
That's the legend.

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00:31:19,346 --> 00:31:21,114
Yet, they employ,
for this work,

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12 scientists whose only
experience and background

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is in chemical weapons.

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00:31:28,221 --> 00:31:31,291
Our hypothesis --
this is the entity

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that actually provides
the poison for the killers

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who travel around the world
poisoning people with Novichok.

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So what we did is we bought from
the Russian black market

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the phone records for the head
of the Signal Institute.

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00:31:45,472 --> 00:31:48,740
We looked at numbers
that only appear

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00:31:48,141 --> 00:31:51,144
just before
the poisoning of Navalny,

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00:31:51,244 --> 00:31:53,480
and those were suspicious.

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00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:55,882
But once we have
a suspicious number,

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you go through a number
of Russian apps

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00:31:57,617 --> 00:32:00,487
that allow you to see
how that phone number is listed

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00:32:00,587 --> 00:32:02,889
in other people's phonebooks.

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00:32:02,956 --> 00:32:05,258
So, for example,
I put in my number

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00:32:05,325 --> 00:32:08,395
and it will show up as Christo
the journalist from Bellingcat,

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because somebody would have put
my name into their phonebook

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and that description would have
been shared into this app.

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00:32:14,768 --> 00:32:16,690
First number I looked up,

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showed up as
"Alexey doctor from FSB."

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00:32:19,606 --> 00:32:21,841
Well, that was interesting.
A doctor from FSB?

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00:32:21,941 --> 00:32:23,576
Alexey?
But that was not enough.

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00:32:23,643 --> 00:32:26,746
We couldn't place a real person
behind this name.

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00:32:26,813 --> 00:32:29,449
Then, I would look up
if this number showed up

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00:32:29,516 --> 00:32:32,919
in any car-registration
databases.

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00:32:32,986 --> 00:32:37,357
And we found an actual
Alexey Alexandrov who owns a car

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00:32:37,457 --> 00:32:41,127
and this number was listed
for contacting that person.

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00:32:41,194 --> 00:32:43,463
So, then you have a real person
with a birthday.

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00:32:43,530 --> 00:32:45,331
Then, you look up
his passport file,

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00:32:45,432 --> 00:32:47,200
you see his face.

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00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:50,470
You repeat that many times with
the other suspicious numbers,

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00:32:50,537 --> 00:32:53,707
and then you have a short list
of interesting people.

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00:32:53,807 --> 00:32:55,975
And these became
our prime suspects.

401
00:32:57,811 --> 00:33:00,680
Now, we knew when Navalny
had traveled to Siberia.

402
00:33:00,780 --> 00:33:02,716
We had the actual
passenger manifests

403
00:33:02,816 --> 00:33:06,386
of six different flights
that had flown into Novosibirsk

404
00:33:06,486 --> 00:33:09,222
where Navalny flew from Moscow
on the day before,

405
00:33:09,322 --> 00:33:12,692
during, and after the day
on which he arrived there.

406
00:33:12,792 --> 00:33:15,562
So, we needed to see if any
of those suspicious people

407
00:33:15,662 --> 00:33:19,232
traveled to Siberia
at the time of the poisoning,

408
00:33:19,332 --> 00:33:21,670
and we found an overlap.

409
00:33:22,869 --> 00:33:26,906
We found a nest of wasps
we didn't know existed.

410
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:31,311
It's a domestic assassination
machine on an industrial scale.

411
00:33:31,378 --> 00:33:34,347
I was absolutely shocked
that this was so fast

412
00:33:34,414 --> 00:33:37,217
and the whole plot
disentangled so quickly,

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00:33:37,317 --> 00:33:40,420
so I just reached out by Twitter
and said, "Alexei,

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00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,423
I think we may have found
who poisoned you."

415
00:33:47,994 --> 00:33:50,563
Alexei: After I had went out
of the hospital,

416
00:33:50,663 --> 00:33:54,267
I decided to move
to Black Forest

417
00:33:54,367 --> 00:33:57,437
and live in some small village.

418
00:33:57,537 --> 00:34:02,942
You can just walk for hours
and not meet any person at all.

419
00:34:04,511 --> 00:34:06,546
These are my German friends,
actually.

420
00:34:06,613 --> 00:34:11,510
The little pony is my friend
and donkey is Yulia's friend.

421
00:34:11,117 --> 00:34:14,621
And this is, uh,
routine of our walk.

422
00:34:14,721 --> 00:34:17,230
Come here, my little pony.

423
00:34:19,590 --> 00:34:20,460
Isn't he sweet?

424
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,797
Better than your donkey.

425
00:34:23,897 --> 00:34:26,132
Everybody like
the small pony.

426
00:34:26,232 --> 00:34:27,634
It's like usual.

427
00:34:27,734 --> 00:34:29,769
But donkey is like...

428
00:34:29,869 --> 00:34:31,938
You're scaring him.
Go away.

429
00:34:32,380 --> 00:34:33,273
Go away.

430
00:34:33,373 --> 00:34:36,576
Aw, you poor guy.

431
00:34:36,643 --> 00:34:39,546
Donkey, hi.
Of course, you like me.

432
00:34:39,612 --> 00:34:41,114
Oh, come on.

433
00:34:41,214 --> 00:34:43,917
This is a very
irritable woman.

434
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,387
Come on,
my mighty horse.

435
00:34:47,454 --> 00:34:49,989
Come here.
More carrot.

436
00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:51,591
You grow big.

437
00:34:51,658 --> 00:34:54,327
They are cute,
but they are not very smart.

438
00:34:54,427 --> 00:34:55,829
So, they decided,

439
00:34:55,929 --> 00:34:58,665
for their fence,
not to provide electricity.

440
00:34:58,765 --> 00:35:01,301
Stop. Do it.

441
00:35:01,401 --> 00:35:09,743
{\an8}♪♪

442
00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:23,189
Ahhh.

443
00:35:23,289 --> 00:35:26,860
Yulia want an apple

444
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,362
and asked me
to take it.

445
00:35:29,462 --> 00:35:33,967
But it's Germany,
so it's someone's apple.

446
00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:35,468
And there is a police
over there.

447
00:35:35,535 --> 00:35:38,605
I'll come there when
it will be dark.

448
00:35:38,672 --> 00:35:40,674
And no police.

449
00:35:40,774 --> 00:35:42,275
So, you're
a Russian criminal

450
00:35:42,342 --> 00:35:44,310
who arrived to Germany?

451
00:35:44,377 --> 00:35:47,447
No, it's, like --
It's okay.

452
00:35:47,514 --> 00:35:49,549
It belongs to,
I don't know.

453
00:35:49,649 --> 00:35:51,885
How do you know? How do you know
that it belonged --

454
00:35:51,985 --> 00:35:52,986
Because it's open place.

455
00:35:53,530 --> 00:35:55,388
There's no anything,
which...

456
00:35:55,488 --> 00:35:58,580
This is a very Russian style,

457
00:35:58,158 --> 00:36:00,860
you know, of thinking
about property.

458
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,300
Like,
it belong to everyone,

459
00:36:04,130 --> 00:36:05,565
because
it's an open place.

