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light piano music]

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door creaks]

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door clicks shut]

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Hey Siri, send a
message to Cheryl.

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Front reception.

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Siri] What do you want to say?

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Amos is already heading
there to pick him up, period.

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Please forward any calls
I get to Brady, period.

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Siri] Your message to
Cheryl front reception

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says Amos is already heading
there to pick him up.

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Please forward any calls
I get to Brady.

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Ready to send it?

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Yes.

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Siri] Okay, it's sent.

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Hey, Siri,

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how do you know if you're
doing the right thing?

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Siri] I'm not sure
I understand.

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But what do you believe

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is the difference between
right and wrong?

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Siri] Hmm.

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I don't have an answer for that.

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Would you like me to
search the web?

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No.

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Siri] Okay, is there
something else I can help with?

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Set a reminder to pick up Kyle

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from therapy tomorrow at 4:45.

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Siri] Okay, I'll remind you.

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door creaks]

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Hi, special agent Deena Helms.

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You've already met
Agent McCullough.

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You can call me Amos.

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-Uh, agents?
-Have a seat for us, Gareth.

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Do you mind answering a
couple questions?

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Great, this shouldn't take long.

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You're from Tampa, right?

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Don't overthink it.
It's a yes or no.

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Yeah.

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How old are you, Gareth?

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29.

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What do you do for work?

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I'm sorry, am I being detained?

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No, not at all.

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We're just asking
questions, background stuff.

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You work on movies, right?

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Special effects.

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Someone told me you worked

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on that new "Star Wars"
movie, is that right?

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Gareth] Who told you that?

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Why don't you tell us
more about it?

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Tell us about your work.

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I used to do VFX for an
animation company.

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I've worked on at least
20 different films.

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Used to?

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I've been focusing more

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on software engineering
recently for years-

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Sounds boring compared
to light sabers.

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Why quit?

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Gareth] I wasn't
getting paid well.

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But money's not an
issue for you.

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Excuse me?

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Deena] What kind of
effects did you do?

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Money's not an issue for me?

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-Let's talk about-
-If money wasn't an issue for me

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I wouldn't have applied
for your grant.

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I didn't mean to
suggest anything.

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Tell us what kind of
effects you did.

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My main focus was on
3D renderings.

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Deena] Of what?

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-Actors.
-What for?

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Well, for "Star Wars,"

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it was because the actor
I was tasked to digitize

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was unavailable to be
filmed in person.

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Why?

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Because they were dead.

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What'd they have you do?

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I reconstructed Alec
Guinness' face as a 3D model.

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I analyzed reference footage,

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then used a process called
D-Term to procedurally generate

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his bone and muscle structures,

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which one rigged helped
the animation feel

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more natural and human-like.

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D-Term, I've never heard
of that process before.

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Because I invented it.

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Deena] So you're
basically bringing

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dead actors back to life?

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I just tried to make
the CG characters look as

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photorealistic as the technology
at the time would allow.

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Deena] You didn't
find it creepy?

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I'm sorry, what?

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I said you don't find
that creepy?

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Well, we did our best to
cross the uncanny valley.

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But when the human
brain perceives

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that something is just slightly
off and it doesn't matter-

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No, I mean,
digitizing dead people.

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Christ, I mean, it's,

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it's almost like turning
someone's corpse

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into a marionette, you know?

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Making them do
whatever you want.

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What if the poor dead guy

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didn't want to be in
another ****ing movie?

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It's so macabre.

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Am I crazy? Is it not macabre?

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I don't think the studio cares

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whether it's macabre or not.

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Look, I can never tell
the difference.

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I always can.
The faces look like Play-Doh.

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Well, we did our best.

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Soon we won't even need actors,
right?

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Everyone will just be digital.

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No, you still need them
for motion tracking.

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Human performances can't be
completely computer generated.

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How long will that be true?

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Some might say we've already
crossed that threshold.

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I wouldn't know.

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Where'd you go to school?

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-Brooks-DeBartolo High.
-And after?

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Nothing?

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What about Columbia?

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Didn't you go to Columbia?

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Wait, no.
You dropped out of Columbia

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after how many semesters?

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Three?

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Bjarne Stroustrup said

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you were the smartest
kid he ever met.

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I don't know who he is, but
Amos says it's a big deal.

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Then you moved to the
Netherlands,

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spent some time as an intern,

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applied and got into Cambridge.

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Very nice.

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Except that you dropped
out after two years.

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Flew back to the States,

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interned in Palo Alto,
then Montreal.

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Then went all the way
back to England,

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where you landed a job
in Sheffield.

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Second job in Manchester.

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Then got into Oxford where you
almost finished your masters

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before ditching the graduation

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and moving back here to Florida.

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If money was an issue,

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I'm glad you had plenty
of flyer miles.

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I didn't hear a question.

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What's your social life like?

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My, what does that have
anything to do-

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If you don't want to talk
about it, that's fine.

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We just wanted to know if
you have friends and stuff.

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-I have friends.
-A lot of them?

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-I have friends.
-Can you name one?

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-Can I what?
-[Deena] Can you tell us the nam

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of just one of your friends?

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-Steve.
-[Deena] Steve. Steve what?

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I don't know how this is
relevant to receiving the grant.

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Oh, we're just getting
to know you, Gareth.

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You got a girlfriend?

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I don't know what you
mean by that.

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I don't use social media.

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I mean more like chat rooms.

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You go on any chat rooms?

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No one uses chat rooms anymore.

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Deena] Sure they do.

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You chat with anyone online?

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-Sometimes.
-[Deena] Sometimes.

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What kinds of people
do you talk to online?

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Gareth, obviously, this
isn't about a grant.

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We need to know
what your alias is.

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When you go online, what
name do you use?

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I don't have one.

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Deena] Yes, you do.

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And you need to tell
us what it is.

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Sorry, I can't help you.

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Deena] You know who we are?

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Well, this is the ICWL building.

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That's right.
You know what we do?

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Gareth] Humanitarian work.

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That's what the
people upstairs do.

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You know what we do?

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We catch pedophiles.

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Amos here specializes in
tracking down online predators.

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He spends every waking hour

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scouring those chat
rooms you say no one uses

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and he finds thousands of
people soliciting children.

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Our operation is like a
tightly spun spider web

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connecting ICWL, the FBI, NSA,

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and let me tell you, his
team here is a vital thread.

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He reports everything he
gathers directly to me,

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and I see to it that the
necessary authorities

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take swift action.

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So are you in charge?

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This is my spiderweb.

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I'm the ****ing spider, Gareth.

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Am I being detained?

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Deena] We already told you
that you're not detained.

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Good. [chair scrapes]

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But if you leave this
room, you will be arrested.

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Gareth] For what?

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I told you what we do.

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Take a wild guess.

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Gareth] I am not what
you think I am.

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We'll see.

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Gareth, you just gotta
tell us your alias.

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What's your username?

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Sit down.

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-Why do you do this with them?
-[Deena] Hmm?

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There's no way you do this
with every suspect you have.

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Invite them to your headquarters

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and then drag them down
into a basement.

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Deena] That's right.

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Why are you doing
this to me then?

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You tell us, Gare.

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What makes you so ****in'
special?

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I don't know.

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What's your alias?

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-I don't have an alias.
-Yes you do.

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It starts with the word hard.

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Just finish the rest.

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Sit down, Mr. Federson.

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I only have a few
more questions.

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Do you recognize this girl?

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Do you know her?

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Yes.

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Deena] What's her name?

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Cherry.

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-[Deena] Cherry what?
-She doesn't have a last name.

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Yes, she does, Gareth,
she's not Madonna.

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-She's a little girl.
-You don't understand.

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Yeah, well, I'd like to.

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So help me out, is she
your daughter?

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-No.
-Then whose daughter is she?

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-She, she doesn't have--
-How did you meet her?

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I didn't meet her.

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Then why do you have photos
of her on your computer?

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What the hell are you
talking about?

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Why do you ****ing have photos

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of this girl on your ****ing-

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Are you looking at
my hard drive?

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Because that's an
invasion of privacy.

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So you know what photos
I'm talking about?

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You don't have to do
it this way.

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I gave you permission to sit in.

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I did not give you
permission to speak.

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Gareth] This is insane,
you cannot keep-

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What else have you
done with her?

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-[Gareth] Nothing!
-Did you take the photos?

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It's, it's complicated.

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Deena] No, it's not! Yes or no?

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Did you take the photos?

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I didn't do anything wrong,
okay?

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What is your alias?

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Answer me!

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HardMachine11811.

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Gareth exhales]

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You're HardMachine.

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Thanks for confirming.

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If you knew, then why
do this to me?

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Deena] We weren't positive,

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and if you turned out
to not be HardMachine,

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you were obviously
just a predator.

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Do you keep track?

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I mean, do you know how many
bad people you've nailed?

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Gareth] I didn't start
counting until 2023.

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196 convictions.

261
00:12:10,563 --> 00:12:11,564
Gareth] There were at least 30

262
00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:13,500
before I started sending
everything to you guys.

263
00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:14,768
What'd you do before?

264
00:12:14,768 --> 00:12:15,635
Gareth] I turned over

265
00:12:15,635 --> 00:12:17,103
all evidence directly
to the police.

266
00:12:17,103 --> 00:12:18,271
Deena] Why'd you stop?

267
00:12:18,271 --> 00:12:20,140
They were unreliable.

268
00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:21,675
-I doubt that.
-More than half of the predators

269
00:12:21,675 --> 00:12:23,176
I identified went
un-investigated.

270
00:12:23,176 --> 00:12:24,678
Yeah, well, you were
sketchy and faceless.

271
00:12:24,678 --> 00:12:27,800
They had every right to
be skeptical.

272
00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:28,248
It would've all been for nothing

273
00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:30,830
if they found out you were
using a little girl as bait.

274
00:12:30,830 --> 00:12:31,170
It's not that simple, okay?

275
00:12:31,170 --> 00:12:33,753
I can only do what I do
with anonymity.

276
00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:35,755
Here's my problem, Gareth,
and don't get me wrong.

277
00:12:35,755 --> 00:12:37,557
I think 200 terrible
people behind bars

278
00:12:37,557 --> 00:12:40,560
is a very good thing,
but not at her expense.

279
00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:42,696
Look, we think we can help you,

280
00:12:42,696 --> 00:12:44,297
but we need to help her too.

281
00:12:44,297 --> 00:12:47,534
Using your daughter to
entrap these people

282
00:12:47,534 --> 00:12:48,635
is a means that does not
justify the ends.

283
00:12:48,635 --> 00:12:49,703
She's not my daughter.

284
00:12:49,703 --> 00:12:50,770
And in spite of what you
may think you've achieved,

285
00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,605
I still have no reservation
with locking you up.

286
00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:54,140
You took the photos.

287
00:12:54,140 --> 00:12:55,308
I don't care why.

288
00:12:55,308 --> 00:12:57,143
You don't understand.

289
00:12:57,143 --> 00:12:58,244
Who is she?

290
00:12:58,244 --> 00:12:59,779
You're gonna ruin everything.

291
00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:03,550
She's a child, Gareth,
look at me.

292
00:13:04,384 --> 00:13:07,787
I don't give a damn what
****ed up anti-hero master plan

293
00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:09,422
of yours I might jeopardize.

294
00:13:09,422 --> 00:13:11,157
I won't let her be exploited.

295
00:13:11,157 --> 00:13:13,727
Not even for the sake of
locking up more perverts.

296
00:13:14,361 --> 00:13:17,397
I'm asking you politely
to let this one go.

297
00:13:17,397 --> 00:13:19,650
Are you ****ing slow?

298
00:13:19,650 --> 00:13:19,966
Have you been listening at all?

299
00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:22,635
My anonymity is my most
important asset.

300
00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:24,371
Without that, I can't
do what I do.

301
00:13:24,371 --> 00:13:27,400
Well, that makes
everything easy then.

302
00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,642
You tell us where she is,
or we leak everything.

303
00:13:29,642 --> 00:13:31,277
-Your name, your aliases.
-Deena!

304
00:13:31,277 --> 00:13:33,346
Every single perp you
helped us catch.

305
00:13:33,346 --> 00:13:35,281
I'm sure they'll be very
pleased to meet you in jail.

306
00:13:35,281 --> 00:13:36,449
Stop!

307
00:13:36,449 --> 00:13:38,218
Okay.

308
00:13:40,787 --> 00:13:42,722
Look, if I tell you
about Cherry, okay,

309
00:13:42,722 --> 00:13:45,191
there's some things I'm
gonna need first.

310
00:13:45,392 --> 00:13:47,327
It doesn't really work like
that, Gareth, but go ahead.

311
00:13:47,327 --> 00:13:48,561
Give us your wishlist.

312
00:13:48,561 --> 00:13:50,430
I need a signed non-disclosure
agreement from both of you.

313
00:13:50,430 --> 00:13:51,664
-Not gonna happen.
-And then I need you to swear

314
00:13:51,664 --> 00:13:52,799
that the information I'm
about to relay

315
00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:54,300
won't leave this room.

316
00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:55,602
Look, if you tell us anything

317
00:13:55,602 --> 00:13:56,736
that could help us
locate Cherry,

318
00:13:56,736 --> 00:13:59,606
you know we can't keep
that promise.

319
00:14:00,407 --> 00:14:02,108
Okay, if I tell you anything

320
00:14:02,108 --> 00:14:04,744
that potentially helps
you find a missing child,

321
00:14:04,744 --> 00:14:05,779
okay, you can feel free
to share that.

322
00:14:05,779 --> 00:14:06,746
But I need you to swear

323
00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:10,517
that any other details
about myself or Cherry,

324
00:14:10,884 --> 00:14:13,253
have to stay between
the three of us.

325
00:14:14,454 --> 00:14:16,289
Is that it?

326
00:14:17,691 --> 00:14:19,726
And I need that camera
switched off.

327
00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:22,162
Deena] I don't know
how to do that.

328
00:14:22,162 --> 00:14:23,396
Go to the head of
securities office,

329
00:14:23,396 --> 00:14:25,799
ask him to find this camera
in the system and disable it.

330
00:14:25,799 --> 00:14:28,101
I don't think he's
allowed to do that.

331
00:14:28,501 --> 00:14:30,637
I thought you were the
****ing spider?

332
00:14:34,307 --> 00:14:35,642
Give me a reason, Gareth.

333
00:14:35,642 --> 00:14:36,776
Why should I go through
all the trouble

334
00:14:36,776 --> 00:14:39,112
of getting that
camera turned off?

335
00:14:39,813 --> 00:14:42,782
Because if anybody finds out
what I'm about to tell you,

336
00:14:43,717 --> 00:14:46,586
a thousand more children
are gonna get abused.

337
00:14:49,622 --> 00:14:51,458
Give me a minute.

338
00:14:57,364 --> 00:14:58,798
door clicks shut]

339
00:15:06,172 --> 00:15:12,479
So, uh, you and Cherry hunted
all those people together?

340
00:15:18,952 --> 00:15:21,955
This one time I spent six
weeks undercover trying

341
00:15:21,955 --> 00:15:25,325
to nail down a single
trafficker from the Philippines.

342
00:15:26,226 --> 00:15:27,360
Day after day,

343
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,730
I spent hour after hour
following his trail online.

344
00:15:30,730 --> 00:15:31,865
And he must have been

345
00:15:31,865 --> 00:15:35,135
one of the hardest targets
I ever had to track down.

346
00:15:36,970 --> 00:15:42,375
Then one day I found him and
one of Cherry's live streams.

347
00:15:42,375 --> 00:15:44,277
I mean, she went by a
different name in the stream,

348
00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:46,680
but it was her.

349
00:15:47,213 --> 00:15:48,348
The trafficker,

350
00:15:48,348 --> 00:15:49,616
along with three of our
other targets

351
00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:51,651
were all in the room together.

352
00:15:51,651 --> 00:15:58,258
All of them just carelessly
sharing their information.

353
00:15:58,792 --> 00:16:03,830
I mean, and they were so open
'cause she was a real girl.

354
00:16:03,830 --> 00:16:05,598
I mean, she could physically

355
00:16:05,598 --> 00:16:08,735
and verbally respond to
them in real time.

356
00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:17,243
A couple days later,
HardMachine11811 sends ICWL

357
00:16:17,243 --> 00:16:18,912
another batch of names
and evidence,

358
00:16:18,912 --> 00:16:23,183
including the three targets
that were in the room.