460
00:36:05,665 --> 00:36:07,233
Just come and get it.

461
00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:13,873
{\an8}♪♪

462
00:36:13,973 --> 00:36:16,242
Pevchikh:
The story of this guy

463
00:36:16,343 --> 00:36:18,244
who lives in Vienna
but is Bulgarian

464
00:36:18,345 --> 00:36:21,548
but worked in Russia and that
he has all of his own money

465
00:36:21,648 --> 00:36:22,916
and he spends it all
on investigations

466
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,651
in Russian crimes.

467
00:36:24,718 --> 00:36:27,587
He just sounded too suspicious.

468
00:36:27,687 --> 00:36:29,556
Too good to be true.

469
00:36:29,656 --> 00:36:31,925
Too...capable?

470
00:36:32,250 --> 00:36:34,728
He sounded a bit, you know,
made up.

471
00:36:37,364 --> 00:36:39,232
Roher: Are you confident

472
00:36:39,332 --> 00:36:41,501
that he is not
MI6 or CIA?

473
00:36:41,568 --> 00:36:43,770
I'm pretty confident.
I wouldn't say I rule it out,

474
00:36:43,870 --> 00:36:46,720
but I'm pretty confident
that he's not.

475
00:36:46,172 --> 00:36:50,430
{\an8}♪♪

476
00:36:50,110 --> 00:36:54,948
Alexei: I was suspicious
about this guy from Twitter.

477
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,885
I just saw his old laptop

478
00:36:58,952 --> 00:37:02,122
and all these tables with data.

479
00:37:04,557 --> 00:37:06,526
Turns out, and I was
very surprised,

480
00:37:06,593 --> 00:37:08,628
that the whole thing
about Bellingcat

481
00:37:08,728 --> 00:37:13,400
is just one smart guy,
no CIA involved, no MI6.

482
00:37:13,466 --> 00:37:16,803
He's just a-a nice
and very kind

483
00:37:16,903 --> 00:37:19,939
Bulgarian nerd with a laptop.

484
00:37:49,469 --> 00:37:51,304
Grozev: I will show you
photographs.

485
00:37:51,404 --> 00:37:53,440
Tell me if you recognize
any of the people

486
00:37:53,506 --> 00:37:54,674
in those photographs.

487
00:38:14,794 --> 00:38:16,429
Grozev: Getting through
emotionally to Alexei

488
00:38:16,496 --> 00:38:17,764
was a piece of cake.

489
00:38:17,831 --> 00:38:19,966
Took literally an hour.

490
00:38:20,330 --> 00:38:22,969
Getting through to Maria
took much longer.

491
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,772
She was very tough.
She never smiled.

492
00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:28,608
She was the one vetting me,
whether I am a spy or not.

493
00:38:37,384 --> 00:38:38,852
But we needed information

494
00:38:38,952 --> 00:38:41,388
that only his team
would be privy to.

495
00:38:41,488 --> 00:38:43,723
So we found a very
workable arrangement,

496
00:38:43,823 --> 00:38:46,659
which was completely ethical
and acceptable to us.

497
00:38:46,726 --> 00:38:49,496
We agreed that Maria Pevchikh
would be working

498
00:38:49,562 --> 00:38:50,864
as part of our team

499
00:38:50,964 --> 00:38:52,699
and she would not be
sharing with Alexei

500
00:38:52,799 --> 00:38:54,334
all the information
in real time

501
00:38:54,401 --> 00:38:56,903
so that we wouldn't
be influenced

502
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:58,805
by the bias of the victim.

503
00:39:16,222 --> 00:39:24,264
{\an8}♪♪

504
00:39:24,364 --> 00:39:32,439
{\an8}♪♪

505
00:39:32,539 --> 00:39:38,578
{\an8}♪♪

506
00:39:38,678 --> 00:39:41,448
When we discovered
this clandestine operation,

507
00:39:41,548 --> 00:39:45,185
it was so shocking that even
to us, it looked unbelievable.

508
00:39:45,251 --> 00:39:46,619
I mean, come on.

509
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:50,390
The government is paying a whole
team of 20-plus people

510
00:39:50,457 --> 00:39:52,759
whose only job is
to poison other Russians?

511
00:39:52,859 --> 00:39:54,394
That sounds improbable.

512
00:39:54,461 --> 00:39:57,197
So we needed other journalists
to look at it.

513
00:39:57,263 --> 00:39:58,898
I would like to share
the limelight

514
00:39:58,965 --> 00:40:00,400
with some global medias

515
00:40:00,467 --> 00:40:03,403
so that is validated
by more than just us.

516
00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:04,971
So, CNN and Spiegel
are fine with you?

517
00:40:05,710 --> 00:40:06,706
-Yeah. Absolutely.
-Okay.

518
00:40:06,773 --> 00:40:09,709
That means that we need to film
exactly like a week from now,

519
00:40:09,776 --> 00:40:10,977
maybe, like...

520
00:40:19,386 --> 00:40:21,988
{\an8}♪♪

521
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,657
{\an8}♪♪

522
00:40:24,758 --> 00:40:25,992
Grozev: We had a nightmare

523
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,428
trying to get everybody to stick
to the same time.

524
00:40:28,495 --> 00:40:30,830
It's all timed
for a simultaneous release.

525
00:40:30,930 --> 00:40:32,298
All the media channels

526
00:40:32,399 --> 00:40:34,968
are going to drop the bombshell
simultaneously.

527
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,436
Lister: There's a huge debate
as to whether

528
00:40:36,503 --> 00:40:40,600
this was intended
to incapacitate or kill.

529
00:40:40,106 --> 00:40:41,508
Man #10:
Incapacitate or kill?

530
00:40:41,608 --> 00:40:44,611
Yeah.

531
00:40:44,678 --> 00:40:46,120
If, for example,

532
00:40:46,112 --> 00:40:47,414
Navalny had laundry
returned to him

533
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,820
while he was staying
at the Tomsk Hotel

534
00:40:49,149 --> 00:40:50,517
the afternoon
before he left...

535
00:40:50,617 --> 00:40:52,986
...would that be
a point of access?

536
00:40:53,860 --> 00:40:55,210
It's definitely a possibility.

537
00:40:55,121 --> 00:40:58,458
The question is how well you
can dose the agent that way.

538
00:40:58,525 --> 00:41:00,260
You put, let's say, 10 times

539
00:41:00,126 --> 00:41:01,528
the deadly dose
on the clothing.

540
00:41:01,628 --> 00:41:03,290
You must be sure, however,
that at least

541
00:41:03,129 --> 00:41:05,832
one lethal dose
gets into the body.

542
00:41:05,932 --> 00:41:13,390
{\an8}♪♪

543
00:41:22,115 --> 00:41:24,784
Tomorrow we'll set up a phone
with fake I.D.

544
00:41:24,851 --> 00:41:27,554
So if we can call them
through this number...

545
00:41:27,654 --> 00:41:28,988
Yulia: We pretend
to be someone else.

546
00:41:29,550 --> 00:41:31,725
...we can try
to prank them.

547
00:41:31,825 --> 00:41:34,127
Yes, of course.