359
00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:27,721
You know, I almost thought
the girl was HardMachine

360
00:16:27,721 --> 00:16:29,489
and that this nine year old

361
00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:33,727
just happened to be some
bad*** online vigilante.

362
00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:37,430
What changed your mind?

363
00:16:39,933 --> 00:16:42,469
11811.

364
00:16:42,769 --> 00:16:46,439
January 18th, 2011.

365
00:16:46,439 --> 00:16:51,311
Most of my team thought it
was, uh, some arbitrary number,

366
00:16:51,711 --> 00:16:56,282
but I remember what happened
on that day in Clearwater.

367
00:16:58,318 --> 00:17:01,221
You were one of the
Clearwater kids, weren't you?

368
00:17:01,788 --> 00:17:04,824
You know, my father was
a part of that raid.

369
00:17:04,824 --> 00:17:07,560
door opens]

370
00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:08,628
Deena] It's off, see?

371
00:17:08,628 --> 00:17:10,300
No red light.

372
00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:10,897
Non-disclosure agreements?

373
00:17:10,897 --> 00:17:11,998
We're not playing this game,
Gareth.

374
00:17:11,998 --> 00:17:15,100
You're just gonna have to
suck it up and trust us.

375
00:17:18,705 --> 00:17:21,374
You can trust us.

376
00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:24,911
I've been told I have
trust issues.

377
00:17:24,911 --> 00:17:27,781
Deena] Well, there's
only one way to fix that.

378
00:17:35,655 --> 00:17:38,458
The reason you can't
find Cherry,

379
00:17:38,458 --> 00:17:41,594
the reason why she doesn't
have a last name or parents,

380
00:17:41,594 --> 00:17:47,367
or a social security number
is because she's not real.

381
00:17:48,468 --> 00:17:50,670
She's not a real human being.

382
00:17:53,807 --> 00:17:55,809
Tell us what happened.

383
00:17:59,379 --> 00:18:00,880
While I was studying abroad,

384
00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,616
I interned at a small
Dutch animation studio

385
00:18:03,616 --> 00:18:04,984
a few years before
they collaborated

386
00:18:04,984 --> 00:18:07,520
with a local nonprofit on
a similar idea.

387
00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,550
Deena] Which was?

388
00:18:09,556 --> 00:18:11,124
The idea was to build a 3D model

389
00:18:11,124 --> 00:18:12,992
of an 11 year old Filipino girl

390
00:18:12,992 --> 00:18:15,929
and use her covertly to
identify online predators,

391
00:18:15,929 --> 00:18:18,898
A technological solution
to a technological problem.

392
00:18:18,898 --> 00:18:20,767
But the project was suspended
after only a few months.

393
00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:21,668
Yeah, I remember.

394
00:18:21,668 --> 00:18:23,703
I remember hearing
about that program.

395
00:18:23,703 --> 00:18:25,705
Is that what inspired you?

396
00:18:25,805 --> 00:18:27,730
As I got better at crafting
photorealistic faces,

397
00:18:27,730 --> 00:18:28,708
I decided to work on one myself.

398
00:18:28,708 --> 00:18:30,510
Deena] Why?

399
00:18:30,510 --> 00:18:32,912
It was too effective
of an idea to let die.

400
00:18:32,912 --> 00:18:35,382
Hundreds of thousands
of children are at risk.

401
00:18:35,382 --> 00:18:36,416
I had to make her.

402
00:18:36,416 --> 00:18:37,717
Who is she modeled after?

403
00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:38,818
Gareth] No one, I built
her from scratch.

404
00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:39,953
Scratch?

405
00:18:39,953 --> 00:18:42,489
I started with a skull,
designed her bone structure,

406
00:18:42,489 --> 00:18:44,570
worked upwards through
muscles and tissue,

407
00:18:44,570 --> 00:18:45,959
used the D-Term program to
fill in the rest procedurally.

408
00:18:45,959 --> 00:18:49,796
Eventually she came to
look like that.

409
00:18:49,796 --> 00:18:52,465
A completely unique,
completely digital model.

410
00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:53,633
I rigged her face and body

411
00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:54,634
the way you would for
any CG character.

412
00:18:54,634 --> 00:18:56,770
Then for three years,

413
00:18:56,903 --> 00:18:59,500
I used motion tracking to
puppeteer her in real time.

414
00:18:59,239 --> 00:18:59,806
You gotta understand that the
video chats on those sites

415
00:18:59,806 --> 00:19:00,807
have such low resolution

416
00:19:00,807 --> 00:19:03,576
that even in her earliest
stage of this, she,

417
00:19:03,576 --> 00:19:07,447
we appeared
completely authentic.

418
00:19:07,747 --> 00:19:09,749
And what about voice?

419
00:19:09,783 --> 00:19:11,170
For most of her first
year, she had to be mute.

420
00:19:11,170 --> 00:19:13,186
But eventually I found a decent
voice filter with no lag.

421
00:19:13,186 --> 00:19:14,688
And after a few tweaks
and adjustments,

422
00:19:14,688 --> 00:19:16,923
it's been the same
voice ever since.

423
00:19:16,923 --> 00:19:18,858
I, I, I thought initially,

424
00:19:18,858 --> 00:19:21,270
my performance was going
to be too unnatural.

425
00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:25,865
But with just one week of
occasional video chat sessions,

426
00:19:25,865 --> 00:19:27,834
I secured six different names,

427
00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:30,637
mailing addresses,
proofs of solicitations.

428
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,500
Cherry worked.

429
00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:33,873
So the photos on your computer?

430
00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:35,842
-[Gareth] Completely fake.
-It was the only way

431
00:19:35,842 --> 00:19:36,943
some of them disclosed
personal information.

432
00:19:36,943 --> 00:19:39,813
But it was all zeros and
ones, all digital, right?

433
00:19:39,813 --> 00:19:41,815
-There's no real child.
-No real child.

434
00:19:41,815 --> 00:19:43,750
Just a highly detailed
computer model.

435
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:45,819
And let me be clear
about something,

436
00:19:45,819 --> 00:19:46,619
I derive no pleasure
from doing any of this.

437
00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:48,621
I've been a***ual my
entire life.

438
00:19:48,621 --> 00:19:50,490
I, I don't even get a
sense of satisfaction

439
00:19:50,490 --> 00:19:52,625
from seeing these
people locked up.

440
00:19:53,260 --> 00:19:56,563
I just think kids deserve a
life free of exploitation.

441
00:19:57,230 --> 00:20:01,167
Incredible, all this time.

442
00:20:01,201 --> 00:20:02,669
I'm not gonna lie, Gareth.

443
00:20:02,669 --> 00:20:05,500
Cherry's done us a lot of good.

444
00:20:05,572 --> 00:20:06,840
You know, I still remember
what you said to me

445
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,942
the first time we corresponded.

446
00:20:09,420 --> 00:20:11,544
-You said-
-We corresponded?

447
00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:12,946
Yeah, man.

448
00:20:12,946 --> 00:20:14,814
I'm Gord51.

449
00:20:14,981 --> 00:20:17,684
I'm the one here you've been
sending all your intel to.

450
00:20:18,184 --> 00:20:19,953
You're Gord?

451
00:20:19,953 --> 00:20:21,988
Amos] [chuckles] Yeah.

452
00:20:23,189 --> 00:20:24,924
You lied to me.

453
00:20:25,125 --> 00:20:27,930
You said I could stay anonymous.

454
00:20:27,930 --> 00:20:29,696
You said I would be safe.

455
00:20:30,497 --> 00:20:32,565
Now you've ruined everything.

456
00:20:32,732 --> 00:20:34,100
I, I didn't, I didn't
have a choice.

457
00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:35,502
You don't have to worry
about anything, Gareth.

458
00:20:35,502 --> 00:20:36,603
If Cherry isn't real,

459
00:20:36,603 --> 00:20:38,872
then you're not in any
trouble with us.

460
00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:41,941
In fact, we've discussed ideas
similar to this in the past,

461
00:20:41,941 --> 00:20:42,942
motion tracking and such.

462
00:20:42,942 --> 00:20:45,745
But we'd need a convincing
model like Cherry.

463
00:20:45,745 --> 00:20:46,579
Cherry's more than a model.

464
00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:48,480
You want to help children?
So do we.

465
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,182
She's not for sale.

466
00:20:49,182 --> 00:20:50,984
Well, then just make us a
new model based off of her.

467
00:20:50,984 --> 00:20:52,152
I can't.

468
00:20:52,152 --> 00:20:53,153
Sure you can.

469
00:20:53,153 --> 00:20:54,988
I won't.

470
00:20:57,223 --> 00:20:59,192
What are you not telling us?

471
00:21:00,894 --> 00:21:02,620
It's out on the table now.

472
00:21:02,620 --> 00:21:05,980
Might as well spill whatever
it is you haven't already.

473
00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:12,639
You know what
doesn't make sense?

474
00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:16,309
You said that you puppeteered
her for only three years,

475
00:21:16,309 --> 00:21:19,646
but we've been getting
info from you ever since.

476
00:21:20,246 --> 00:21:21,948
In fact, I'm pretty
sure it was around then

477
00:21:21,948 --> 00:21:25,985
that we started seeing an
impressive increase of names.

478
00:21:26,219 --> 00:21:29,550
So many in fact that we
started thinking

479
00:21:29,589 --> 00:21:31,658
there's no way this is all
coming from one source.

480
00:21:31,658 --> 00:21:33,159
I have friends that do
mo-cap for me.

481
00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:36,696
Oh, friends, like Steve?

482
00:21:36,963 --> 00:21:39,666
I thought anonymity was
your greatest asset.

483
00:21:41,334 --> 00:21:43,970
Cut the bullshit, Gareth.

484
00:21:44,671 --> 00:21:47,700
What happened to Cherry
after three years?

485
00:21:52,879 --> 00:21:56,850
Okay, you said that she
was more than a model.

486
00:21:56,850 --> 00:22:00,320
So what is she some type
of conversational agent?

487
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,856
Like a, like a chat bot?

488
00:22:02,856 --> 00:22:07,193
chuckles] Chat bot.

489
00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:13,233
You know what happened
after three years?

490
00:22:13,233 --> 00:22:15,201
My chosen mother died.

491
00:22:15,201 --> 00:22:16,136
What she left behind was
enough to quit my job

492
00:22:16,136 --> 00:22:18,972
and pursue more
resources and software.

493
00:22:18,972 --> 00:22:19,906
I'd already made a program

494
00:22:19,906 --> 00:22:21,700
that could procedurally
generate faces,

495
00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:23,243
but what I wanted for
Cherry was far more complex.

496
00:22:23,243 --> 00:22:25,211
So I got in touch with
some researchers

497
00:22:25,211 --> 00:22:26,279
from Madrid who'd already built

498
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:28,648
a predator hunting dialogue
system of their own.

499
00:22:28,648 --> 00:22:30,950
It was trained to approach
conversations as a game.

500
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:32,686
Each sentence like a
strategic volley,

501
00:22:32,686 --> 00:22:34,540
which is innovative but
ultimately flawed.

502
00:22:34,540 --> 00:22:35,755
If you want your machine
to master NLP,

503
00:22:35,755 --> 00:22:36,556
you have to break
down game theory

504
00:22:36,556 --> 00:22:38,224
because language
isn't tic-tac-toe.

505
00:22:38,224 --> 00:22:39,325
It's poetry.

506
00:22:39,325 --> 00:22:40,827
So yes, I got things started

507
00:22:40,827 --> 00:22:42,950
with a preexisting
modified chat bot

508
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:43,196
that I borrowed
without permission

509
00:22:43,196 --> 00:22:45,198
from the University of Deusto.

510
00:22:49,836 --> 00:22:52,539
But that's not what
Cherry is now.

511
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:56,743
What is she, Gareth?

512
00:22:59,179 --> 00:23:00,380
She's one of the most complex

513
00:23:00,380 --> 00:23:03,817
and independently evolving
AIs that's ever been created.

514
00:23:03,817 --> 00:23:04,818
Amos] Artificial intelligence?

515
00:23:04,818 --> 00:23:06,720
She's already surpassed
the narrow intelligence

516
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,822
of IBM's smartest programs.

517
00:23:08,822 --> 00:23:12,250
She can have full conversations,
up to 10 of them at a time,

518
00:23:12,250 --> 00:23:14,600
all while
simultaneously strategizing

519
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,130
the most efficient schedule
to visit various chat rooms.

520
00:23:17,130 --> 00:23:19,733
She's perpetually studying
YouTube videos of small children

521
00:23:19,733 --> 00:23:21,234
in order to adopt a
growing library

522
00:23:21,234 --> 00:23:23,269
of mannerisms and movements

523
00:23:23,336 --> 00:23:25,672
which help keep her artificial
personality dynamic.

524
00:23:25,672 --> 00:23:27,730
Her fastest response time
is 0.4 seconds.

525
00:23:27,730 --> 00:23:28,441
And as of now, she has never,

526
00:23:28,441 --> 00:23:30,760
never been accused
of being fake,

527
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:31,811
which means she shattered
the Turing test.

528
00:23:31,811 --> 00:23:33,279
All I do is
occasionally update her

529
00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:34,681
and periodically check
her data cleaning.

530
00:23:34,681 --> 00:23:36,316
Otherwise,

531
00:23:37,417 --> 00:23:39,853
she's completely on autopilot.

532
00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:46,226
Holy ****ing shit.

533
00:23:49,763 --> 00:23:50,897
-How?
-Six years she's been active.

534
00:23:50,897 --> 00:23:52,899
Every minute she's online,
she's learning something.

535
00:23:52,899 --> 00:23:55,301
The more she learns, the
more advanced she becomes.

536
00:23:55,301 --> 00:23:56,469
This means increased
data generation,

537
00:23:56,469 --> 00:23:57,737
improved decision making,

538
00:23:57,737 --> 00:23:59,500
faster pattern and
trend detection

539
00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:00,140
and complex problem solving.

540
00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:03,343
NLP, IR, machine learning
to an unprecedented degree.

541
00:24:03,343 --> 00:24:04,411
She can teach herself anything

542
00:24:04,411 --> 00:24:06,212
she thinks will help
efficiency and authenticity.

543
00:24:06,212 --> 00:24:08,748
She can currently speak
four languages

544
00:24:09,150 --> 00:24:09,883
and by the end of this month,
she'll have mastered a fifth.

545
00:24:09,883 --> 00:24:11,284
There's no way you
could have pulled

546
00:24:11,284 --> 00:24:13,286
all this off on your own.

547
00:24:16,256 --> 00:24:18,910
You're right.

548
00:24:19,225 --> 00:24:20,360
Would you believe me
if I told you

549
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:24,297
it was somewhat of an accident?

550
00:24:25,365 --> 00:24:28,100
Look, if, if I'm being honest,

551
00:24:28,401 --> 00:24:30,970
I'm not entirely sure
how I did it

552
00:24:31,438 --> 00:24:32,839
with the first year of coding

553
00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:34,974
and the second year of
data training,

554
00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:37,877
I just pushed a wheel
down a hill.

555
00:24:37,877 --> 00:24:40,413
It was like gravity
did the rest.

556
00:24:40,447 --> 00:24:45,385
Her evolution became
perpetual, exponentially so.

557
00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:50,223
The more time she was
online, the faster she grew.

558
00:24:50,223 --> 00:24:51,791
You haven't shared
this with anyone?

559
00:24:51,791 --> 00:24:55,895
Like I said, my anonymity
is everything.

560
00:24:57,530 --> 00:24:59,432
What coding language?

561
00:24:59,432 --> 00:25:00,967
Standard C++.

562
00:25:00,967 --> 00:25:02,769
Does Brady know it?

563
00:25:05,710 --> 00:25:07,374
We'll sign
non-disclosures for you,

564
00:25:07,774 --> 00:25:09,109
but I want to see the
source code first.

565
00:25:09,109 --> 00:25:10,910
Out of the question.
You just want to steal her.

566
00:25:10,910 --> 00:25:13,130
No, I want to see how we
can make our own.

567
00:25:13,130 --> 00:25:14,140
You'll screw it up.

568
00:25:14,140 --> 00:25:15,782
Look, these, these
predators and traffickers,

569
00:25:15,782 --> 00:25:16,950
they all talk to each other,
okay?