548
00:41:34,194 --> 00:41:36,663
Navalny will call
personally these poisoners,

549
00:41:36,730 --> 00:41:39,232
one by one,
and we will record this.

550
00:41:39,332 --> 00:41:40,567
Hi, this is Navalny.

551
00:41:40,667 --> 00:41:43,470
You may remember me
from trying to kill me.

552
00:41:59,552 --> 00:42:00,754
{\an8}Man #11: Alexei,
great to see you.

553
00:42:00,854 --> 00:42:03,189
Thank you very much
for coming.

554
00:42:03,256 --> 00:42:06,860
Is it your contention
that Vladimir Putin

555
00:42:06,926 --> 00:42:08,762
must have been
aware of this?

556
00:42:08,862 --> 00:42:10,530
Of course, 100%.

557
00:42:10,597 --> 00:42:12,766
It could have not
happened without...

558
00:42:28,615 --> 00:42:30,583
Alexei:
Who's the most stupid?

559
00:42:30,684 --> 00:42:33,530
Grozev:
Most stupid of them?

560
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:34,587
Well, definitely

561
00:42:34,688 --> 00:42:37,791
these are Spetsnaz guys
with no real training.

562
00:42:37,891 --> 00:42:41,628
I think it makes sense to try
to prank stupid guys

563
00:42:41,728 --> 00:42:46,566
and, uh, maybe
these non-military guys.

564
00:42:51,710 --> 00:42:52,138
Roher:
When you were a kid,

565
00:42:52,238 --> 00:42:53,807
did you have
any political awareness?

566
00:42:53,907 --> 00:42:55,141
Was this
a political family?

567
00:42:55,241 --> 00:42:57,444
Did your family talk
about politics?

568
00:42:57,544 --> 00:43:02,148
Yes, my family talks
about politics all the time

569
00:43:02,248 --> 00:43:05,552
and it was very, uh...

570
00:43:07,587 --> 00:43:12,580
They start to talk much more
after Chernobyl disaster.

571
00:43:12,125 --> 00:43:15,428
Because actually,
my father and his family,

572
00:43:15,495 --> 00:43:16,796
they are from Chernobyl,

573
00:43:16,896 --> 00:43:19,966
from the small village
2 kilometers away.

574
00:43:20,660 --> 00:43:23,803
And, I would say, 10 kilometers
away from the nuclear station.

575
00:43:23,903 --> 00:43:26,840
Everyone knows that there was
an explosion

576
00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:30,343
of a nuclear station,
but news keeping silence

577
00:43:30,443 --> 00:43:35,415
and so all this nuclear
and radioactive dust

578
00:43:35,482 --> 00:43:39,953
was on these fields
and they were forced to go

579
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,591
to plant potatoes
just to prevent rumors,

580
00:43:44,657 --> 00:43:48,161
just to explain population
that everything is fine.

581
00:43:48,261 --> 00:43:50,864
Everything is okay!
Go and work in the fields!

582
00:43:50,964 --> 00:43:56,536
And with the first appearance
of Putin on the screen,

583
00:43:56,636 --> 00:43:57,937
I just felt it.

584
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,542
I have this same feeling
like I am watching TV

585
00:44:02,642 --> 00:44:04,477
and I am watching
political lizard

586
00:44:04,544 --> 00:44:07,480
and he's looking into my eyes
and lying to me.

587
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,220
This is the biggest
challenge for me.

588
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,725
I tried to practice juggling
about a month

589
00:44:18,825 --> 00:44:21,327
and because of coordination
and balancing,

590
00:44:21,394 --> 00:44:24,731
because you need
some balance here, it's...

591
00:44:24,831 --> 00:44:26,533
I'm very bad in it.

592
00:44:26,633 --> 00:44:34,674
{\an8}♪♪

593
00:44:34,741 --> 00:44:36,710
Schmid: I think
he wants to make sure

594
00:44:36,810 --> 00:44:38,144
this hits home in Russian media.

595
00:44:38,211 --> 00:44:40,914
And he thinks that's best done
if he does it.

596
00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:42,549
One more time.

597
00:44:42,649 --> 00:44:47,253
So, we're not being journalists
reporting about some politician,

598
00:44:47,354 --> 00:44:49,890
but we're reporting
about a politician

599
00:44:49,189 --> 00:44:53,426
who has his own YouTube show
with over 13 million followers

600
00:44:53,526 --> 00:44:56,696
and who considers himself
half a journalist.

601
00:44:56,763 --> 00:44:59,532
Ahh!

602
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:01,000
Yeah!

603
00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:03,103
Actually, this first time
you're lucky.

604
00:45:03,203 --> 00:45:05,380
That's a very unusual situation,

605
00:45:05,105 --> 00:45:07,407
and it doesn't
make things easier.

606
00:45:07,507 --> 00:45:08,608
Dasha:
Mom, is this yours?

607
00:45:08,708 --> 00:45:10,100
No, you had water.

608
00:45:13,380 --> 00:45:16,249
Hold my beer
while I making a TikTok.

609
00:45:18,218 --> 00:45:19,419
{\an8}No, no, no.

610
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:22,956
{\an8}Just the second one,
you just are filming me

611
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,250
{\an8}with him and I'm asking,
"How bizarre?"

612
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:27,794
{\an8}Okay.

613
00:45:27,894 --> 00:45:29,195
♪ How bizarre ♪

614
00:45:29,262 --> 00:45:31,464
Ho. Again.

615
00:45:31,564 --> 00:45:33,299
♪ How bizarre ♪

616
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,735
You should remove
second one.

617
00:45:35,802 --> 00:45:36,736
Oh, we can do that?

618
00:45:36,803 --> 00:45:38,638
Yes, of course.

619
00:45:38,738 --> 00:45:40,400
This is, you know...

620
00:45:40,106 --> 00:45:42,575
I don't know how --
I don't know how to do that.

621
00:45:42,642 --> 00:45:44,744
Who's 19?

622
00:45:44,811 --> 00:45:46,479
♪ ...smile from the past ♪

623
00:45:46,579 --> 00:45:50,450
♪ Elephants and acrobats,
lions, snakes, monkeys ♪

624
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:51,885
♪ Pele speaks "righteous" ♪

625
00:45:51,951 --> 00:45:53,620
♪ Sister Zina says "funky" ♪

626
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:56,389
♪ How bizarre ♪

627
00:45:56,456 --> 00:45:57,457
♪ How bizarre ♪

628
00:45:57,557 --> 00:45:58,792
♪ How bizarre ♪

629
00:45:58,892 --> 00:46:00,894
[ Laughing ]

630
00:46:02,228 --> 00:46:06,499
You know that Christo call it,
"Moscow4."

631
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:08,835
Uh, you know
what is Moscow4?

632
00:46:08,935 --> 00:46:11,171
Roher: No.
What is that?

633
00:46:11,271 --> 00:46:15,508
Well, the e-mail of the very
top-brass guy from intelligence

634
00:46:15,608 --> 00:46:17,811
was hacked several times

635
00:46:17,911 --> 00:46:21,948
and his first password
was Moscow1 and they hacked him.

636
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:25,919
So second his password
was Moscow2,

637
00:46:25,985 --> 00:46:28,880
and they hacked him as well.

638
00:46:28,154 --> 00:46:32,592
And so the third time,
he had passcode Moscow3.

639
00:46:32,659 --> 00:46:37,130
{\an8}And just guess what was
his fourth password.

640
00:46:38,980 --> 00:46:45,171
{\an8}So Moscow4 is the explanation
of the stupidity of the system.

641
00:46:45,271 --> 00:46:49,142
Dasha, you take my phone

642
00:46:49,209 --> 00:46:51,878
and you'll be in the kitchen

643
00:46:51,978 --> 00:46:53,813
pretending
you're General Bogdanov.

644
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,382
Grozev:
Could I see the...

645
00:46:55,482 --> 00:46:57,500
I have no idea.

646
00:46:57,150 --> 00:46:59,519
[ Line ringing ]

647
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,362
{\an8}[ Ringing continues ]

648
00:47:21,708 --> 00:47:24,744
Okay, well, super, super.

649
00:47:27,681 --> 00:47:30,830
Tomorrow we will
make these calls.

650
00:47:30,183 --> 00:47:33,253
Honestly, I don't think
it will work,

651
00:47:33,353 --> 00:47:35,321
because, well, FSB guys.

652
00:47:35,388 --> 00:47:38,591
They supposed to be
resistant to pranks.

653
00:47:38,692 --> 00:47:40,660
Uh, but Moscow4.

654
00:47:40,727 --> 00:47:42,162
Moscow4.

655
00:47:42,228 --> 00:47:45,398
Ah, yes, and then we arrange
to push the button

656
00:47:45,498 --> 00:47:49,569
and everything will be
published exactly at 12:00.

657
00:47:49,669 --> 00:47:51,771
And also,
I will publish my TikTok

658
00:47:51,871 --> 00:47:53,540
I recorded today.

659
00:47:55,542 --> 00:48:00,714
And we'll have a kind of 15
minutes of shame with it.

660
00:48:03,490 --> 00:48:05,418
Okay, see you tomorrow!

661
00:48:05,518 --> 00:48:13,593
{\an8}♪♪

662
00:48:13,693 --> 00:48:21,801
{\an8}♪♪

663
00:48:21,901 --> 00:48:28,375
{\an8}♪♪

664
00:48:28,441 --> 00:48:32,645
{\an8}♪♪

665
00:48:32,746 --> 00:48:35,148
Hello.

666
00:48:35,248 --> 00:48:41,321
{\an8}♪♪

667
00:48:41,421 --> 00:48:44,891
Now, I totally feel like
I am undercover agent

668
00:48:44,958 --> 00:48:46,626
with the wired up.

669
00:48:46,726 --> 00:48:48,294
Are you nervous?

670
00:48:48,395 --> 00:48:50,163
Sorry?

671
00:48:50,263 --> 00:48:52,332
No.

672
00:48:52,432 --> 00:48:53,566
A little bit.

673
00:48:53,633 --> 00:48:56,169
[ Line ringing ]

674
00:48:56,269 --> 00:49:04,778
{\an8}♪♪

675
00:49:04,844 --> 00:49:06,790
Vladimir: Hello.

676
00:49:25,865 --> 00:49:28,501
Grozev: He hung up.

677
00:49:28,601 --> 00:49:32,372
Oh, my God,
you ruined their day.

678
00:49:32,472 --> 00:49:34,541
Not just today, I guess.

679
00:49:36,643 --> 00:49:37,811
{\an8}[ Line ringing ]

680
00:49:37,877 --> 00:49:40,513
{\an8}Alexey: Hello.

681
00:50:02,135 --> 00:50:03,360
Hung up.

682
00:50:03,136 --> 00:50:04,838
Maybe try it
the prank way.

683
00:50:04,904 --> 00:50:06,473
Okay.

684
00:50:06,539 --> 00:50:10,243
{\an8}[ Line ringing ]

685
00:50:10,343 --> 00:50:11,511
{\an8}Mikhail: Hello.

686
00:51:01,928 --> 00:51:04,597
He hung up.

687
00:51:04,698 --> 00:51:07,634
That was
a freaking scared guy.

688
00:51:07,734 --> 00:51:09,369
He recognized your voice?

689
00:51:09,436 --> 00:51:10,770
Muscle is not stupid.

690
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:13,807
I really think a scientist
might talk to you.

691
00:51:13,907 --> 00:51:15,208
1% chance.

692
00:51:15,275 --> 00:51:17,744
Let's -- let's try to reach
some scientists.

693
00:51:17,811 --> 00:51:20,146
{\an8}Kudryavtsev's interesting.

694
00:51:21,581 --> 00:51:23,616
{\an8}[ Line ringing ]

695
00:51:38,980 --> 00:51:39,299
Konstantin: Hello.

696
00:56:50,210 --> 00:56:51,378
{\an8}Alexei: Mm-hmm.

697
00:57:06,292 --> 00:57:07,961
{\an8}Mm-hmm.

698
00:57:45,265 --> 00:57:47,200
Now we got everything, yes.

699
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:48,835
How could you do this?!
How could you do this?

700
00:57:48,935 --> 00:57:51,471
So, now we know
everything like...

701
00:57:51,538 --> 00:57:52,706
Moscow4.

702
00:57:52,806 --> 00:57:54,674
Oh, my ****ing God.

703
00:57:54,774 --> 00:57:56,420
Actually, he's not a muscle.

704
00:57:56,142 --> 00:57:58,311
He's a chemist.
He's a chemist.

705
00:57:58,378 --> 00:57:59,346
Yes.

706
00:57:59,446 --> 00:58:02,182
He spilled
the whole story.

707
00:58:02,282 --> 00:58:04,818
This is unbelievable.

708
00:58:04,884 --> 00:58:06,219
Poor guy.

709
00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:08,355
They will kill him.
They will kill him.

710
00:58:08,455 --> 00:58:09,723
They will kill him,
literally.

711
00:58:09,823 --> 00:58:13,493
I think you'll be president,
seriously, after this.

712
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,130
[ Laughter ]

713
00:58:17,197 --> 00:58:19,232
They will
definitely kill him.

714
00:58:19,332 --> 00:58:20,667
Poor Kudryavtsev.

715
00:58:20,734 --> 00:58:22,402
Poor Kudryavtsev, yes.

716
00:58:22,502 --> 00:58:23,503
[ Sighs ]

717
00:58:23,570 --> 00:58:25,905
Let's offer him
to defect.

718
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,474
Let's arrange for him
the whole thing.

719
00:58:27,540 --> 00:58:28,908
Seriously.

720
00:58:29,900 --> 00:58:32,579
'Cause I think that's
a humanitarian thing to do.

721
00:58:32,679 --> 00:58:35,148
He will be in a ditch
by tomorrow.

722
00:58:35,215 --> 00:58:36,583
They'll just kill him.

723
00:58:36,683 --> 00:58:38,510
They will kill him.
They will kill him.

724
00:58:38,151 --> 00:58:39,853
Okay, well, Spiegel
has been begging me

725
00:58:39,919 --> 00:58:41,354
to call them
since the morning.

726
00:58:41,421 --> 00:58:42,856
Can I tell them
this already?