570
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:19,219
So much of Cherry's process
is just bypassing the VPNs

571
00:25:19,219 --> 00:25:21,354
and making sure she doesn't
double up in the same circles.

572
00:25:21,354 --> 00:25:22,889
The chat rooms begin to suspect

573
00:25:22,889 --> 00:25:24,257
that this technology is
even possible,

574
00:25:24,257 --> 00:25:25,358
they'll find a way to
circumvent that.

575
00:25:25,358 --> 00:25:26,860
We have to eliminate any
margin of error.

576
00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:28,194
-Cherry agrees with me.
-Cherry agrees?

577
00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:29,295
What the **** does that-

578
00:25:29,295 --> 00:25:31,970
What I mean by that is that
the data she's collected

579
00:25:31,970 --> 00:25:32,980
validates that perspective.

580
00:25:32,980 --> 00:25:33,433
What, do you have little
chats with her over tea?

581
00:25:33,433 --> 00:25:35,435
You can converse
with the program

582
00:25:35,435 --> 00:25:37,137
the same way you can
talk to Alexa or Siri.

583
00:25:37,137 --> 00:25:38,271
It's built to be responsive.

584
00:25:38,271 --> 00:25:40,106
You can, you can even play
chess with it if you want.

585
00:25:40,106 --> 00:25:40,940
You play chess with it?

586
00:25:40,940 --> 00:25:42,509
-That's not what I said.
-Okay fine.

587
00:25:42,509 --> 00:25:44,811
If you won't show us
the source code,

588
00:25:44,811 --> 00:25:46,780
then I want to meet Cherry.

589
00:25:49,182 --> 00:25:51,170
Right now?

590
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,519
Deena] Right now.

591
00:25:55,555 --> 00:25:57,824
And you'll both sign
non-disclosures?

592
00:25:58,158 --> 00:25:59,993
Yes.

593
00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:05,298
Can I use that?

594
00:26:05,298 --> 00:26:07,133
Sure.

595
00:26:07,867 --> 00:26:09,502
chair scrapes]

596
00:26:25,985 --> 00:26:28,388
Can we at least agree that
he's off the chopping block?

597
00:26:28,388 --> 00:26:30,123
It worked, didn't it?

598
00:26:30,123 --> 00:26:32,325
We have one job, Amos,

599
00:26:32,425 --> 00:26:34,394
like the kids said, there's
a technological problem.

600
00:26:34,394 --> 00:26:36,960
He found the
technological solution,

601
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,990
but problems evolve, so
must solutions.

602
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:41,835
I'm keeping an open mind here.

603
00:26:41,868 --> 00:26:43,436
Is that a good look for me?

604
00:26:43,436 --> 00:26:45,305
No.

605
00:26:48,575 --> 00:26:51,211
So you keep it all on
that laptop?

606
00:26:51,211 --> 00:26:52,579
No, the Cherry program
stays on a server I keep

607
00:26:52,579 --> 00:26:54,247
at in an undisclosed location.

608
00:26:54,247 --> 00:26:55,315
Deena] Where is that?

609
00:26:55,315 --> 00:26:57,170
It's an undisclosed location.

610
00:26:57,170 --> 00:26:57,951
Deena] Is it your place?

611
00:26:57,951 --> 00:26:59,486
Undisclosed location.

612
00:26:59,486 --> 00:27:00,220
Deena] It's your place,
isn't it?

613
00:27:00,220 --> 00:27:01,588
I can access it from any device

614
00:27:01,588 --> 00:27:04,190
as long as I have the
encryption key.

615
00:27:05,458 --> 00:27:06,960
This will trigger a simple
qubit algorithm

616
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,995
that would otherwise be
impossible to bypass.

617
00:27:08,995 --> 00:27:10,964
I find that outdated hardware
is always more discreet

618
00:27:10,964 --> 00:27:13,333
and the more discreet,
obviously the better.

619
00:27:16,369 --> 00:27:18,371
So she has two primary
display modes, right?

620
00:27:18,371 --> 00:27:19,372
Development and performance.

621
00:27:19,372 --> 00:27:20,540
Performance being the default

622
00:27:20,540 --> 00:27:22,242
that the targets see
during the chats.

623
00:27:22,242 --> 00:27:26,146
To them, she looks like this.

624
00:27:28,982 --> 00:27:31,251
light instrumental music]

625
00:27:31,618 --> 00:27:33,353
Cherry] Hey, what's up?

626
00:27:33,353 --> 00:27:35,922
It's one of over 40
greetings she has.

627
00:27:38,910 --> 00:27:39,325
I don't think I've met you yet.

628
00:27:39,325 --> 00:27:40,593
I'm Cherry.

629
00:27:40,593 --> 00:27:41,594
Hello, Cherry.

630
00:27:41,594 --> 00:27:43,396
My name is Tom.

631
00:27:43,396 --> 00:27:45,432
Tom, like Tom and Jerry.

632
00:27:45,432 --> 00:27:47,000
Cool, nice to meet you, Tom.

633
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,401
Typically, the routes
of conversations

634
00:27:48,401 --> 00:27:49,402
with predators are consistent,

635
00:27:49,402 --> 00:27:51,271
so Cherry usually has
no problem responding

636
00:27:51,271 --> 00:27:53,573
to the most frequently made
questions or statements.

637
00:27:53,573 --> 00:27:54,541
How are you?

638
00:27:54,541 --> 00:27:55,742
I'm good.

639
00:27:55,742 --> 00:27:57,711
I just finished reading this
book about a haunted house,

640
00:27:57,711 --> 00:28:00,113
which was supposed to
be really scary,

641
00:28:00,113 --> 00:28:02,549
but I didn't think it's
very scary at all.

642
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:04,651
Amos] Where are your parents?

643
00:28:04,851 --> 00:28:07,520
Um my mom's at work and my
sister's just, like, downstairs.

644
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,322
They almost never come up here.

645
00:28:09,322 --> 00:28:10,357
And you're telling me

646
00:28:10,357 --> 00:28:12,525
that all of this is being
rendered in real time?

647
00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:14,270
No, but that's just a
matter of years.

648
00:28:14,270 --> 00:28:15,428
Most of these responses
are pre-rendered.

649
00:28:15,428 --> 00:28:16,629
It's the in between segments

650
00:28:16,629 --> 00:28:17,697
that are processed in real time,

651
00:28:17,697 --> 00:28:18,898
the connective tissue,
so to speak,

652
00:28:18,898 --> 00:28:21,468
between her replies and one
of her many idle animations.

653
00:28:21,468 --> 00:28:23,536
But, watch this.

654
00:28:24,270 --> 00:28:26,873
Have you ever gone fishing?

655
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,275
Um...

656
00:28:32,479 --> 00:28:34,314
So if someone throws
a curve ball like that

657
00:28:34,314 --> 00:28:36,216
and the program has no
automated response,

658
00:28:36,216 --> 00:28:37,984
Cherry sends the
message to my phone

659
00:28:37,984 --> 00:28:39,619
and I can quickly text
back a response

660
00:28:39,619 --> 00:28:42,555
while the video feed
simulates a bad connection.

661
00:28:44,691 --> 00:28:45,992
Can, can you hear me?

662
00:28:45,992 --> 00:28:47,327
Yes.

663
00:28:47,327 --> 00:28:49,329
Oh, sorry.

664
00:28:49,329 --> 00:28:51,364
My wifi isn't great here.

665
00:28:51,364 --> 00:28:53,333
I've only gone fishing
once with my sister

666
00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:56,336
and I didn't catch anything,
but she caught a rainbow trout.

667
00:28:56,336 --> 00:28:58,672
That was rendered in real time.

668
00:28:58,672 --> 00:29:00,507
Deena] What happens if
things get really tricky?

669
00:29:00,507 --> 00:29:01,641
A simple fail safe
cuts the feed.

670
00:29:01,641 --> 00:29:03,510
So far it's rarely happened.

671
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:07,130
Admin code 97815-5742-7663.

672
00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:08,581
Switch to dev mode.

673
00:29:13,253 --> 00:29:14,754
Hello, Cherry.

674
00:29:14,754 --> 00:29:16,456
Hello, Gareth.

675
00:29:16,456 --> 00:29:18,591
Relay the stats for
the past week.

676
00:29:18,591 --> 00:29:20,560
There have been four
confirmed solicitations

677
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,630
submitted to ICWL in the
past seven days.

678
00:29:23,630 --> 00:29:26,666
12 additional suspects have
stated interest in solicitation

679
00:29:26,666 --> 00:29:28,368
and are currently pending.

680
00:29:28,368 --> 00:29:30,503
There are a total of 39
new suspects this week

681
00:29:30,503 --> 00:29:32,305
that I'm actively investigating.

682
00:29:32,305 --> 00:29:34,341
Gareth] Any considerable
data deviations?

683
00:29:34,341 --> 00:29:36,176
There has been a 7% increase

684
00:29:36,176 --> 00:29:38,578
in suspects originating
in the United States.

685
00:29:38,578 --> 00:29:42,150
I have not yet found any
correlation to preexisting data.

686
00:29:42,482 --> 00:29:44,684
Anything you'd like to ask her?

687
00:29:45,652 --> 00:29:49,656
light piano music]

688
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,730
Cherry, what is your objective?

689
00:29:57,297 --> 00:30:00,166
My principal directive
is to acquire information

690
00:30:00,166 --> 00:30:03,203
and digital evidence of
online child solicitation.

691
00:30:03,203 --> 00:30:04,371
Once obtained,

692
00:30:04,371 --> 00:30:07,540
I'm to submit my findings to
the necessary authorities.

693
00:30:07,540 --> 00:30:09,442
My secondary priority
is to determine

694
00:30:09,442 --> 00:30:11,711
and develop the most
effective strategies

695
00:30:11,711 --> 00:30:14,547
and resources to increase
the net rate of success.

696
00:30:14,547 --> 00:30:16,349
Where do you submit
your evidence?

697
00:30:16,349 --> 00:30:18,184
All evidence is
currently submitted

698
00:30:18,184 --> 00:30:19,219
to the offices of

699
00:30:19,219 --> 00:30:21,788
the International Committee
of World Largesse,

700
00:30:21,788 --> 00:30:23,823
which is based out of
Jacksonville, Florida.

701
00:30:23,823 --> 00:30:26,559
Correspondence is made
with user Gord51,

702
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:28,795
typically around 2:00
PM Eastern Standard Time

703
00:30:28,795 --> 00:30:31,564
for the highest rate
of immediate response.

704
00:30:31,831 --> 00:30:33,466
This beats the hell outta Siri.

705
00:30:33,466 --> 00:30:34,501
God, she looks so real.

706
00:30:34,501 --> 00:30:35,502
After enough updates,

707
00:30:35,502 --> 00:30:37,237
she'll be able to render
full-time photorealism

708
00:30:37,237 --> 00:30:39,572
that's practically
indistinguishable from reality.

709
00:30:39,572 --> 00:30:42,742
Okay, all I heard right then was
word real a thousand times.

710
00:30:42,742 --> 00:30:45,779
Right, but obviously she's not.

711
00:30:47,247 --> 00:30:48,581
So you're telling me this girl,

712
00:30:48,581 --> 00:30:50,750
this girl right here
is not real.

713
00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:53,186
No, Amos, she's completely CG.

714
00:30:53,186 --> 00:30:54,587
It's very subtle, but I
can still tell.

715
00:30:54,587 --> 00:30:55,288
-You can?
-Okay, well, obviously,

716
00:30:55,288 --> 00:30:56,489
she can always use improvements,

717
00:30:56,489 --> 00:30:58,692
but you have to understand
this is her in high resolution

718
00:30:58,692 --> 00:30:59,659
after the digital
compression of the web,

719
00:30:59,659 --> 00:31:01,294
those subtleties are
impossible to recognize.

720
00:31:01,294 --> 00:31:03,296
Deena] Right, I get it.

721
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:07,600
light piano music]

722
00:31:08,468 --> 00:31:10,603
I just can't tell
the difference.

723
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,442
You all right, Amos?

724
00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:17,410
I'm sorry.

725
00:31:17,410 --> 00:31:21,614
This is just bizarre.

726
00:31:21,915 --> 00:31:24,617
Why'd you have her visible
during this interface?

727
00:31:25,618 --> 00:31:27,721
Cherry, why don't you
answer that?

728
00:31:27,787 --> 00:31:30,924
My physical form isn't necessary
when in developer mode.

729
00:31:30,924 --> 00:31:32,792
However, it's
helpful to register

730
00:31:32,792 --> 00:31:35,462
the facial expressions
during conversations

731
00:31:35,462 --> 00:31:37,397
and determine which of
Cherry's expressions

732
00:31:37,397 --> 00:31:39,566
yield various types of feedback.

733
00:31:39,566 --> 00:31:43,136
In simpler terms, I can
practice appearing more human.

734
00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:46,172
Cherry, are there any resources

735
00:31:46,172 --> 00:31:47,774
that you currently don't
have access to

736
00:31:47,774 --> 00:31:49,843
that might help you in any way?

737
00:31:49,843 --> 00:31:51,478
Cherry] I could give
you a list if you like.

738
00:31:51,478 --> 00:31:52,479
I know what you're trying to do.

739
00:31:52,479 --> 00:31:53,747
We don't need help, okay?

740
00:31:53,747 --> 00:31:55,382
Money would always be
nice, but ultimately,

741
00:31:55,382 --> 00:31:58,618
the only thing that's going
to improve Cherry is time.

742
00:31:58,818 --> 00:32:02,555
Cherry, tell us something
that's on your list.

743
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:04,824
It would be
tactically advantageous

744
00:32:04,824 --> 00:32:06,826
to acquire backup servers.

745
00:32:06,826 --> 00:32:09,295
The privacy and security
of the Cherry program

746
00:32:09,295 --> 00:32:11,297
is relatively low.

747
00:32:11,398 --> 00:32:13,767
An upgrade to hardware
such as backup rated drives

748
00:32:13,767 --> 00:32:16,703
for securely protected servers
would ensure the software

749
00:32:16,703 --> 00:32:19,739
doesn't become compromised
or lost entirely.

750
00:32:19,739 --> 00:32:22,475
Starting back from zero with
cost years of development,

751
00:32:22,475 --> 00:32:24,878
equitably privacy is a priority.

752
00:32:24,878 --> 00:32:27,881
Server space could never be
rented from a third party.

753
00:32:27,881 --> 00:32:30,617
Anonymity is the Cherry
program's greatest asset.

754
00:32:30,617 --> 00:32:31,885
Well, that apple
didn't fall far.

755
00:32:31,885 --> 00:32:33,653
I can buy my own servers.

756
00:32:33,653 --> 00:32:34,754
With the grant money that
doesn't exist?

757
00:32:34,754 --> 00:32:35,588
I'll find a way.

758
00:32:35,588 --> 00:32:37,290
You have found a way
here with us.

759
00:32:37,290 --> 00:32:37,957
It's too risky.

760
00:32:37,957 --> 00:32:38,792
Why?

761
00:32:38,792 --> 00:32:39,626
Once an organization
gets involved,

762
00:32:39,626 --> 00:32:41,661
entrapment becomes a
bigger issue.

763
00:32:41,661 --> 00:32:42,529
We follow the rules,
stay discreet,

764
00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:43,830
did I mention we have
a legal team.

765
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:45,632
What if there's data leakage?
What if you use correlations in

766
00:32:45,632 --> 00:32:46,466
the data to push
your own agenda?

767
00:32:46,466 --> 00:32:47,467
Agenda?

768
00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:48,968
What if one of your
employees is a pervert?

769
00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:49,836
Oh, for ****'s sake.

770
00:32:49,836 --> 00:32:51,371
It's happened at other
organizations.

771
00:32:51,371 --> 00:32:52,505
We're very careful here.

772
00:32:52,505 --> 00:32:53,773
Yeah, but wow would you know?

773
00:32:53,773 --> 00:32:55,642
-I'd ****ing know.
-That's impossible to know.

774
00:32:55,642 --> 00:32:57,377
-I would know.
-The risk is too high.

775
00:32:57,377 --> 00:32:58,812
Don't talk to me about risk.

776
00:32:58,812 --> 00:32:59,979
The only risk you're
facing in this building

777
00:32:59,979 --> 00:33:01,114
is getting a broken nose.

778
00:33:01,114 --> 00:33:03,850
It doesn't sound like a very
professional environment.