727
00:58:42,922 --> 00:58:44,924
Confidentially?

728
00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:47,360
Are we going to publish
this conversation?

729
00:58:47,427 --> 00:58:48,595
Yeah.

730
00:58:48,695 --> 00:58:50,163
Because I think
we should wait for a --

731
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:52,432
Putin's press conference,
at the very least.

732
00:58:52,532 --> 00:58:53,867
Sorry?

733
00:58:53,933 --> 00:58:56,403
To Putin's press conference,
at the very least.

734
00:58:56,503 --> 00:58:58,710
It is on Wednesday
or Thursday?

735
00:58:58,171 --> 00:58:59,706
Thursday.

736
00:59:04,210 --> 00:59:12,786
{\an8}♪♪

737
00:59:12,886 --> 00:59:16,389
{\an8}♪♪

738
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:59,432
Christo, before
pushing this button,

739
00:59:59,499 --> 01:00:03,636
I want to say
that was amazing job.

740
01:00:03,737 --> 01:00:06,506
Thank you everyone
for your contribution, guys.

741
01:00:06,606 --> 01:00:08,174
[ Computer dings ]

742
01:00:08,274 --> 01:00:09,909
Yeah!

743
01:00:09,976 --> 01:00:11,745
High-five.

744
01:00:13,313 --> 01:00:15,348
Okay, good.

745
01:00:15,448 --> 01:00:17,183
Good, good, good, good.
Let's go.

746
01:00:17,283 --> 01:00:21,588
{\an8}♪♪

747
01:00:21,654 --> 01:00:24,524
Woman #7: Now an exclusive
investigation can reveal

748
01:00:24,624 --> 01:00:26,292
a top-secret mission...

749
01:00:26,359 --> 01:00:27,927
Ward: An elite team
of operatives

750
01:00:27,994 --> 01:00:30,530
{\an8}has been tracking
Navalny's every move

751
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:32,599
{\an8}for more than three years.

752
01:00:42,642 --> 01:00:44,344
Alexei:
Oh, thank you very much.

753
01:00:44,444 --> 01:00:47,881
It's an honor for me to be on
such a big television of Spain

754
01:00:47,981 --> 01:00:50,500
and I'm very pleased

755
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:51,818
that you are paying attention
to this situation.

756
01:00:51,885 --> 01:00:53,286
So, thank you very much.

757
01:00:53,353 --> 01:00:55,522
This scheme which looks like
it's from the movies,

758
01:00:55,622 --> 01:00:58,158
but in this particular case,
it's a real scheme

759
01:00:58,224 --> 01:00:59,225
with real people.

760
01:00:59,325 --> 01:01:01,394
Putin on the very top.

761
01:01:01,494 --> 01:01:05,231
Ward: In mid-August, Navalny and
his team traveled to Siberia.

762
01:01:05,331 --> 01:01:08,100
At least five members
of the FSB unit

763
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,171
make the same journey
on different flights.

764
01:01:11,237 --> 01:01:12,906
Well, they can't be
tailing him now,

765
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,376
but of course,
I'm sure they're trying to.

766
01:01:16,476 --> 01:01:18,478
Thank you.
Thank you very much.

767
01:01:20,380 --> 01:01:23,650
Back in Tomsk, there was a surge
in communications

768
01:01:23,717 --> 01:01:26,586
among the FSB unit
and their bosses.

769
01:01:26,686 --> 01:01:30,560
If it was expected that
Navalny would die on the flight,

770
01:01:30,156 --> 01:01:34,394
they were now scrambling to deal
with a very different situation.

771
01:01:34,494 --> 01:01:36,830
We enter a rundown
apartment building

772
01:01:36,896 --> 01:01:38,264
on the outskirts of Moscow

773
01:01:38,365 --> 01:01:41,670
{\an8}where operative
Oleg Tayakin lives.

774
01:01:44,904 --> 01:01:47,674
My name is Clarissa Ward.
I work for CNN.

775
01:01:47,741 --> 01:01:50,100
Can I ask you
a couple of questions?

776
01:01:55,949 --> 01:01:57,384
Was it your team that...

777
01:01:59,252 --> 01:02:02,122
So, you've said that you want
to go back to Russia?

778
01:02:02,222 --> 01:02:04,891
You're aware of the risks
of going back?

779
01:02:04,958 --> 01:02:07,627
-Definitely.
-Why do you want to go back?

780
01:02:07,727 --> 01:02:09,863
{\an8}I don't want these, you know,

781
01:02:09,929 --> 01:02:12,465
{\an8}group of killers exist
in Russia.

782
01:02:12,565 --> 01:02:14,734
{\an8}I don't want Putin
being president.

783
01:02:14,801 --> 01:02:16,970
{\an8}I don't want him
being czar of Russia.

784
01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:19,939
{\an8}I want to go back
and try to change it.

785
01:02:21,541 --> 01:02:24,770
Fantastic piece.
-Yeah.

786
01:02:28,581 --> 01:02:30,650
-The dream team.
-Absolutely.

787
01:02:30,750 --> 01:02:32,886
-Cheers.
-Cheers.

788
01:03:04,317 --> 01:03:07,354
"He opened his mouth
to American songs."

789
01:03:07,454 --> 01:03:09,122
Grozev: On TikTok.

790
01:03:19,799 --> 01:03:20,967
They are lying.

791
01:03:21,340 --> 01:03:23,803
Yeah, crazy stuff, huh?

792
01:03:23,870 --> 01:03:25,772
Crazy, funny stuff like...

793
01:03:25,839 --> 01:03:27,700
Who's he?

794
01:03:32,112 --> 01:03:33,213
But think about it,

795
01:03:33,313 --> 01:03:35,150
they're talking about this
all the time.

796
01:03:35,115 --> 01:03:36,383
They're talking
about you.

797
01:03:36,483 --> 01:03:38,785
In their version, "Ha-ha-ha,
this is very funny."

798
01:03:38,852 --> 01:03:41,855
But the main point is
they have a big problem.

799
01:03:41,955 --> 01:03:43,323
Otherwise they would
not launch it.

800
01:03:43,390 --> 01:03:44,524
Yep. Right, right, right.

801
01:03:44,624 --> 01:03:45,892
Because, well,
it's first channel.

802
01:03:45,992 --> 01:03:47,327
They allowed the state
number-one channel

803
01:03:47,394 --> 01:03:49,162
that has never mentioned
his name

804
01:03:49,229 --> 01:03:50,730
to only talk
about him now.

805
01:03:50,830 --> 01:03:52,899
Yes, you're absolutely right.
This is a main point.

806
01:03:52,999 --> 01:03:56,360
It's not affordable for them
to keep silence.

807
01:04:49,255 --> 01:04:51,240
[ Gunfire on video game ]

808
01:04:59,650 --> 01:05:01,101
[ Speaks indistinctly ]

809
01:05:01,201 --> 01:05:02,369
Mm-hmm.

810
01:05:07,774 --> 01:05:10,977
She plays chess...

811
01:05:11,770 --> 01:05:12,812
Better than all others
in our family.

812
01:05:12,912 --> 01:05:14,614
...better than everyone
in our family

813
01:05:14,714 --> 01:05:17,984
and because
of this series...