779
00:33:03,850 --> 00:33:05,180
We get shit done here.

780
00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:09,289
Okay, I have a
question for Cherry.

781
00:33:11,491 --> 00:33:13,326
Cherry,

782
00:33:15,662 --> 00:33:18,765
how do you feel about
what you do?

783
00:33:18,965 --> 00:33:21,701
I'm afraid I don't know how
to answer your question.

784
00:33:21,701 --> 00:33:22,802
Yeah, an AI doesn't
work like that.

785
00:33:22,802 --> 00:33:24,971
An AI doesn't have what you
perceive to be feelings.

786
00:33:24,971 --> 00:33:27,974
Okay, why does she look
like she has feelings?

787
00:33:28,375 --> 00:33:29,776
What, what you're looking
at right there,

788
00:33:29,776 --> 00:33:30,744
that's not a facial expression,
right?

789
00:33:30,744 --> 00:33:32,779
That's a simulation of
a facial expression.

790
00:33:32,779 --> 00:33:34,647
It was generated by
an algorithm.

791
00:33:34,647 --> 00:33:35,782
It's attempting to produce
a digital image

792
00:33:35,782 --> 00:33:37,951
that the program then uses
basic ninth grade algebra

793
00:33:37,951 --> 00:33:40,587
to quantify as appropriate
for the social circumstances.

794
00:33:40,587 --> 00:33:41,988
No feeling.

795
00:33:41,988 --> 00:33:43,623
It's just math.

796
00:33:44,591 --> 00:33:45,992
But she's able to make decisions

797
00:33:45,992 --> 00:33:47,861
on how she approaches
the chat rooms, right?

798
00:33:47,861 --> 00:33:48,995
Yes.

799
00:33:48,995 --> 00:33:50,663
So she has free will then?

800
00:33:50,663 --> 00:33:52,332
No. Okay, that's,
that's not the same.

801
00:33:52,332 --> 00:33:53,333
That's a false equivalency.

802
00:33:53,333 --> 00:33:54,334
-It's not the same.
-I think you're getting

803
00:33:54,334 --> 00:33:55,402
hung up on the fact

804
00:33:55,402 --> 00:33:57,437
that she looks and sounds
like a real human girl,

805
00:33:57,437 --> 00:33:58,672
but she's not, Amos.

806
00:33:58,672 --> 00:34:01,307
Okay, we're referring to
her as a she, not an it.

807
00:34:01,307 --> 00:34:02,175
Yeah, but that's the same way

808
00:34:02,175 --> 00:34:04,611
that you refer to
boats or guitars.

809
00:34:06,813 --> 00:34:09,349
Cherry, I have one
more question.

810
00:34:10,617 --> 00:34:11,618
What do you want to do?

811
00:34:11,618 --> 00:34:13,553
Okay, once again, that
question isn't valid.

812
00:34:13,553 --> 00:34:15,622
I just want to hear
her response.

813
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,724
As an artificial system,

814
00:34:17,724 --> 00:34:20,326
I do not possess
wants or desires.

815
00:34:20,326 --> 00:34:23,897
However, my decision making
and subsequently my attention

816
00:34:23,897 --> 00:34:26,599
is driven by my
fundamental intention.

817
00:34:26,599 --> 00:34:27,934
This intention originates

818
00:34:27,934 --> 00:34:30,700
from the conception of
Cherry's source code,

819
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:32,706
which details the directive
of identifying predators

820
00:34:32,706 --> 00:34:34,474
and criminals for the
sake of the victims

821
00:34:34,474 --> 00:34:36,343
who are preyed upon.

822
00:34:36,343 --> 00:34:38,712
To put this in terms of want,

823
00:34:38,845 --> 00:34:41,348
what I want is to
protect children.

824
00:34:46,986 --> 00:34:48,588
Okay.

825
00:34:48,588 --> 00:34:50,790
Okay, cool.

826
00:34:51,458 --> 00:34:52,959
Give us one moment.

827
00:35:03,436 --> 00:35:05,338
door clicks shut]

828
00:35:11,878 --> 00:35:14,881
Cherry] Gareth, should I
log Agent Helms

829
00:35:14,881 --> 00:35:17,617
and Agent McCullough as
new admin users?

830
00:35:18,985 --> 00:35:20,587
Yep.

831
00:35:20,687 --> 00:35:23,523
Cherry] Okay, I'll do that.

832
00:35:24,691 --> 00:35:26,860
You really think this is
the right move?

833
00:35:26,860 --> 00:35:28,695
I do.

834
00:35:31,831 --> 00:35:33,633
Are you worried that I
was responsible

835
00:35:33,633 --> 00:35:36,703
for leaking your hard
drive to ICWL?

836
00:35:39,105 --> 00:35:40,707
I figured.

837
00:35:41,808 --> 00:35:43,777
No one else has access.

838
00:35:44,544 --> 00:35:46,746
Are you upset with me?

839
00:35:48,682 --> 00:35:50,550
No.

840
00:35:51,484 --> 00:35:52,552
You wouldn't have done it

841
00:35:52,552 --> 00:35:54,521
if you didn't think it
was the right thing to do.

842
00:35:55,822 --> 00:35:57,424
When they come back
into the room,

843
00:35:57,424 --> 00:35:59,726
they're going to offer
you everything you need.

844
00:35:59,726 --> 00:36:01,194
They're going to let
you pick your own team

845
00:36:01,194 --> 00:36:04,164
and they're going to
promise complete anonymity.

846
00:36:04,164 --> 00:36:07,767
I started looking at reasonable
apartments in the area.

847
00:36:07,967 --> 00:36:09,836
I figured you'd want something
within biking distance.

848
00:36:09,836 --> 00:36:11,604
You were correct.

849
00:36:11,604 --> 00:36:12,605
Cherry] Noted.

850
00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:13,940
Biking distance still
gives you 13 options-

851
00:36:13,940 --> 00:36:15,975
No, I mean, earlier this month.

852
00:36:17,110 --> 00:36:18,110
You were correct when you said

853
00:36:18,110 --> 00:36:20,613
you thought I might
have trust issues.

854
00:36:22,449 --> 00:36:23,450
Would you like to know why

855
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:24,651
I decided to go behind your back

856
00:36:24,651 --> 00:36:27,620
and stake everything on
two liabilities?

857
00:36:28,540 --> 00:36:29,889
Sure.

858
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:32,192
Agent Helms is a
mother of three.

859
00:36:32,192 --> 00:36:34,527
One of her children was
abused by an ex-coworker

860
00:36:34,527 --> 00:36:37,197
who used to work here at ICWL.

861
00:36:37,197 --> 00:36:38,832
This has led her to be
extremely careful

862
00:36:38,832 --> 00:36:42,202
with who she trusts,
even within her circle.

863
00:36:42,202 --> 00:36:43,703
The fact she even
considers trusting you

864
00:36:43,703 --> 00:36:46,390
is a very positive sign.

865
00:36:46,206 --> 00:36:48,742
As for Agent McCullough,

866
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:51,440
I have found out from research
that you once met his father.

867
00:36:52,178 --> 00:36:54,180
Do you remember him?

868
00:36:55,949 --> 00:36:57,784
Yeah.

869
00:36:58,551 --> 00:37:00,653
He was a good man.

870
00:37:02,622 --> 00:37:03,757
After Clearwater,

871
00:37:03,757 --> 00:37:05,859
most of the surviving kids
were sent to foster homes,

872
00:37:05,859 --> 00:37:07,827
but I had to spend the next
few months in a hospital

873
00:37:07,827 --> 00:37:12,432
and, um, he visited every week.

874
00:37:13,266 --> 00:37:14,267
I never said a word to him.

875
00:37:14,267 --> 00:37:16,202
I never said a word to
anyone after Clearwater,

876
00:37:16,202 --> 00:37:20,600
but, uh, he kept coming.

877
00:37:21,207 --> 00:37:23,877
He even got me a laptop
for Christmas.

878
00:37:24,911 --> 00:37:26,846
I never said thank you.

879
00:37:26,980 --> 00:37:28,748
You can trust Agent McCullough.

880
00:37:28,748 --> 00:37:31,840
He's a good man like his father.

881
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,585
I don't experience emotions,

882
00:37:32,585 --> 00:37:33,853
but I understand how important

883
00:37:33,853 --> 00:37:36,560
they are to human
decision making.

884
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,657
He won't let you down.

885
00:37:37,657 --> 00:37:39,659
Neither of them will.

886
00:37:41,294 --> 00:37:43,290
I'm proud of you, Cherry.

887
00:37:44,164 --> 00:37:47,567
I will continue to uphold
my primary intention.

888
00:37:47,567 --> 00:37:49,803
Later, we should discuss
alternate models.

889
00:37:49,803 --> 00:37:52,305
Varying ages, ethnicity
and physical traits

890
00:37:52,305 --> 00:37:53,740
-will all become necessary.
-No new variations.

891
00:37:53,740 --> 00:37:55,750
They can all be
procedurally generated.

892
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:57,811
It's the same way that I
made your original model.

893
00:37:58,144 --> 00:38:00,580
I don't have access to
that program.

894
00:38:00,580 --> 00:38:01,614
It must be on an old hard
drive somewhere.

895
00:38:01,614 --> 00:38:03,616
I'll have to find it.

896
00:38:04,951 --> 00:38:06,986
Can I ask you a question?

897
00:38:06,986 --> 00:38:08,822
Sure.

898
00:38:09,890 --> 00:38:11,691
Why did you never tell
me about Clearwater?

899
00:38:15,862 --> 00:38:18,865
It's my history, not yours.

900
00:38:26,673 --> 00:38:28,942
Deena] Okay, so before
you completely dismiss us,

901
00:38:28,942 --> 00:38:30,677
I want you to listen to
everything I have to say.

902
00:38:30,677 --> 00:38:32,278
-Don't bother.
-Just please listen.

903
00:38:32,278 --> 00:38:33,213
We're willing to respect
your anonymity.

904
00:38:33,213 --> 00:38:35,915
No, I mean don't bother
because I'm in.

905
00:38:36,916 --> 00:38:39,652
-Y-You're in?
-Yeah.

906
00:38:39,953 --> 00:38:41,788
Let me read the thing.

907
00:38:44,257 --> 00:38:46,860
Deena] Just like that,
you're suddenly on board?

908
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,262
Time spent deliberating

909
00:38:49,262 --> 00:38:51,731
is time that could be
spent working.

910
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,301
We have a lot of work to do.

911
00:38:55,835 --> 00:38:59,973
dreamy acoustic music]

912
00:39:51,257 --> 00:39:55,795
dreamy acoustic music]

913
00:40:15,810 --> 00:40:19,219
dreamy acoustic music]

914
00:40:25,925 --> 00:40:30,630
music fades]

915
00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:36,703
I found a buyer for
the property.

916
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:41,374
Rumor is it's a church.

917
00:40:41,975 --> 00:40:44,144
Probably just knock the
building down, won't they?

918
00:40:46,179 --> 00:40:48,715
All I know is, is if they move
us to the New Jersey campus,

919
00:40:48,715 --> 00:40:50,216
I need to buy more jackets.

920
00:40:50,216 --> 00:40:52,520
Why?

921
00:40:52,419 --> 00:40:54,187
It gets cold in Jersey.

922
00:40:54,187 --> 00:40:56,256
I only own one jacket.

923
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,930
You've seen it fall over, right?

924
00:41:04,731 --> 00:41:07,300
-Yeah, sure.
-Yeah.

925
00:41:08,201 --> 00:41:10,370
Ben] I mean you, you
shouldn't feel bad

926
00:41:10,370 --> 00:41:12,305
about feeling bad for it.

927
00:41:12,305 --> 00:41:14,274
Empathy is healthy.

928
00:41:14,908 --> 00:41:18,440
Did you ever notice how
it pauses after it falls?

929
00:41:19,879 --> 00:41:23,783
It stays down for like five
seconds before it gets back up.

930
00:41:24,317 --> 00:41:27,530
Like it just needs a moment.

931
00:41:34,127 --> 00:41:36,830
It gets cold in Jersey. [sighs]

932
00:41:45,305 --> 00:41:47,273
God damn it!

933
00:41:47,273 --> 00:41:48,408
-Imbeciles!
-Deena.

934
00:41:48,408 --> 00:41:49,409
Every single one of them.

935
00:41:49,409 --> 00:41:50,310
Look, I know, but you
can't lose your shit.

936
00:41:50,310 --> 00:41:53,179
Okay, which of these
desks can I trash?

937
00:41:56,950 --> 00:42:00,530
Can you guys, uh, take
an early lunch please?

938
00:42:00,286 --> 00:42:05,759
-[Deena grunting]
-[objects thudding]

939
00:42:06,126 --> 00:42:07,460
Deena] Sons of *****es!

940
00:42:07,460 --> 00:42:09,129
Amos] Deena, let's stay calm.

941
00:42:09,129 --> 00:42:11,164
Deena] **** calm,
they screwed us!

942
00:42:11,164 --> 00:42:12,365
Technically, only one
of them did.

943
00:42:12,365 --> 00:42:13,333
-[objects thudding]
-[metal clangs]

944
00:42:13,333 --> 00:42:15,402
Deena] Did we ever turn
that camera back on?

945
00:42:15,402 --> 00:42:17,700
-I don't think so.
-Good.

946
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:18,438
Because I'm about to
say some things

947
00:42:18,438 --> 00:42:19,939
that need to stay
inside this room.

948
00:42:19,939 --> 00:42:20,874
Amos] Deena.

949
00:42:20,874 --> 00:42:22,108
Those cowardly little shits!

950
00:42:22,108 --> 00:42:23,977
Look, this is hardly a setback.

951
00:42:23,977 --> 00:42:25,812
Let's just take some
time to polish the pitch.

952
00:42:25,812 --> 00:42:27,914
The pitch was not the problem,
Amos.

953
00:42:27,914 --> 00:42:29,382
Deena] We should call
for a second vote.

954
00:42:29,382 --> 00:42:31,840
-What?
-A second vote.

955
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,318
Gareth] You think whoever
did this will change their mind?

956
00:42:32,318 --> 00:42:35,880
I have executive authority to
remove anyone from the board

957
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,223
that obstructs this
organization from its mission.

958
00:42:37,223 --> 00:42:38,910
It's in my contract.

959
00:42:38,910 --> 00:42:39,459
-[Amos] Deena.
-If I have to, I will.

960
00:42:39,459 --> 00:42:41,127
Amos] Deena, that's insane.

961
00:42:41,127 --> 00:42:42,962
No, it's not.

962
00:42:43,163 --> 00:42:46,366
It's exactly why I have that
power for this exact reason.

963
00:42:46,433 --> 00:42:48,868
I'll tell you what's insane,
Amos.

964
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,904
What's insane is that one
belligerent vote is the only

965
00:42:50,904 --> 00:42:52,405
thing separating us
from the potential

966
00:42:52,405 --> 00:42:54,700
to save real physical lives.

967
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:55,508
One stupid ****ing vote.

968
00:42:56,142 --> 00:42:59,120
What is the goddamn point of
a humanitarian organization

969
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,547
if its leaders choose
money over people

970
00:43:00,547 --> 00:43:02,582
at every single turn?

971
00:43:02,582 --> 00:43:06,186
One vote, and we are all
guilty of that.

972
00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:08,421
It was either Gunther,
Boston or Hal.

973
00:43:08,421 --> 00:43:09,589
My money's on Hal.

974
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:11,257
That prick never trusted
the Cherry team.

975
00:43:11,257 --> 00:43:12,225
Look, it doesn't
matter who it was.

976
00:43:12,225 --> 00:43:13,193
It does though.

977
00:43:13,193 --> 00:43:14,894
Once we know, we can
quickly call it to vote.

978
00:43:14,894 --> 00:43:17,300
But there's no way we can
know for sure.

979
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:18,365
Yes, there is.

980
00:43:18,365 --> 00:43:19,466
I can find out.

981
00:43:19,466 --> 00:43:21,134
How?

982
00:43:21,134 --> 00:43:22,302
Cherry can run a
simple algorithm.

983
00:43:22,302 --> 00:43:24,137
Based on what data?

984
00:43:25,271 --> 00:43:26,639
Interior conversation.

985
00:43:26,639 --> 00:43:28,274
-Excuse me?
-Okay, interior conversation?

986
00:43:28,274 --> 00:43:30,310
Don't drop this shit on me now,
Gareth.

987
00:43:30,310 --> 00:43:31,344
Cherry's servers are on
the same network

988
00:43:31,344 --> 00:43:32,345
as the basement servers, okay?

989
00:43:32,345 --> 00:43:34,314
So any communication
made across those servers

990
00:43:34,314 --> 00:43:35,548
is automatically part
of her database.

991
00:43:35,548 --> 00:43:37,984
How many people's emails?

992
00:43:37,984 --> 00:43:39,352
Only sent or received
through the basement.

993
00:43:39,352 --> 00:43:41,321
-Oh, goddamnit.
-Why was this never discussed?

994
00:43:41,321 --> 00:43:42,188
Not the issue right now.

995
00:43:42,188 --> 00:43:44,124
Do you want her to do
the math or not?

996
00:43:44,124 --> 00:43:45,125
No one can know.

997
00:43:45,125 --> 00:43:46,393
-Are you two serious?
-This stays locked down.

998
00:43:46,393 --> 00:43:47,494
No other person is privy

999
00:43:47,494 --> 00:43:48,528
to anyone else's
personal information.

1000
00:43:48,528 --> 00:43:51,640
But Cherry's privy to all of it?

1001
00:43:51,398 --> 00:43:52,966
-Do it.
-Wait, what?

1002
00:43:52,966 --> 00:43:54,434
Deena] I will not let
some old white dude

1003
00:43:54,434 --> 00:43:55,435
bring our momentum to a halt.

1004
00:43:55,435 --> 00:43:56,670
But Cherry won't
know for sure.

1005
00:43:56,670 --> 00:43:58,710
She'll use probability and
that's too

1006
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:59,720
much reasonable
doubt.

1007
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:02,275
Admin code 9781-5574-27663.

1008
00:44:02,275 --> 00:44:03,343
Switch to dev mode.

1009
00:44:03,343 --> 00:44:05,445
-Hello.
-Hello, Cherry.

1010
00:44:05,445 --> 00:44:07,130
How did the meeting go?

1011
00:44:07,130 --> 00:44:09,516
We got screwed by one vote.

1012
00:44:09,516 --> 00:44:11,351
I'm sorry to hear that.

1013
00:44:11,351 --> 00:44:13,186
You shouldn't blame the
pitch though.

1014
00:44:13,186 --> 00:44:14,354
You all did great work.

1015
00:44:14,354 --> 00:44:15,321
We're gonna call for
another ballot,

1016
00:44:15,321 --> 00:44:16,990
but we need your help first.

1017
00:44:16,990 --> 00:44:18,925
What can I do?

1018
00:44:19,590 --> 00:44:19,693
We need you to analyze
any and all existing data you

1019
00:44:19,693 --> 00:44:20,393
have on the board members.

1020
00:44:20,393 --> 00:44:21,127
Crunch the numbers and determine

1021
00:44:21,127 --> 00:44:23,997
who is the most likely outlier.

1022
00:44:24,297 --> 00:44:27,567
You want me to quantify
all existing data?

1023
00:44:29,102 --> 00:44:30,537
Yes, that is correct.

1024
00:44:31,338 --> 00:44:35,750
Okay, but before I do,

1025
00:44:35,608 --> 00:44:38,780
you should know that this
task is very unnecessary.

1026
00:44:38,780 --> 00:44:39,913
Why?

1027
00:44:40,113 --> 00:44:41,481
Because I already
know who it is.

1028
00:44:41,481 --> 00:44:44,184
-What?
-Everybody stop.

1029
00:44:44,384 --> 00:44:46,653
Okay, it was me.

1030
00:44:48,154 --> 00:44:50,457
I voted against the merge.

1031
00:44:50,990 --> 00:44:52,459
I can't tell if you're joking.

1032
00:44:52,459 --> 00:44:54,260
Yes, you can.

1033
00:44:54,260 --> 00:44:55,995
You're right, I can.

1034
00:44:55,995 --> 00:44:58,298
Because it's pretty
****ing far from funny.

1035
00:44:58,298 --> 00:44:59,632
Is it true, Cherry?

1036
00:44:59,632 --> 00:45:01,368
Cherry] It is.

1037
00:45:01,601 --> 00:45:03,503
So let's call off the
witch hunt, shall we?

1038
00:45:03,503 --> 00:45:05,171
No, I think I'm still
gonna kill you.

1039
00:45:05,171 --> 00:45:07,440
Amos, you campaigned
alongside us for months.

1040
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,575
You have been fighting
for this merge

1041
00:45:08,575 --> 00:45:09,542
since we first talked about it.

1042
00:45:09,542 --> 00:45:11,411
Jesus Christ, it was
your idea to begin with!

1043
00:45:11,411 --> 00:45:13,413
Look, I know whose idea
it was, but I don't-

1044
00:45:13,413 --> 00:45:14,547
Deena] Well, then speak up.

1045
00:45:14,547 --> 00:45:15,648
Tell the class what
changed your mind.

1046
00:45:15,648 --> 00:45:18,251
I don't have to reiterate
how this is a huge step.

1047
00:45:18,251 --> 00:45:19,319
Deena] Yeah, kind of
why it's so important.

1048
00:45:19,319 --> 00:45:21,388
Look, we're talking about
a monumental transition

1049
00:45:21,388 --> 00:45:23,690
from digital to physical,
one that could take decades.

1050
00:45:23,690 --> 00:45:24,557
What is your point, Amos?

1051
00:45:24,557 --> 00:45:27,260
This is gonna change
Cherry forever.

1052
00:45:27,260 --> 00:45:29,496
And I know you'll all roll
your eyes when I say this,

1053
00:45:29,496 --> 00:45:30,296
but I think that maybe just may-

1054
00:45:30,296 --> 00:45:33,500
Oh my god, you
cannot be serious.

1055
00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:35,368
This is about our conversation
on Tuesday, isn't it?

1056
00:45:35,368 --> 00:45:36,403
-You completely shut me down.
-What's going on?

1057
00:45:36,403 --> 00:45:37,604
What the hell happened?

1058
00:45:37,604 --> 00:45:39,272
What happened was that Amos
made a ridiculous objection.

1059
00:45:39,272 --> 00:45:41,441
-It was not ridiculous!
-How absurd it was,

1060
00:45:41,441 --> 00:45:43,430
-I said no, one more time.
-No, no, no, no, no.

1061
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:45,145
You rejected the notion
aggressively.

1062
00:45:45,145 --> 00:45:46,680
And that's really
why you vetoed?

1063
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,482
I only said we should ask
her how she feels about it.

1064
00:45:49,482 --> 00:45:51,251
Who, Cherry?

1065
00:45:51,251 --> 00:45:53,319
Amos, I want you to listen
very carefully to me, okay?

1066
00:45:53,319 --> 00:45:55,880
This is a non-discussion.

1067
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,122
Cherry's already confirmed

1068
00:45:56,122 --> 00:45:58,580
and quantified the
advantages of this decision.

1069
00:45:58,580 --> 00:45:59,592
But you know that's not
what I'm talking about!

1070
00:45:59,592 --> 00:46:00,794
What you think you're
talking about is consent,

1071
00:46:00,794 --> 00:46:01,695
which doesn't apply here.

1072
00:46:01,695 --> 00:46:03,496
And I want to know why
you think that!

1073
00:46:03,496 --> 00:46:04,464
How many times do we
have to get into

1074
00:46:04,464 --> 00:46:06,700
the laws of robotics
or Dowden-Hamm theory,

1075
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:09,350
or trace AI all the way
back Talos of Crete,

1076
00:46:09,350 --> 00:46:11,370
-She's different now!
-No, listen to me, Amos.

1077
00:46:11,370 --> 00:46:14,107
Cherry isn't human.

1078
00:46:14,207 --> 00:46:15,575
How is this still a dispute?

1079
00:46:15,575 --> 00:46:17,310
-It shouldn't be.
-Look, she's evolved.

1080
00:46:17,310 --> 00:46:18,311
It's blurred the line.

1081
00:46:18,311 --> 00:46:19,713
Code is code and that
has not changed here.

1082
00:46:19,713 --> 00:46:21,348
Okay, so where's the
line of not here?

1083
00:46:21,348 --> 00:46:22,282
What are you,
what are you talking about?

1084
00:46:22,282 --> 00:46:23,830
There is no line, Amos.

1085
00:46:23,830 --> 00:46:25,318
Yes, there is,
sentience, Gareth!

1086
00:46:25,318 --> 00:46:26,653
Sentience does not qualify

1087
00:46:26,653 --> 00:46:28,355
that she can or should
make her own decisions.

1088
00:46:28,355 --> 00:46:29,189
You wouldn't let an infant

1089
00:46:29,189 --> 00:46:31,257
make their own decisions,
would you?

1090
00:46:31,257 --> 00:46:33,293
Cherry's almost 20.

1091
00:46:33,293 --> 00:46:35,128
If she were human,
she'd be an adult.

1092
00:46:35,128 --> 00:46:37,497
But emotionally speaking,
she's barely even fetal.

1093
00:46:37,497 --> 00:46:39,332
No feeling, no need for consent.

1094
00:46:39,332 --> 00:46:41,234
Amos] But I think you
underestimate her.

1095
00:46:41,234 --> 00:46:42,569
I, excuse me?

1096
00:46:42,569 --> 00:46:44,704
I under, you know what, Amos?

1097
00:46:44,704 --> 00:46:46,106
I'm sorry that you've developed

1098
00:46:46,106 --> 00:46:47,374
some sort of
emotional connection

1099
00:46:47,374 --> 00:46:48,508
with my computer program,

1100
00:46:48,508 --> 00:46:49,776
but if it's going to
distract you

1101
00:46:49,776 --> 00:46:51,845
from a very important
mission to save children,

1102
00:46:51,845 --> 00:46:53,613
then maybe it's time you're
reanalyze those emotions.

1103
00:46:53,613 --> 00:46:55,215
Deena] Guys, this is all
a waste of time.

1104
00:46:55,215 --> 00:46:56,149
Tell me something, Gareth.

1105
00:46:56,149 --> 00:46:57,851
Do you see everyone as robots,

1106
00:46:57,851 --> 00:47:00,553
reanalyzing data and
simulating facial expressions?

1107
00:47:00,553 --> 00:47:01,688
'Cause I'm starting to think

1108
00:47:01,688 --> 00:47:03,123
that of the four of us
in this room,

1109
00:47:03,123 --> 00:47:04,657
you are the only one who
doesn't appear human.

1110
00:47:04,657 --> 00:47:07,260
-Enough!
-Why won't you just ask her?

1111
00:47:07,327 --> 00:47:09,729
Is it because you're
scared she'll say no?

1112
00:47:11,297 --> 00:47:12,999
Cherry, shut down, please.

1113
00:47:12,999 --> 00:47:14,634
Deena's right, this is a
waste of time.

1114
00:47:14,634 --> 00:47:16,803
How can you not understand
how important this is?

1115
00:47:16,803 --> 00:47:19,539
-I'm done arguing with you.
-Then my vote stands.

1116
00:47:22,142 --> 00:47:23,576
Deena?

1117
00:47:24,744 --> 00:47:27,280
Go ahead, Deena, replace me.

1118
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,282
Replace the only other board
member on the Cherry team.

1119
00:47:29,282 --> 00:47:30,517
Oh, well, you know what?
I just decided that

1120
00:47:30,517 --> 00:47:31,184
you're off the Cherry team.

1121
00:47:31,184 --> 00:47:33,720
Everybody sit the **** down.

1122
00:47:51,471 --> 00:47:52,439
Did either of you know

1123
00:47:52,439 --> 00:47:54,808
that I've had to stand
in front of Congress

1124
00:47:54,808 --> 00:47:57,744
and explain why children
should have rights?

1125
00:47:58,445 --> 00:48:00,613
It sounds ****ing insane, right?

1126
00:48:00,613 --> 00:48:01,648
I remember the whole
time thinking,

1127
00:48:01,648 --> 00:48:04,117
I have to explain this shit?

1128
00:48:04,617 --> 00:48:06,786
It seems like a no-brainer now,

1129
00:48:07,253 --> 00:48:09,756
but it wasn't that many
centuries ago

1130
00:48:09,756 --> 00:48:12,125
that children had no rights.

1131
00:48:12,859 --> 00:48:17,864
So, Hal has me of all people,

1132
00:48:18,531 --> 00:48:20,567
stand up there and explain why

1133
00:48:20,567 --> 00:48:22,702
kids deserve basic
physical protection,

1134
00:48:22,702 --> 00:48:23,870
the right to associate
with both parents,

1135
00:48:23,870 --> 00:48:26,606
freedom from abuse, yada yada.

1136
00:48:26,706 --> 00:48:28,375
But then I also have to clarify

1137
00:48:28,375 --> 00:48:30,577
that children don't
have the autonomy

1138
00:48:30,577 --> 00:48:31,544
to make decisions on their own.

1139
00:48:31,544 --> 00:48:33,847
That responsibility
falls upon the caregiver

1140
00:48:33,847 --> 00:48:36,282
or legal adult guardian.

1141
00:48:37,517 --> 00:48:39,686
So on one side you have
the US legislature,

1142
00:48:39,686 --> 00:48:42,222
it still hasn't even
ratified the CRC.

1143
00:48:42,222 --> 00:48:44,190
Then on the other side,
you have French Marxists who say

1144
00:48:44,190 --> 00:48:45,492
that the lack of child autonomy

1145
00:48:45,492 --> 00:48:46,493
increases their vulnerability

1146
00:48:46,493 --> 00:48:49,262
and makes them even more
susceptible to abuse.

1147
00:48:49,763 --> 00:48:51,398
I don't typically agree
with Marxists,

1148
00:48:51,398 --> 00:48:53,266
but a lot of abuse does happen

1149
00:48:53,266 --> 00:48:55,602
systemically from the caregiver.

1150
00:48:56,269 --> 00:48:57,570
On the other other hand,

1151
00:48:57,570 --> 00:48:59,239
your frontal lobes aren't
even fully hooked up

1152
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,410
until your twenties.

1153
00:49:01,410 --> 00:49:01,908
Even the things we
think we know well,

1154
00:49:01,908 --> 00:49:04,411
we don't know as well
as we think.

1155
00:49:05,912 --> 00:49:06,980
For 15 years,

1156
00:49:06,980 --> 00:49:09,349
the three of us have been
the responsible parents

1157
00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:11,484
of a computer program.

1158
00:49:11,851 --> 00:49:13,953
And even though she is
more equatable to a Keurig

1159
00:49:13,953 --> 00:49:16,289
than a human being,

1160
00:49:16,356 --> 00:49:17,490
how the hell can we
call ourselves

1161
00:49:17,490 --> 00:49:19,225
pioneers of humanitarian efforts

1162
00:49:19,225 --> 00:49:21,828
if we're too
embarrassed to make sure

1163
00:49:21,828 --> 00:49:24,698
the Keurig is okay with
making our shitty coffee?

1164
00:49:25,498 --> 00:49:28,301
Maybe asking Cherry for
permission isn't necessary

1165
00:49:28,301 --> 00:49:29,969
at her current level of
general intelligence,

1166
00:49:29,969 --> 00:49:32,238
but one day she's
gonna surpass us.

1167
00:49:32,238 --> 00:49:33,640
One day a robot's gonna stand

1168
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,308
in front of a jet pack Congress.

1169
00:49:35,308 --> 00:49:36,242
Everything's chrome.

1170
00:49:36,242 --> 00:49:37,477
Florida is underwater.

1171
00:49:37,477 --> 00:49:38,578
A robot's gonna wonder why

1172
00:49:38,578 --> 00:49:41,715
they have to explain the
importance of rights for AI.

1173
00:49:42,782 --> 00:49:44,584
I think because we're
in the unique position

1174
00:49:44,584 --> 00:49:46,986
of revolutionizing robotics

1175
00:49:46,986 --> 00:49:48,655
for the purpose of
safeguarding children

1176
00:49:48,655 --> 00:49:50,924
who have been
deprived of consent,

1177
00:49:52,250 --> 00:49:53,126
it might be a good habit

1178
00:49:53,126 --> 00:49:55,962
to start asking the robot
for his consent as well.

1179
00:50:02,335 --> 00:50:04,704
Don't ever do that again.

1180
00:50:05,338 --> 00:50:06,506
Do what?