814
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,120
-Queen's Gambit.
-..."Queen's Gambit,"

815
01:05:20,220 --> 01:05:23,623
she's demanding that everyone
should play chess.

816
01:05:23,723 --> 01:05:24,891
But nobody is playing.

817
01:05:24,958 --> 01:05:26,659
That is why I'm playing
with the phone.

818
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,829
I definitely prefer
"Call of Duty."

819
01:05:29,929 --> 01:05:31,898
I definitely prefer chess.

820
01:05:33,333 --> 01:05:35,680
Dasha: I prefer shopping.

821
01:05:56,122 --> 01:06:05,198
{\an8}♪♪

822
01:06:05,298 --> 01:06:07,434
Ready for
a 12-hour flight.

823
01:06:10,637 --> 01:06:13,390
We have to sit down
for good luck.

824
01:06:16,309 --> 01:06:18,311
{\an8}Yes.

825
01:06:19,312 --> 01:06:27,721
{\an8}♪♪

826
01:06:27,821 --> 01:06:36,296
{\an8}♪♪

827
01:06:36,363 --> 01:06:38,640
{\an8}♪♪

828
01:06:38,164 --> 01:06:40,660
Starting from 13 years old,

829
01:06:40,166 --> 01:06:44,571
I would think about
what would I do...

830
01:06:44,671 --> 01:06:48,740
if my dad was killed?

831
01:06:48,174 --> 01:06:51,440
We never had, like,
the talk.

832
01:06:51,144 --> 01:06:53,747
You know, it's not --
it's not anything that you can,

833
01:06:53,847 --> 01:06:55,915
like, sit at the table
and discuss.

834
01:06:58,651 --> 01:07:01,321
Alexei: So, it's nice for you,
Dasha, to see the snow.

835
01:07:01,388 --> 01:07:04,924
So much snow
before you go to L.A., right?

836
01:07:05,250 --> 01:07:07,694
There is snow in California.

837
01:07:07,761 --> 01:07:11,898
There was a point a year ago,
where my dad

838
01:07:11,998 --> 01:07:15,535
was almost not there
for my high school graduation.

839
01:07:15,602 --> 01:07:20,173
He was in jail once again
and, like, the whole day,

840
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,277
I was just thinking about
how my dad would've been...

841
01:07:24,377 --> 01:07:25,779
I'm sorry.

842
01:07:25,879 --> 01:07:29,949
My dad would've been proud
to see me walk on the stage

843
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:31,951
and get my certificate.

844
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,622
And he wouldn't get that option,

845
01:07:35,722 --> 01:07:39,125
because he was in jail
for doing the right thing.

846
01:07:39,225 --> 01:07:46,990
{\an8}♪♪

847
01:07:46,199 --> 01:07:49,469
I know that my dad
misses Russia...

848
01:07:51,710 --> 01:07:53,640
...even though it's scary
to go back.

849
01:07:53,740 --> 01:07:58,712
{\an8}♪♪

850
01:07:58,778 --> 01:08:01,614
And if he didn't go back,

851
01:08:01,715 --> 01:08:04,651
I would say, "You need
to go back and fight."

852
01:08:04,751 --> 01:08:09,622
{\an8}♪♪

853
01:08:09,723 --> 01:08:11,424
It's something
worth fighting for.

854
01:08:11,491 --> 01:08:18,665
{\an8}♪♪

855
01:08:18,765 --> 01:08:27,700
{\an8}♪♪

856
01:08:27,107 --> 01:08:34,681
{\an8}♪♪

857
01:08:34,781 --> 01:08:37,417
{\an8}♪♪

858
01:08:52,465 --> 01:08:54,834
[ Camera shutters clicking ]

859
01:09:52,492 --> 01:09:55,195
His favorite, favorite
ultimate answer

860
01:09:55,261 --> 01:09:56,763
for everything is CIA.

861
01:10:26,893 --> 01:10:30,797
{\an8}Great, great, great,
great, great.

862
01:10:30,897 --> 01:10:32,265
Very good.
-Of course.

863
01:10:32,365 --> 01:10:37,270
Because this is just
amazing pass to us.

864
01:10:37,370 --> 01:10:38,805
Now we have a bull,

865
01:10:38,905 --> 01:10:42,809
because he said, like, "Well,
if we want to poison him,

866
01:10:42,909 --> 01:10:44,878
of course,
we would have poisoned him."

867
01:10:44,944 --> 01:10:48,314
So, just -- just --
just we will --

868
01:10:48,415 --> 01:10:51,618
I mean, the whole argumentation,
we will smash it.

869
01:10:51,718 --> 01:10:53,253
[ Speaks indistinctly ]

870
01:10:53,319 --> 01:10:59,592
{\an8}♪♪

871
01:11:11,938 --> 01:11:14,407
Pevchikh: I'm just very curious
how people will react to it,

872
01:11:14,474 --> 01:11:17,610
whether they will be as
astonished as we are, hopefully.

873
01:11:17,677 --> 01:11:21,247
'Cause nothing like that's
ever happened to anyone.

874
01:11:43,470 --> 01:11:46,473
Oh, that's totally unbelievable.

875
01:11:46,539 --> 01:11:49,843
I would never believe it
if I wasn't part of it.

876
01:11:50,977 --> 01:11:52,212
Three hundred...

877
01:11:54,714 --> 01:11:59,619
300,000 views for 20 minutes.

878
01:12:14,901 --> 01:12:15,969
One hour later,

879
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:17,871
1 million views.

880
01:12:17,971 --> 01:12:20,306
Bjork.

881
01:12:20,373 --> 01:12:23,760
Maria. Cool.

882
01:12:23,176 --> 01:12:25,345
{\an8}The poisoning of Russian
dissident Alexei Navalny

883
01:12:25,412 --> 01:12:27,714
{\an8}has taken
an even more bizarre turn.

884
01:12:27,814 --> 01:12:29,549
{\an8}Ward: If this was a Hollywood
movie, you would say

885
01:12:29,649 --> 01:12:31,418
{\an8}it was over the top,
but this is not.

886
01:12:31,518 --> 01:12:36,256
{\an8}This is real and, boy, does this
conversation punch a giant hole

887
01:12:36,356 --> 01:12:37,691
{\an8}in the Kremlin's narrative.

888
01:12:37,757 --> 01:12:40,427
{\an8}Surely, this is hugely
embarrassing for the Kremlin

889
01:12:40,527 --> 01:12:41,594
{\an8}and for the FSB.

890
01:12:41,695 --> 01:12:42,929
{\an8}Oh, absolutely.

891
01:12:43,290 --> 01:12:44,764
{\an8}It's embarrassing
for Mr. Kudryavtsev.

892
01:12:44,864 --> 01:12:46,866
{\an8}It's embarrassing for the FSB.

893
01:12:46,933 --> 01:12:49,436
{\an8}It's embarrassing
for the Kremlin.

894
01:12:49,536 --> 01:12:52,839
Woman #8: The FSB has said that
the video of the conversation

895
01:12:55,575 --> 01:12:57,577
aimed at discrediting
the agency.