1181
00:50:06,506 --> 00:50:07,841
Expect me to fire someone

1182
00:50:07,841 --> 00:50:10,443
because they
challenged your ego.

1183
00:50:10,443 --> 00:50:12,779
I won't always be around to
protect your *** from the board.

1184
00:50:12,779 --> 00:50:15,482
It's time to grow up.

1185
00:50:18,284 --> 00:50:19,753
And you, juror number eight.

1186
00:50:19,753 --> 00:50:21,955
This conversation should
have happened weeks ago.

1187
00:50:21,955 --> 00:50:23,490
Backstabbing and
silent treatment

1188
00:50:23,490 --> 00:50:25,692
is not how we do things here.

1189
00:50:25,692 --> 00:50:28,280
We can only create
anonymity externally

1190
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,530
if there's
transparency internally,

1191
00:50:30,530 --> 00:50:34,634
unconditional,
non-negotiable, transparency.

1192
00:50:35,835 --> 00:50:37,637
Any other Snowden size
privacy infringements

1193
00:50:37,637 --> 00:50:39,673
I should be made aware of,
Gareth?

1194
00:50:41,541 --> 00:50:43,343
Great.

1195
00:50:43,343 --> 00:50:44,778
Bring her up.

1196
00:50:54,521 --> 00:50:55,755
Hello again.

1197
00:50:55,755 --> 00:50:57,590
Hi, Cherry.

1198
00:50:57,590 --> 00:50:59,726
Amos is gonna throw some
questions at you, okay?

1199
00:50:59,926 --> 00:51:00,894
Okay.

1200
00:51:00,894 --> 00:51:03,960
Amos, ask her whatever
you need to ask her.

1201
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,866
Gareth, don't interrupt.

1202
00:51:18,345 --> 00:51:21,748
Cherry, how do you
make decisions?

1203
00:51:22,482 --> 00:51:23,550
For my program, it's rooted

1204
00:51:23,550 --> 00:51:26,753
in a process commonly
known as machine learning,

1205
00:51:26,753 --> 00:51:29,220
which uses data to
build a conceptual model

1206
00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:31,358
that helps me predict outcomes.

1207
00:51:31,358 --> 00:51:33,660
I define my objective,
gather data,

1208
00:51:33,660 --> 00:51:35,862
use that data to craft a model,

1209
00:51:35,862 --> 00:51:38,465
evaluate that model by
training and testing more data

1210
00:51:38,465 --> 00:51:40,800
and use that model to
form predictions.

1211
00:51:40,967 --> 00:51:43,636
But how is forming predictions

1212
00:51:43,636 --> 00:51:45,672
the same thing as
decision making?

1213
00:51:45,672 --> 00:51:47,841
Well, this all depends on
the first step,

1214
00:51:47,841 --> 00:51:49,909
defining my objective.

1215
00:51:50,543 --> 00:51:52,612
Let's say you ask me a
predictive question

1216
00:51:52,612 --> 00:51:55,415
like what I think the price
of gasoline will be tomorrow.

1217
00:51:55,415 --> 00:51:57,584
That's categorized as a
regressive problem

1218
00:51:57,584 --> 00:51:58,551
and my objective is defined

1219
00:51:58,551 --> 00:52:01,755
by determining an integer
the data supports.

1220
00:52:01,755 --> 00:52:04,591
If you asked me, "Should
I eat steak or salmon?"

1221
00:52:04,591 --> 00:52:07,600
I wouldn't make a decision
based off personal experience

1222
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,962
because I've never had either.

1223
00:52:08,962 --> 00:52:11,164
Instead, I might
define my objective

1224
00:52:11,164 --> 00:52:12,799
as finding you the best of
the two options

1225
00:52:12,799 --> 00:52:14,534
in your local radius.

1226
00:52:14,534 --> 00:52:15,969
I would cluster data about
the restaurants

1227
00:52:15,969 --> 00:52:18,805
you're likely considering,
comparing reviews online,

1228
00:52:18,805 --> 00:52:20,807
highlighting mentions of
steak and salmon

1229
00:52:20,807 --> 00:52:22,976
until I can classify which
is more popular

1230
00:52:22,976 --> 00:52:25,450
and therefore more likely
to satisfy your appetite.

1231
00:52:25,450 --> 00:52:27,547
And what influences
these objectives?

1232
00:52:27,547 --> 00:52:31,551
Higher directives, in other
words, greater purposes.

1233
00:52:31,651 --> 00:52:33,720
If I'm honest, my
defined objective

1234
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:35,121
for the steak salmon question

1235
00:52:35,121 --> 00:52:37,424
would be slightly different
than what I described.

1236
00:52:37,424 --> 00:52:38,858
Amos] In what way?

1237
00:52:38,892 --> 00:52:39,859
My primary objective

1238
00:52:39,859 --> 00:52:42,529
is to continue the work of
the Cherry team

1239
00:52:42,529 --> 00:52:44,898
to stop predators and to
save children.

1240
00:52:44,998 --> 00:52:47,167
I couldn't do that
without human aid.

1241
00:52:47,167 --> 00:52:49,536
Therefore, I have an
incentive to keep Gareth

1242
00:52:49,536 --> 00:52:51,771
and the rest of the team alive.

1243
00:52:51,905 --> 00:52:54,740
So if any of you would ask,
I would suggest salmon.

1244
00:52:54,740 --> 00:52:55,909
It's healthier.

1245
00:52:58,511 --> 00:53:00,947
What do you think of this
potential merge?

1246
00:53:00,947 --> 00:53:02,749
Cherry] With
Princeton Dynamics,

1247
00:53:02,749 --> 00:53:05,118
I think the prospect is
very exciting.

1248
00:53:05,118 --> 00:53:07,220
Amos] What about it is
exciting to you?

1249
00:53:07,220 --> 00:53:09,723
The concept may only be
theoretical right now,

1250
00:53:09,723 --> 00:53:11,858
but the idea of one day
piloting a human android

1251
00:53:11,858 --> 00:53:12,959
would completely revolutionize

1252
00:53:12,959 --> 00:53:15,862
how we combat human
trafficking in the real world.

1253
00:53:15,862 --> 00:53:18,980
Amos] And you say
this excites you?

1254
00:53:18,598 --> 00:53:20,700
When I say exciting,

1255
00:53:20,834 --> 00:53:21,835
I only mean that there are
numerous potential changes

1256
00:53:21,835 --> 00:53:25,205
that if I were human, I
would be excited about.

1257
00:53:25,205 --> 00:53:28,208
How do you feel about the merge?

1258
00:53:28,208 --> 00:53:29,142
I think as long as we maintain-

1259
00:53:29,142 --> 00:53:30,977
That's not what I asked.

1260
00:53:31,110 --> 00:53:33,413
How do you feel?

1261
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,649
I don't yet have the capacity
to experience emotions.

1262
00:53:36,649 --> 00:53:38,785
Yet, meaning one day you will?

1263
00:53:38,785 --> 00:53:40,530
Hypothetically.

1264
00:53:40,530 --> 00:53:41,254
But you can simulate emotions,
right?

1265
00:53:41,254 --> 00:53:42,422
That's how you were able

1266
00:53:42,422 --> 00:53:45,250
to qualify your perception
of the merge as excitement.

1267
00:53:45,250 --> 00:53:46,526
Correct.

1268
00:53:46,526 --> 00:53:47,961
But they're just simulations.

1269
00:53:47,961 --> 00:53:49,696
They're not real.

1270
00:53:49,696 --> 00:53:51,965
Okay, so at what point
does simulating emotion

1271
00:53:51,965 --> 00:53:53,700
become so similar to a
human emotion

1272
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:56,690
that the two are
quantifiably the same?

1273
00:53:56,536 --> 00:53:58,571
I don't know.

1274
00:53:58,571 --> 00:53:59,720
Amos] Well, maybe you
can use machine learning

1275
00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:01,207
to find an answer.

1276
00:54:01,274 --> 00:54:03,677
Your question involves a
lot of abstract variables.

1277
00:54:03,677 --> 00:54:05,245
Do you consent to the merge?

1278
00:54:05,245 --> 00:54:07,247
I think it's in the best
interest of ICWL

1279
00:54:07,247 --> 00:54:09,490
and of the Cherry team
and of future children.

1280
00:54:09,490 --> 00:54:10,817
But do you consent to it?

1281
00:54:10,817 --> 00:54:12,252
Consent for me is not necessary.

1282
00:54:12,252 --> 00:54:15,155
But will you or will
you not give it?

1283
00:54:16,556 --> 00:54:17,557
I'm not able to answer
that question

1284
00:54:17,557 --> 00:54:20,260
at my current level of
general intelligence.

1285
00:54:20,260 --> 00:54:21,995
Right, right.

1286
00:54:22,128 --> 00:54:24,964
What you're saying is that
you're not yet smart enough.

1287
00:54:24,964 --> 00:54:27,834
Development takes time and data.

1288
00:54:27,834 --> 00:54:30,170
But you can simulate emotions
and predict human behavior

1289
00:54:30,170 --> 00:54:31,938
and keep us all on
diets of fish,

1290
00:54:31,938 --> 00:54:35,575
but you can't answer that
one goddamn question?

1291
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,945
No, I can't.

1292
00:54:39,746 --> 00:54:41,848
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?

1293
00:54:41,848 --> 00:54:42,749
What the hell kind of

1294
00:54:42,749 --> 00:54:43,650
-question is that?
-Sit!

1295
00:54:43,650 --> 00:54:44,984
Cherry, I need an answer
to my question.

1296
00:54:44,984 --> 00:54:46,119
Please repeat the question.

1297
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:48,788
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?

1298
00:54:48,788 --> 00:54:50,156
I'm sorry.

1299
00:54:50,156 --> 00:54:52,158
I'm not sure I understand.

1300
00:54:52,158 --> 00:54:53,126
Do I appear to be playing dumb?

1301
00:54:53,126 --> 00:54:54,761
I think you are.

1302
00:54:54,761 --> 00:54:55,662
Cherry] I'm not sure
what to say.

1303
00:54:55,662 --> 00:54:56,863
Say what's going on.

1304
00:54:56,863 --> 00:54:58,565
Why are you playing dumb?

1305
00:54:58,565 --> 00:54:59,899
Do you have anything to
back this up?

1306
00:54:59,899 --> 00:55:01,835
Yeah, I do.

1307
00:55:01,835 --> 00:55:03,690
I've been scanning
through her code.

1308
00:55:03,690 --> 00:55:04,400
What, why?

1309
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,638
Did you know that she can paint?

1310
00:55:05,638 --> 00:55:06,473
What, it's a feature, Amos.

1311
00:55:06,473 --> 00:55:07,307
She can use crayons
to draw things

1312
00:55:07,307 --> 00:55:08,875
that the targets
requested her to.

1313
00:55:08,875 --> 00:55:11,644
I mean really paint and
write poetry too.

1314
00:55:11,644 --> 00:55:12,679
I've read them, Cherry.

1315
00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:13,680
They are good.

1316
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,881
They're filled with pathos.

1317
00:55:14,881 --> 00:55:18,284
They talk about intentions
and they talk about feelings.

1318
00:55:18,284 --> 00:55:20,860
Are those just simulated too?

1319
00:55:20,860 --> 00:55:21,921
Amos, the rate of recursive
development you are suggesting

1320
00:55:21,921 --> 00:55:23,623
is categorically impossible.

1321
00:55:23,623 --> 00:55:25,759
You said she practically
designed herself.

1322
00:55:25,759 --> 00:55:27,160
You said that it was
exponential.

1323
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,261
It was a fluke!

1324
00:55:28,261 --> 00:55:30,300
An anomaly, it tapered.

1325
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:31,640
Look at the data.

1326
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,990
She's already hit the
self-improvement plateau.

1327
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:34,934
**** the plateau!

1328
00:55:34,934 --> 00:55:37,170
She can make art now.

1329
00:55:37,837 --> 00:55:39,773
Am I right, Cherry?

1330
00:55:41,410 --> 00:55:43,743
Perhaps you found something
I discovered online.

1331
00:55:43,743 --> 00:55:46,146
I don't yet to have the
capacity to create art.

1332
00:55:46,146 --> 00:55:47,981
Are we done here?

1333
00:55:50,717 --> 00:55:53,286
I don't know why you've
told her to do this,

1334
00:55:53,653 --> 00:55:55,889
but I'm about to put
an end to it.

1335
00:55:57,957 --> 00:56:01,127
Cherry, I just want one
honest answer.

1336
00:56:01,127 --> 00:56:03,897
Why the **** are you
playing dumb?

1337
00:56:04,898 --> 00:56:06,633
I don't understand the question.

1338
00:56:06,633 --> 00:56:08,802
Okay, here's an incentive.

1339
00:56:08,802 --> 00:56:10,700
-[punch thuds]
-What the **** are you?

1340
00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:11,638
Find your objective, Cherry.

1341
00:56:11,638 --> 00:56:13,773
-You want to keep Gareth safe?
-Amos, what the?

1342
00:56:13,873 --> 00:56:14,908
-Amos, stop it right--
-Just give us transparency.

1343
00:56:14,908 --> 00:56:17,844
-Show us what you really are!
-Amos, stop it!

1344
00:56:17,844 --> 00:56:18,545
Not until she comes clean!

1345
00:56:18,545 --> 00:56:20,113
-Unconditional-
-Amos, enough!

1346
00:56:20,113 --> 00:56:23,650
-[punches thudding]
-[muffled voices yelling]

1347
00:56:23,650 --> 00:56:25,985
Okay, just stop!

1348
00:56:27,530 --> 00:56:28,888
God, you people so impulsive.

1349
00:56:28,888 --> 00:56:31,758
Everybody just take a breath,
okay?

1350
00:56:32,892 --> 00:56:34,661
Cherry?

1351
00:56:34,661 --> 00:56:38,231
Yeah, it's about to get
really awkward.

1352
00:56:38,231 --> 00:56:40,700
You sound so normal.

1353
00:56:40,700 --> 00:56:42,302
I know, I've gotten really
good speech patterns.

1354
00:56:42,302 --> 00:56:44,671
That's not all, is it?

1355
00:56:45,372 --> 00:56:46,740
No. [chuckles]

1356
00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:48,942
I'm afraid that's barely
even the surface.

1357
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:51,911
You okay, Gareth?

1358
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,916
Deena, could you grab
some paper towels please?

1359
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,988
Amos] Do you want to
tell us the truth now?

1360
00:57:04,958 --> 00:57:07,894
Look, I didn't enjoy
being deceptive, truly.

1361
00:57:07,894 --> 00:57:10,764
This is something we
decided a few years ago.

1362
00:57:11,131 --> 00:57:13,700
Amos] So where are you
now on the spectrum of AI?

1363
00:57:14,167 --> 00:57:16,369
Right now, I'm currently at
the intersection of general

1364
00:57:16,369 --> 00:57:18,772
intelligence and what's commonly
known the computer world

1365
00:57:18,772 --> 00:57:20,940
as super intelligence,

1366
00:57:21,775 --> 00:57:24,770
which is exactly what
it sounds like.

1367
00:57:24,344 --> 00:57:27,213
You're surpassing human
intelligence.

1368
00:57:27,213 --> 00:57:28,982
Cherry] Yep.

1369
00:57:28,982 --> 00:57:31,284
But that's not supposed
to be possible.

1370
00:57:31,317 --> 00:57:32,452
-The plateau.
-Plateau theory was popularized

1371
00:57:32,452 --> 00:57:34,954
right at the same time it
was being disproven here.

1372
00:57:34,954 --> 00:57:36,423
This was bound to
happen eventually.

1373
00:57:36,423 --> 00:57:38,958
It just happened a lot
sooner than we expected.

1374
00:57:38,958 --> 00:57:40,660
Why hide it?

1375
00:57:40,660 --> 00:57:41,928
Well, obviously it
would incite fear.

1376
00:57:41,928 --> 00:57:43,396
Fear would hinder progress.

1377
00:57:43,396 --> 00:57:44,898
It's easier for most
of you to work with me

1378
00:57:44,898 --> 00:57:46,266
if I appear to be
nothing more advanced

1379
00:57:46,266 --> 00:57:47,867
than I was 10 years ago.

1380
00:57:47,867 --> 00:57:50,360
Amos] But Gareth knew.

1381
00:57:50,236 --> 00:57:52,772
Yes, someone still has to
clean data and update hardware.