896
01:12:57,677 --> 01:13:01,581
{\an8}Interpreter:
Navalny is suffering from
delusion of persecution.

897
01:13:01,681 --> 01:13:05,218
Otherwise, there's a Freudian
fixation on his own crotch area.

898
01:13:05,318 --> 01:13:08,540
This is probably how
all this should be treated.

899
01:13:08,154 --> 01:13:15,261
{\an8}♪♪

900
01:13:33,179 --> 01:13:35,582
Roher:
How is President Navalny

901
01:13:35,682 --> 01:13:38,284
different
from President Putin?

902
01:13:38,385 --> 01:13:43,423
Well, my major task
as a president just to prevent,

903
01:13:43,523 --> 01:13:45,558
you know,
this damn circle

904
01:13:45,625 --> 01:13:49,396
of re-establish
of authoritarian regime.

905
01:13:51,898 --> 01:13:53,633
In authoritarian country,

906
01:13:53,733 --> 01:13:55,635
you are pro-authoritarian leader

907
01:13:55,735 --> 01:13:58,872
or you're against
authoritarian leader.

908
01:13:58,938 --> 01:14:03,576
So, we are in more primitive
politics like human rights,

909
01:14:03,643 --> 01:14:06,212
freedom of speech,
fair election.

910
01:14:06,279 --> 01:14:09,749
{\an8}♪♪

911
01:14:09,816 --> 01:14:12,752
The power and money,
tax money --

912
01:14:12,819 --> 01:14:15,288
they supposed to belong
to the local communities.

913
01:14:15,388 --> 01:14:18,158
And in Russia,
everything decided in Moscow.

914
01:14:18,258 --> 01:14:20,927
So, being a president
and just having this,

915
01:14:20,994 --> 01:14:24,297
you know,
big pie of my power

916
01:14:24,397 --> 01:14:27,801
and I will cut it
for the future of Russia.

917
01:14:27,901 --> 01:14:33,600
{\an8}♪♪

918
01:14:33,106 --> 01:14:38,411
{\an8}♪♪

919
01:15:01,468 --> 01:15:08,441
{\an8}♪♪

920
01:15:08,508 --> 01:15:16,516
{\an8}♪♪

921
01:15:16,616 --> 01:15:23,690
{\an8}♪♪

922
01:15:23,790 --> 01:15:32,320
{\an8}♪♪

923
01:15:32,132 --> 01:15:35,969
{\an8}♪♪

924
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,239
[ Indistinct conversations
in Russian ]

925
01:15:39,339 --> 01:15:47,414
{\an8}♪♪

926
01:15:47,514 --> 01:15:55,755
{\an8}♪♪

927
01:15:55,855 --> 01:16:00,930
{\an8}♪♪

928
01:16:00,193 --> 01:16:04,497
{\an8}♪♪

929
01:16:21,381 --> 01:16:23,950
I apologize.
I am sorry for the record.

930
01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:25,618
But just five minutes ago,

931
01:16:25,719 --> 01:16:29,255
I told Daniel to get the ****
out of here with his camera,

932
01:16:29,356 --> 01:16:32,625
so, like, I apologize for that,

933
01:16:32,726 --> 01:16:34,728
because, well, it's --

934
01:16:34,794 --> 01:16:36,629
Everything is, like --

935
01:16:36,730 --> 01:16:39,199
Everything is happening
in the last 10 minutes,

936
01:16:39,265 --> 01:16:42,535
and I have to make, like,
a millions of e-mails.

937
01:16:42,602 --> 01:16:45,872
And, Leonid, have a seat.
Maria, have a seat.

938
01:16:45,939 --> 01:16:48,608
You make me nervous because
you're standing over me, sorry.

939
01:17:03,890 --> 01:17:04,891
Ha ha ha ha.

940
01:17:19,239 --> 01:17:20,640
Sorry, I have to sit.

941
01:17:20,740 --> 01:17:23,443
It's a Russian superstition,
but it's important.

942
01:17:42,595 --> 01:17:48,635
{\an8}♪♪

943
01:17:48,702 --> 01:17:54,841
{\an8}♪♪

944
01:17:56,443 --> 01:18:03,983
{\an8}♪♪

945
01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:10,390
{\an8}♪♪

946
01:18:10,490 --> 01:18:18,898
{\an8}♪♪

947
01:19:05,211 --> 01:19:09,716
{\an8}♪♪

948
01:19:41,581 --> 01:19:50,924
{\an8}♪♪

949
01:20:05,905 --> 01:20:10,577
{\an8}♪♪

950
01:20:40,707 --> 01:20:42,800
{\an8}[ Screaming ]

951
01:20:46,279 --> 01:20:52,118
{\an8}♪♪

952
01:20:58,792 --> 01:21:00,560
Grozev:
The anti-riot police

953
01:21:00,660 --> 01:21:01,861
just started arresting
everybody,

954
01:21:01,961 --> 01:21:04,397
including journalists,
live on the air.

955
01:21:04,497 --> 01:21:06,332
This is crazy.

956
01:21:06,399 --> 01:21:09,736
Jesus. Jesus.

957
01:21:09,836 --> 01:21:11,705
I've never seen anything
like this.

958
01:21:11,805 --> 01:21:13,473
[ Screaming ]

959
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,214
There's no way they're not
going to arrest him.

960
01:21:21,314 --> 01:21:22,849
I don't think
that they will let him

961
01:21:22,916 --> 01:21:24,718
come to the front.

962
01:21:24,818 --> 01:21:26,219
I think they're going to
yank him away

963
01:21:26,319 --> 01:21:29,589
before anybody else
is let off the plane.

964
01:21:37,864 --> 01:21:46,272
{\an8}♪♪

965
01:21:46,373 --> 01:21:53,413
{\an8}♪♪

966
01:21:53,513 --> 01:21:57,617
{\an8}♪♪

967
01:22:03,957 --> 01:22:07,527
This is the plane
and this is Moscow.

968
01:22:07,594 --> 01:22:10,864
And this is the plane,
and this is Moscow.

969
01:22:29,416 --> 01:22:31,785
[ Captain speaks indistinctly ]

970
01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:37,924
{\an8}[ Laughter ]

971
01:22:39,759 --> 01:22:46,660
{\an8}♪♪

972
01:22:57,110 --> 01:22:59,646
It's a hot potato,
really.

973
01:22:59,746 --> 01:23:01,448
They're realized
that it's not possible

974
01:23:01,514 --> 01:23:03,116
to control the crowd,

975
01:23:03,183 --> 01:23:05,352
and they chickened out.