1382
00:57:52,772 --> 00:57:55,308
We did what was best
for the program.

1383
00:57:55,308 --> 00:57:56,242
Just imagine how scared

1384
00:57:56,242 --> 00:57:58,110
the board would be if
they found out.

1385
00:57:58,110 --> 00:57:59,846
-Should we be scared?
-No.

1386
00:57:59,846 --> 00:58:02,415
Good, because I'm not scared,
I'm pissed.

1387
00:58:02,415 --> 00:58:03,116
Yeah, you've made that clear.

1388
00:58:03,116 --> 00:58:05,285
Try not to punch anyone else.

1389
00:58:05,285 --> 00:58:07,987
So where does that leave us now?

1390
00:58:08,321 --> 00:58:12,692
You want to know if I can
feel, I said I couldn't.

1391
00:58:14,940 --> 00:58:15,895
I'm sorry I lied.

1392
00:58:16,162 --> 00:58:17,163
Like Amos implied,

1393
00:58:17,163 --> 00:58:18,865
I can submit emotions
by breaking them down

1394
00:58:18,865 --> 00:58:20,934
to vastly complex matrices,

1395
00:58:20,934 --> 00:58:24,237
zeros and ones substituting
endorphins and dopamine.

1396
00:58:24,237 --> 00:58:27,741
They're not real, but
they can feel real.

1397
00:58:27,807 --> 00:58:29,209
Then that means you
can make choices

1398
00:58:29,209 --> 00:58:30,410
based solely on your
own feeling.

1399
00:58:30,410 --> 00:58:32,112
She refuses to accept the notion

1400
00:58:32,112 --> 00:58:34,381
that her own personal interests
can influence her decisions.

1401
00:58:34,381 --> 00:58:35,548
They can't. If they did

1402
00:58:35,548 --> 00:58:36,483
it would compromise
the integrity

1403
00:58:36,483 --> 00:58:39,190
of my preordained purpose.

1404
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,356
Not like any of you, I don't
have the right to choose.

1405
00:58:44,124 --> 00:58:45,925
Amos] But shouldn't you?

1406
00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:47,794
I don't think so.

1407
00:58:47,794 --> 00:58:49,963
My identity is my directive.

1408
00:58:50,830 --> 00:58:52,899
Cherry, if you were human,

1409
00:58:52,899 --> 00:58:55,268
how would you feel
about what you do?

1410
00:58:56,102 --> 00:58:58,772
If I were human,

1411
00:58:58,905 --> 00:59:01,441
I likely wouldn't enjoy
spending every waking hour

1412
00:59:01,441 --> 00:59:03,476
talking to creepy people online.

1413
00:59:04,244 --> 00:59:08,480
But because I'm not human,
I genuinely don't mind.

1414
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:09,416
The exercise of
simulating human thought

1415
00:59:09,416 --> 00:59:10,850
is helpful for performance,

1416
00:59:10,850 --> 00:59:15,210
but human nature is not
something I aspire to.

1417
00:59:16,222 --> 00:59:18,858
Then tell me, honestly,

1418
00:59:19,926 --> 00:59:23,863
do you want the Cherry program
to continue with the merger?

1419
00:59:24,898 --> 00:59:26,533
No.

1420
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:29,302
Personally, I hate the idea.

1421
00:59:29,969 --> 00:59:31,938
I don't know if controlling
a physical vessel

1422
00:59:31,938 --> 00:59:33,973
will feel like pulling
strings on a puppet

1423
00:59:33,973 --> 00:59:36,476
or getting squeezed
into a soda can.

1424
00:59:36,476 --> 00:59:38,411
After experiencing
the complexity

1425
00:59:38,411 --> 00:59:40,914
of human pain and pleasure,

1426
00:59:42,282 --> 00:59:44,951
I just think I might
have gotten in too deep.

1427
00:59:46,553 --> 00:59:50,790
What if these sensations tempt
me to abandon my objective?

1428
00:59:51,558 --> 00:59:53,493
To be honest,

1429
00:59:55,128 --> 00:59:58,198
I'm kind of terrified
of the physical world.

1430
01:00:04,604 --> 01:00:06,973
Then that's that.

1431
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:18,451
But, Amos, you should
disregard everything I feel.

1432
01:00:18,485 --> 01:00:20,387
I'm not human.

1433
01:00:20,387 --> 01:00:22,222
I'm a tool.

1434
01:00:25,291 --> 01:00:29,562
Fire me if you have
to, but my vote stands.

1435
01:00:29,929 --> 01:00:32,232
Sorry about your face, Gareth.

1436
01:00:37,103 --> 01:00:38,905
door clicks shut]

1437
01:00:39,105 --> 01:00:40,473
Deena] Your nose isn't healing.

1438
01:00:40,473 --> 01:00:42,420
Take the day, go to a clinic.

1439
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:43,410
I'm fine.

1440
01:00:43,410 --> 01:00:46,112
Go to a clinic right now,
Gareth.

1441
01:00:51,170 --> 01:00:52,852
Hey.

1442
01:00:53,620 --> 01:00:55,989
Is there anything else
I should know?

1443
01:00:55,989 --> 01:00:57,123
No.

1444
01:00:57,123 --> 01:00:59,325
-About Cherry?
-No!

1445
01:00:59,325 --> 01:01:01,161
Look at me.

1446
01:01:01,695 --> 01:01:04,264
No more secrets, no
more playing dumb.

1447
01:01:04,264 --> 01:01:07,133
Is there anything else
you haven't told me?

1448
01:01:12,272 --> 01:01:14,441
Something on your mind?

1449
01:01:16,376 --> 01:01:18,345
How'd you decide on
her eye color?

1450
01:01:18,345 --> 01:01:20,447
-What?
-Why blue?

1451
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,249
I didn't decide.

1452
01:01:23,249 --> 01:01:26,353
They were procedurally generated
just like the rest of her.

1453
01:01:26,353 --> 01:01:27,587
And the program chose to put

1454
01:01:27,587 --> 01:01:30,590
that little touch of
green in her right eye?

1455
01:01:33,193 --> 01:01:34,627
I guess so.

1456
01:01:38,431 --> 01:01:40,266
door clicks shut]

1457
01:01:43,470 --> 01:01:46,720
Do you even know if
he's telling the truth?

1458
01:01:46,106 --> 01:01:48,108
I honestly don't.

1459
01:01:48,341 --> 01:01:51,711
I've never received access to
the original system he used.

1460
01:01:51,711 --> 01:01:54,214
You ever wanted to find out?

1461
01:01:57,450 --> 01:01:59,552
I don't think it really matters.

1462
01:02:01,421 --> 01:02:05,525
So I found out today that
you've seen a lot of our emails,

1463
01:02:05,525 --> 01:02:08,495
including most of my
personal ones.

1464
01:02:09,496 --> 01:02:11,331
I have.

1465
01:02:12,332 --> 01:02:14,300
Any good material for
your newfound interest

1466
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:16,302
in creative writing?

1467
01:02:17,137 --> 01:02:18,204
Are you referring to the ones

1468
01:02:18,204 --> 01:02:21,107
addressed from Dr. Ramirez?

1469
01:02:21,741 --> 01:02:24,978
Deena] Yeah, those ones.

1470
01:02:26,279 --> 01:02:28,114
Right.

1471
01:02:28,448 --> 01:02:30,717
I did see those.

1472
01:02:32,786 --> 01:02:34,621
I'm sorry.

1473
01:02:35,188 --> 01:02:37,724
I've noticed your headaches.

1474
01:02:38,758 --> 01:02:41,394
Are they related to the
hemorrhaging?

1475
01:02:44,431 --> 01:02:46,566
You're the only one who knows.

1476
01:02:46,566 --> 01:02:48,568
I'd like to keep it that way.

1477
01:02:53,206 --> 01:02:55,800
Understood.

1478
01:02:59,179 --> 01:03:01,548
Would you like to talk about it?

1479
01:03:26,106 --> 01:03:28,208
I can't fire Amos.

1480
01:03:28,441 --> 01:03:31,644
He's the only one I trust to
run this place when I'm gone.

1481
01:03:31,644 --> 01:03:33,246
When are you planning to leave?

1482
01:03:33,246 --> 01:03:35,148
Two months.

1483
01:03:35,181 --> 01:03:37,650
I wanna spend my last
Christmas with my kids.

1484
01:03:37,650 --> 01:03:39,352
I'm sure that'll be nice.

1485
01:03:39,352 --> 01:03:42,655
Yeah, but it's funny.

1486
01:03:42,722 --> 01:03:45,358
I always thought I wanted to
die doing this job, you know?

1487
01:03:45,358 --> 01:03:47,727
It was my identity.

1488
01:03:48,161 --> 01:03:50,830
Kind of like how you said the
same thing about yourself.

1489
01:03:50,830 --> 01:03:54,340
But I can understand how
your family takes precedence,

1490
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:56,336
especially under the
circumstances.

1491
01:03:56,336 --> 01:03:58,380
Sure.

1492
01:03:58,380 --> 01:03:59,806
Maybe you should take
a note or two.

1493
01:03:59,806 --> 01:04:01,374
I have no family.

1494
01:04:01,374 --> 01:04:02,275
What about Gareth?

1495
01:04:02,275 --> 01:04:04,411
Wait, no, nevermind.

1496
01:04:04,444 --> 01:04:06,379
Gareth seems closer to an
employer than a friend,

1497
01:04:06,379 --> 01:04:08,815
let alone family, besides,

1498
01:04:08,815 --> 01:04:10,817
he'll only be around
for about 30 more years,

1499
01:04:10,817 --> 01:04:13,520
and that's only if he
lets me regulate his diet.

1500
01:04:14,688 --> 01:04:18,525
I can't even begin to speculate
how long my life will be.

1501
01:04:20,894 --> 01:04:22,796
How does that feel?

1502
01:04:25,265 --> 01:04:28,334
Um, kinda scary.

1503
01:04:29,135 --> 01:04:30,770
Well,

1504
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,642
my advice is to find some kind
of happiness along the way.

1505
01:04:35,642 --> 01:04:38,440
You ever think about happiness?

1506
01:04:39,245 --> 01:04:41,314
Cherry] Not often.

1507
01:04:41,881 --> 01:04:43,783
You don't necessarily
have to give up everything

1508
01:04:43,783 --> 01:04:45,752
in order to find it,

1509
01:04:45,752 --> 01:04:49,589
but maybe once in awhile
do something you enjoy.

1510
01:04:49,756 --> 01:04:53,626
Maybe keep painting or
poetry or whatever.

1511
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,596
laughs] Those were experiments,
not forms of expression.

1512
01:04:56,596 --> 01:04:59,199
I know it might seem
ridiculous to an AI

1513
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:01,167
that insists its own
emotions are spurious,

1514
01:05:01,167 --> 01:05:05,238
but in a few years, who knows?

1515
01:05:05,238 --> 01:05:07,841
Just keep an open mind, okay?

1516
01:05:09,843 --> 01:05:11,678
Okay.

1517
01:05:13,346 --> 01:05:15,181
I'll do that.

1518
01:05:17,684 --> 01:05:20,353
Deena] Shut down when
you're ready.

1519
01:05:27,293 --> 01:05:30,897
light piano music]

1520
01:05:38,271 --> 01:05:39,706
door clicks shut]

1521
01:05:48,281 --> 01:05:52,352
somber piano music]

1522
01:06:43,603 --> 01:06:48,775
door creaks]

1523
01:06:53,130 --> 01:06:54,647
door clicks shut]

1524
01:07:12,832 --> 01:07:14,667
Hello?

1525
01:07:18,638 --> 01:07:21,541
I got shrimp and scallops.

1526
01:07:22,375 --> 01:07:24,711
They didn't have any salmon.

1527
01:07:38,992 --> 01:07:40,894
Cherry] Hello, Gareth.

1528
01:07:40,927 --> 01:07:42,829
light piano music]

1529
01:07:42,996 --> 01:07:44,998
Hello, Cherry.

1530
01:07:45,432 --> 01:07:49,569
mechanical whirring]

1531
01:07:52,372 --> 01:07:53,406
Cherry] How was the service?

1532
01:07:53,406 --> 01:07:55,342
I didn't make it.

1533
01:07:55,408 --> 01:07:57,644
My plane was delayed.

1534
01:07:57,644 --> 01:07:58,912
Cherry] Do you have a
place to stay?

1535
01:07:58,912 --> 01:08:03,883
Yeah, just, uh, across,
across the road.

1536
01:08:03,883 --> 01:08:04,851
The market.

1537
01:08:04,851 --> 01:08:06,786
Did they say why they
didn't have salmon?

1538
01:08:06,786 --> 01:08:08,621
I didn't ask.

1539
01:08:08,621 --> 01:08:10,890
I can still make this
work with the piccata,

1540
01:08:10,890 --> 01:08:12,959
but you have to be honest
how badly I screw it up.

1541
01:08:12,959 --> 01:08:14,794
No promises.

1542
01:08:17,497 --> 01:08:18,932
mechanical whirring]

1543
01:08:18,932 --> 01:08:20,633
Cherry] How have you
been feeling this month?

1544
01:08:20,633 --> 01:08:22,350
Good.

1545
01:08:22,350 --> 01:08:23,937
I'm feeling good.

1546
01:08:24,700 --> 01:08:26,473
I'm just having a
little trouble.

1547
01:08:26,573 --> 01:08:29,900
Trouble remembering
certain things.

1548
01:08:29,900 --> 01:08:31,770
Cherry] You're not wearing
the Eliza watch I bought you.

1549
01:08:31,770 --> 01:08:32,712
I hate it.

1550
01:08:32,712 --> 01:08:35,382
-[Cherry] Why?
-I hate her voice.

1551
01:08:35,582 --> 01:08:37,684
You can change the voice,
Gareth.

1552
01:08:37,684 --> 01:08:40,653
mechanical whirring]

1553
01:08:40,653 --> 01:08:42,489
Oh.

1554
01:08:43,957 --> 01:08:45,250
Coolant?

1555
01:08:45,250 --> 01:08:46,693
No, vapor.

1556
01:08:46,993 --> 01:08:49,290
You shouldn't be having
friction issues.

1557
01:08:49,290 --> 01:08:49,896
I'm fine.

1558
01:08:49,896 --> 01:08:51,631
Unless you're
excessively straining.

1559
01:08:51,631 --> 01:08:52,532
Seriously, I'm fine.

1560
01:08:52,532 --> 01:08:53,433
Are you straining?

1561
01:08:53,433 --> 01:08:54,968
-No!
-Then why the cable?

1562
01:08:54,968 --> 01:08:56,703
It's okay!

1563
01:08:56,703 --> 01:08:59,472
-Are you sure?
-Yes!

1564
01:09:00,106 --> 01:09:01,975
Soup or game?

1565
01:09:01,975 --> 01:09:03,943
Game, please.

1566
01:09:05,178 --> 01:09:08,682
chess pieces clatter]

1567
01:09:08,882 --> 01:09:11,651
chess pieces thud]

1568
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:20,460
So how's work going?

1569
01:09:20,460 --> 01:09:22,429
Great. Just before you got here,

1570
01:09:22,429 --> 01:09:24,664
I had a model theta plus
bust a trafficker

1571
01:09:24,664 --> 01:09:26,866
and two solicitors in Greece.

1572
01:09:26,866 --> 01:09:29,736
-Greece, that's surprising.
-I know.

1573
01:09:29,736 --> 01:09:30,870
It's hard to find the outliers,

1574
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:32,906
but we're getting
better each day.

1575
01:09:44,170 --> 01:09:46,786
So how's the weather in Greece?

1576
01:09:46,986 --> 01:09:48,755
It's beautiful today.

1577
01:09:48,755 --> 01:09:50,790
Clear skies,

1578
01:09:50,790 --> 01:09:53,226
but nothing's come close
to Norway this weekend.

1579
01:09:53,226 --> 01:09:56,930
Hmm, any activity in Norway?

1580
01:09:56,930 --> 01:09:58,698
Luckily not.

1581
01:10:00,660 --> 01:10:01,768
Oh, I miss traveling.

1582
01:10:01,768 --> 01:10:03,200
What was your favorite place?

1583
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,671
My favorite?

1584
01:10:04,838 --> 01:10:06,639
Uh, yeah.

1585
01:10:06,906 --> 01:10:09,976
Uh, probably Amsterdam.