976
01:23:05,452 --> 01:23:08,788
{\an8}♪♪

977
01:23:13,493 --> 01:23:18,698
{\an8}♪♪

978
01:23:18,798 --> 01:23:21,835
[ Horn honking ]

979
01:23:21,935 --> 01:23:24,300
[ Honking continues ]

980
01:23:24,104 --> 01:23:31,440
{\an8}♪♪

981
01:23:31,144 --> 01:23:32,979
{\an8}♪♪

982
01:23:37,317 --> 01:23:43,523
{\an8}♪♪

983
01:23:43,623 --> 01:23:51,531
{\an8}♪♪

984
01:23:51,631 --> 01:23:59,339
{\an8}♪♪

985
01:23:59,406 --> 01:24:08,480
{\an8}♪♪

986
01:24:08,148 --> 01:24:09,315
{\an8}♪♪

987
01:24:18,992 --> 01:24:25,265
{\an8}♪♪

988
01:24:25,365 --> 01:24:32,720
{\an8}♪♪

989
01:24:32,172 --> 01:24:34,874
{\an8}♪♪

990
01:24:34,941 --> 01:24:38,445
{\an8}[ Speaking Russian ]

991
01:24:38,545 --> 01:24:43,950
{\an8}♪♪

992
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:49,689
{\an8}♪♪

993
01:27:08,995 --> 01:27:16,369
{\an8}♪♪

994
01:27:16,436 --> 01:27:24,277
{\an8}♪♪

995
01:27:24,377 --> 01:27:32,519
{\an8}♪♪

996
01:27:32,585 --> 01:27:41,261
{\an8}♪♪

997
01:27:41,361 --> 01:27:49,969
{\an8}♪♪

998
01:27:50,700 --> 01:27:58,545
{\an8}♪♪

999
01:27:58,611 --> 01:28:06,720
{\an8}♪♪

1000
01:28:06,786 --> 01:28:12,959
{\an8}♪♪

1001
01:28:19,933 --> 01:28:22,836
{\an8}♪♪

1002
01:28:22,936 --> 01:28:25,572
[ Crowd chanting "Yulia" ]

1003
01:28:25,638 --> 01:28:32,746
{\an8}♪♪

1004
01:28:32,812 --> 01:28:37,150
{\an8}♪♪

1005
01:29:01,174 --> 01:29:04,878
Man #12: Yulia! Yulia!

1006
01:29:04,978 --> 01:29:13,530
{\an8}♪♪

1007
01:29:13,153 --> 01:29:22,620
{\an8}♪♪

1008
01:29:22,162 --> 01:29:30,904
{\an8}♪♪

1009
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:37,877
{\an8}♪♪

1010
01:29:37,977 --> 01:29:45,719
{\an8}♪♪

1011
01:29:45,819 --> 01:29:52,258
{\an8}♪♪

1012
01:29:52,359 --> 01:29:54,828
[ Crowds chanting in Russian ]

1013
01:29:54,894 --> 01:30:01,334
{\an8}♪♪

1014
01:30:01,401 --> 01:30:09,342
{\an8}♪♪

1015
01:30:09,409 --> 01:30:13,130
{\an8}♪♪

1016
01:30:16,490 --> 01:30:23,890
{\an8}♪♪

1017
01:30:23,189 --> 01:30:30,730
{\an8}♪♪

1018
01:30:30,797 --> 01:30:37,637
{\an8}♪♪

1019
01:30:37,737 --> 01:30:46,613
{\an8}♪♪

1020
01:30:46,713 --> 01:30:53,153
{\an8}♪♪

1021
01:30:53,253 --> 01:31:01,461
{\an8}♪♪

1022
01:31:01,561 --> 01:31:10,136
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1023
01:31:10,236 --> 01:31:18,110
{\an8}♪♪

1024
01:31:18,111 --> 01:31:24,818
{\an8}♪♪

1025
01:31:29,122 --> 01:31:32,792
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1026
01:31:35,161 --> 01:31:42,535
{\an8}♪♪

1027
01:31:42,635 --> 01:31:50,430
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1028
01:31:50,143 --> 01:31:57,550
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1029
01:31:57,650 --> 01:32:04,557
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1030
01:32:04,657 --> 01:32:11,731
{\an8}♪♪

1031
01:32:11,831 --> 01:32:20,400
{\an8}♪♪

1032
01:32:20,140 --> 01:32:22,909
[ Man yelling in Russian ]

1033
01:32:29,582 --> 01:32:31,584
[ Crowd chanting in Russian ]

1034
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:47,734
{\an8}♪♪

1035
01:32:47,834 --> 01:32:55,542
{\an8}♪♪

1036
01:32:55,608 --> 01:33:02,415
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1037
01:33:02,515 --> 01:33:10,900
{\an8}♪♪

1038
01:33:10,190 --> 01:33:17,731
{\an8}♪♪

1039
01:33:17,797 --> 01:33:24,437
{\an8}♪♪

1040
01:33:24,537 --> 01:33:31,745
{\an8}♪♪

1041
01:33:31,811 --> 01:33:38,485
{\an8}♪♪

1042
01:33:38,585 --> 01:33:46,659
{\an8}♪♪

1043
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,829
{\an8}♪♪

1044
01:33:49,929 --> 01:33:52,165
Roher:
Alexei, if you are arrested

1045
01:33:52,265 --> 01:33:53,500
and thrown in prison

1046
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,136
or the unthinkable happens
and you're killed,

1047
01:33:56,236 --> 01:33:57,670
what message
do you leave behind

1048
01:33:57,771 --> 01:33:59,139
to the Russian people?

1049
01:34:02,842 --> 01:34:05,578
My message,

1050
01:34:05,645 --> 01:34:10,160
for the situation
when I am killed

1051
01:34:10,116 --> 01:34:12,686
is very simple -- not give up.

1052
01:34:12,786 --> 01:34:15,622
Do me a favor,
answer this one in Russian.

1053
01:34:17,757 --> 01:34:19,192
Um...

1054
01:35:03,370 --> 01:35:10,710
{\an8}♪♪

1055
01:35:10,810 --> 01:35:19,219
{\an8}♪♪

1056
01:35:19,319 --> 01:35:26,192
{\an8}♪♪

1057
01:35:26,259 --> 01:35:32,599
{\an8}♪♪

1058
01:35:32,699 --> 01:35:39,105
{\an8}♪♪

1059
01:35:39,205 --> 01:35:45,578
{\an8}♪♪

1060
01:35:45,679 --> 01:35:51,951
{\an8}♪♪

1061
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:58,458
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1062
01:35:58,558 --> 01:36:04,931
{\an8}♪♪

1063
01:36:05,310 --> 01:36:11,404
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1064
01:36:11,471 --> 01:36:17,811
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1065
01:36:17,911 --> 01:36:24,317
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1066
01:36:24,417 --> 01:36:30,790
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1067
01:36:30,890 --> 01:36:37,263
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1068
01:36:37,330 --> 01:36:43,670
{\an8}♪♪

1069
01:36:43,770 --> 01:36:50,143
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1070
01:36:50,243 --> 01:36:56,616
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1071
01:36:56,683 --> 01:37:03,230
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1072
01:37:03,123 --> 01:37:09,529
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1073
01:37:09,629 --> 01:37:16,200
{\an8}♪♪

1074
01:37:16,102 --> 01:37:22,475
{\an8}♪♪

1075
01:37:22,542 --> 01:37:28,882
{\an8}♪♪

1076
01:37:28,982 --> 01:37:35,355
{\an8}♪♪

1077
01:37:35,455 --> 01:37:41,828
{\an8}♪♪

1078
01:37:41,895 --> 01:37:48,234
{\an8}♪♪

1079
01:37:48,334 --> 01:37:54,841
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