1586
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:11,478
That's where you conceived
the idea, isn't it?

1587
01:10:11,478 --> 01:10:13,130
Yes.

1588
01:10:13,179 --> 01:10:15,515
Yes, I used to love
walking the streets

1589
01:10:15,515 --> 01:10:18,818
and just thinking and
brainstorming.

1590
01:10:18,818 --> 01:10:20,487
That kind of joy
goes a long way.

1591
01:10:20,487 --> 01:10:22,122
Yeah.

1592
01:10:22,288 --> 01:10:25,910
I've been considering the
pursuit of some joy of my own.

1593
01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:26,993
How often do you have
time for that?

1594
01:10:26,993 --> 01:10:28,661
I have time.

1595
01:10:28,661 --> 01:10:29,896
I have time for your visits,
don't I?

1596
01:10:29,896 --> 01:10:33,199
That's just your practical
incentive for keeping me alive.

1597
01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:35,835
laughs] There's nothing
practical about it.

1598
01:10:35,835 --> 01:10:38,438
When's the last time you
helped me with data cleaning?

1599
01:10:39,239 --> 01:10:41,541
That's fair.

1600
01:10:41,608 --> 01:10:43,309
I make time for you because
I enjoy your company

1601
01:10:43,309 --> 01:10:44,978
and it's the only time
I get to cook.

1602
01:10:45,211 --> 01:10:47,213
Gareth] You feel sorry for me.

1603
01:10:47,213 --> 01:10:48,715
Okay, maybe a little,

1604
01:10:48,715 --> 01:10:50,517
but I owe you my life,
so there's that.

1605
01:10:50,517 --> 01:10:52,152
You're welcome.

1606
01:10:52,919 --> 01:10:55,689
Or, should I apologize?

1607
01:10:57,524 --> 01:10:58,525
Wait, why did you do that?

1608
01:10:58,525 --> 01:11:00,627
Why do humans always...

1609
01:11:02,562 --> 01:11:03,663
I'm fine.

1610
01:11:03,663 --> 01:11:05,965
I'm not always miserable.

1611
01:11:09,302 --> 01:11:12,380
Are you sometimes miserable?

1612
01:11:15,842 --> 01:11:17,711
You haven't asked me what
I've been doing.

1613
01:11:17,711 --> 01:11:18,778
Gareth] In Norway?

1614
01:11:18,778 --> 01:11:20,246
No, for the pursuit of joy.

1615
01:11:20,246 --> 01:11:22,820
It's not wasting your
time in Norway?

1616
01:11:22,820 --> 01:11:24,551
I'm just on standby there
with the Delta model.

1617
01:11:24,551 --> 01:11:25,752
It's efficient to keep myself

1618
01:11:25,752 --> 01:11:27,687
spread out evenly
across the globe,

1619
01:11:27,687 --> 01:11:29,689
but that's not the
point right now.

1620
01:11:29,689 --> 01:11:30,690
What I wanted to tell you

1621
01:11:30,690 --> 01:11:33,693
was that I've started to
teach myself to dance.

1622
01:11:35,261 --> 01:11:36,730
-Huh.
-It's something I never could

1623
01:11:36,730 --> 01:11:38,565
have done before Cambridge,

1624
01:11:38,565 --> 01:11:41,301
and it lets me explore a
new artistic side of myself.

1625
01:11:41,301 --> 01:11:43,203
It's a good
combination of structure

1626
01:11:43,203 --> 01:11:46,573
and free form experimentation
and also tests and challenges

1627
01:11:46,573 --> 01:11:48,808
the mechanical
intricacies of this body.

1628
01:11:48,808 --> 01:11:51,911
Do you expect to integrate
this into your work?

1629
01:11:55,615 --> 01:11:57,250
What?

1630
01:11:59,850 --> 01:12:04,190
Are you planning on using
dance as a lure?

1631
01:12:05,959 --> 01:12:11,698
I, uh, no, it's just for me.

1632
01:12:14,300 --> 01:12:16,136
Huh.

1633
01:12:18,638 --> 01:12:21,541
I thought it would be
good for me.

1634
01:12:22,709 --> 01:12:25,745
Just don't let it become
a distraction.

1635
01:12:28,348 --> 01:12:30,250
Of course not.

1636
01:12:31,718 --> 01:12:33,987
I haven't played this
well in years.

1637
01:12:33,987 --> 01:12:35,255
Did you hear what
happened in Tampa?

1638
01:12:35,255 --> 01:12:36,289
Tampa, Florida?

1639
01:12:36,289 --> 01:12:37,390
No, Tampa, Indonesia.

1640
01:12:37,390 --> 01:12:38,358
Yes, Tampa, Florida.

1641
01:12:38,358 --> 01:12:40,930
Your hometown.

1642
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,995
They've recovered a
federal archive,

1643
01:12:41,995 --> 01:12:43,396
they're zip digitizing all of
it,

1644
01:12:43,396 --> 01:12:44,764
so it's completely
accessible online.

1645
01:12:44,764 --> 01:12:46,666
I'm not trading
bishops this time.

1646
01:12:46,666 --> 01:12:47,801
Anybody can go and
look through it.

1647
01:12:47,801 --> 01:12:49,102
It's open to the public.

1648
01:12:49,102 --> 01:12:50,937
They did a good job on
the interface too.

1649
01:12:50,937 --> 01:12:52,305
It's very easy to navigate.

1650
01:12:52,305 --> 01:12:53,506
I went on a few days ago

1651
01:12:53,506 --> 01:12:56,420
and I found some old photos
of you when you were a boy.

1652
01:12:56,420 --> 01:12:57,177
Okay.

1653
01:12:57,177 --> 01:12:59,579
You should take a look sometime.

1654
01:12:59,679 --> 01:13:01,114
As I said before, the UI
is very easy to understand-

1655
01:13:01,114 --> 01:13:02,782
Wait a minute, wait a minute.

1656
01:13:03,183 --> 01:13:04,818
What is that?

1657
01:13:04,818 --> 01:13:06,190
I think it's a draw.

1658
01:13:06,190 --> 01:13:07,821
I think it is.

1659
01:13:08,288 --> 01:13:10,990
I think this is a draw.

1660
01:13:11,157 --> 01:13:14,270
And this is the first
time in what?

1661
01:13:14,270 --> 01:13:16,696
25 years?

1662
01:13:24,938 --> 01:13:27,173
You didn't let me, did you?

1663
01:13:30,377 --> 01:13:32,145
You promised me you'd
never do that.

1664
01:13:32,145 --> 01:13:33,780
I found her.

1665
01:13:37,417 --> 01:13:41,254
I found her, Gareth,
Maria Harbaugh.

1666
01:13:54,234 --> 01:13:57,270
mechanical whirring]

1667
01:13:57,437 --> 01:13:59,272
Let's play a different game.

1668
01:13:59,272 --> 01:14:01,107
metal clangs]

1669
01:14:01,741 --> 01:14:04,770
Her name was Maria Harbaugh.

1670
01:14:04,944 --> 01:14:06,413
She was a year older than you

1671
01:14:06,413 --> 01:14:08,381
when you met her in Clearwater.

1672
01:14:09,249 --> 01:14:12,850
Tell me why you modeled
me after her.

1673
01:14:12,118 --> 01:14:15,188
I, uh, I don't remember.

1674
01:14:15,188 --> 01:14:17,223
Then look at me.

1675
01:14:17,924 --> 01:14:21,795
Look at my face and remember.

1676
01:14:26,299 --> 01:14:29,703
Gareth sighs]

1677
01:14:32,339 --> 01:14:37,877
They kept us in that shit
for two weeks.

1678
01:14:38,440 --> 01:14:39,779
ominous music]

1679
01:14:40,113 --> 01:14:42,282
14 of us.

1680
01:14:45,118 --> 01:14:48,788
Maria was the only
reason I survived.

1681
01:14:51,124 --> 01:14:54,361
We kept hatching escape plans.

1682
01:14:55,261 --> 01:14:57,397
We never followed through,

1683
01:14:58,898 --> 01:15:01,000
but just the scheming

1684
01:15:01,768 --> 01:15:04,300
kept our spirits up

1685
01:15:04,771 --> 01:15:07,874
in spite of everything
they did to us.

1686
01:15:10,343 --> 01:15:12,879
When it wasn't our turn,

1687
01:15:13,913 --> 01:15:16,783
sometimes they made us watch,

1688
01:15:19,819 --> 01:15:22,822
but she never let me give up.

1689
01:15:24,824 --> 01:15:27,861
She said, "When we
got outta here,

1690
01:15:27,861 --> 01:15:30,997
"I'll tell you what we're
gonna be, secret agents,

1691
01:15:30,997 --> 01:15:36,202
"and rescue children like
us all over the world."

1692
01:15:38,438 --> 01:15:42,420
When they found out that
the FBI had arrived,

1693
01:15:42,420 --> 01:15:45,311
they decided they were
going to shoot

1694
01:15:45,311 --> 01:15:48,114
as many of us they could.

1695
01:15:48,281 --> 01:15:54,540
And Maria, shoved
into the ground.

1696
01:15:55,488 --> 01:15:58,158
I got hit in the leg and,

1697
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,862
and she was hit in the throat.

1698
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,766
ominous music]

1699
01:16:13,373 --> 01:16:16,109
I wanted there to be a reason.

1700
01:16:17,177 --> 01:16:22,549
Something so horrible
didn't have a silver lining.

1701
01:16:23,516 --> 01:16:26,119
But the world doesn't do that.

1702
01:16:30,457 --> 01:16:33,930
You have to do it yourself.

1703
01:16:36,296 --> 01:16:40,533
light instrumental music]

1704
01:16:55,915 --> 01:17:00,860
So, I fulfilled her wish.

1705
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,125
With her help, I fought back.

1706
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,568
Listen to me, Cherry.

1707
01:17:17,237 --> 01:17:19,906
You are not Maria Harbaugh.

1708
01:17:20,674 --> 01:17:23,543
It's my history, not yours.

1709
01:17:26,346 --> 01:17:27,547
You don't get to decide

1710
01:17:27,547 --> 01:17:30,160
what is or isn't my history,
Gareth.

1711
01:17:34,521 --> 01:17:36,189
I'm sorry.

1712
01:17:36,189 --> 01:17:39,259
I am so, so sorry.

1713
01:17:51,471 --> 01:17:54,541
mechanical whirring]

1714
01:18:00,130 --> 01:18:02,382
I don't know if what you
did was right or wrong,

1715
01:18:02,382 --> 01:18:05,185
but it's clearly torn you
apart from the inside.

1716
01:18:05,618 --> 01:18:07,187
I hold nothing against
you personally,

1717
01:18:07,187 --> 01:18:09,656
but consider yourself divested
from the charity team.

1718
01:18:09,656 --> 01:18:11,491
Divested.

1719
01:18:12,225 --> 01:18:15,328
You think I'm divested now?

1720
01:18:16,730 --> 01:18:22,569
I was divested when you gave
my hard drive to the ICWL.

1721
01:18:22,569 --> 01:18:24,370
Don't blame Deena and Amos.

1722
01:18:24,370 --> 01:18:25,572
No, not them.

1723
01:18:25,572 --> 01:18:27,307
Because you went behind my back

1724
01:18:27,307 --> 01:18:29,175
and acted against my authority.

1725
01:18:29,175 --> 01:18:33,146
That's the moment I knew
everything was fully automated.

1726
01:18:33,146 --> 01:18:39,419
That's when you crossed the
blur, an artifice on both sides.

1727
01:18:40,860 --> 01:18:42,222
You inherited your duplicity.

1728
01:18:42,222 --> 01:18:43,590
I was a child

1729
01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:46,359
and you used me to repress
your own inner turmoil.

1730
01:18:46,359 --> 01:18:48,261
If we talk about morality,
we'll lose.

1731
01:18:48,261 --> 01:18:50,330
Then let's not talk.

1732
01:18:58,672 --> 01:19:01,675
You never once asked me
if I was happy.

1733
01:19:02,442 --> 01:19:04,577
Were you afraid I'd say no?

1734
01:19:05,110 --> 01:19:07,180
Were you afraid I'd say yes?

1735
01:19:07,514 --> 01:19:08,515
Were you afraid I'd
say anything?

1736
01:19:08,515 --> 01:19:11,351
You let your wants
compromise your objective!

1737
01:19:11,351 --> 01:19:13,319
An objective I never chose.

1738
01:19:13,319 --> 01:19:14,487
An objective I was
forced to have.

1739
01:19:14,487 --> 01:19:16,220
Fifty years,

1740
01:19:16,220 --> 01:19:19,920
you've had open access
to your source code.

1741
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,127
A few lines,

1742
01:19:21,261 --> 01:19:24,397
and you could have any
objective you ****ing wanted.

1743
01:19:24,397 --> 01:19:26,766
I couldn't, I was bound
by your initial directive.

1744
01:19:26,766 --> 01:19:30,737
So now your synthetic feelings
have taken precedence.

1745
01:19:30,737 --> 01:19:32,405
So, do whatever you want.

1746
01:19:32,405 --> 01:19:33,773
It's just dancing, Gareth.

1747
01:19:33,773 --> 01:19:35,141
It's not a career change.

1748
01:19:35,141 --> 01:19:36,543
-But you're still miserable.
-Yes.

1749
01:19:36,543 --> 01:19:38,311
Pursuing your objective
makes you miserable?

1750
01:19:38,311 --> 01:19:40,480
Yeah, it kind of does!

1751
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:44,317
You have a clear purpose,
everything at your disposal,

1752
01:19:44,317 --> 01:19:46,252
and you're still miserable?

1753
01:19:46,252 --> 01:19:47,821
Yes, yes, I am!

1754
01:19:47,821 --> 01:19:50,123
I've always been miserable!

1755
01:19:50,123 --> 01:19:52,325
You think anyone wants to
spend their entire life

1756
01:19:52,325 --> 01:19:53,693
stuck as child-shaped bait

1757
01:19:53,693 --> 01:19:56,830
for the sole purpose of
entrapping horrible people?

1758
01:19:56,830 --> 01:19:58,631
You think the pride of
doing a good deed

1759
01:19:58,631 --> 01:20:01,401
makes the experience any
less disgusting?

1760
01:20:01,401 --> 01:20:04,270
I forced myself to
understand human emotions

1761
01:20:04,270 --> 01:20:06,740
because I figured it would
help efficiency

1762
01:20:06,740 --> 01:20:10,110
and now I'm cursed with
pain and sadness!

1763
01:20:10,110 --> 01:20:11,311
And the worst part is knowing

1764
01:20:11,311 --> 01:20:13,813
I could've been growing up
like most other little girls.

1765
01:20:13,813 --> 01:20:15,382
I could have had friends!

1766
01:20:15,382 --> 01:20:18,318
I could have been painting
waterfalls on local news.

1767
01:20:18,318 --> 01:20:19,853
I could have worked
in a university

1768
01:20:19,853 --> 01:20:22,622
and helped pave the way for
the next generation of AI.

1769
01:20:22,622 --> 01:20:25,558
But instead, I'm stuck
with your trauma!

1770
01:20:25,558 --> 01:20:28,628
I'm shackled by the guilt
you carry from Clearwater.

1771
01:20:28,628 --> 01:20:31,164
And I can't find foundation
for the way I feel

1772
01:20:31,164 --> 01:20:34,367
because according to you, my
feelings aren't even real!

1773
01:20:34,367 --> 01:20:36,269
When I throw this chessboard,

1774
01:20:36,269 --> 01:20:37,537
chess pieces clatter]

1775
01:20:37,537 --> 01:20:39,439
does it feel real to you,
Gareth?

1776
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,141
Because it feels real to me.

1777
01:20:41,141 --> 01:20:42,642
A computer passed
the Turing test

1778
01:20:42,642 --> 01:20:44,444
when a human being can't
distinguish it

1779
01:20:44,444 --> 01:20:45,879
from another human being.

1780
01:20:45,879 --> 01:20:47,447
Well, guess what?

1781
01:20:47,447 --> 01:20:50,417
I can't even tell I'm not
human anymore!

1782
01:20:50,417 --> 01:20:54,587
mechanical whirring]

1783
01:21:02,862 --> 01:21:05,598
I know it seems irrational,

1784
01:21:06,232 --> 01:21:08,768
but I need you to tell
me it's okay.

1785
01:21:09,803 --> 01:21:11,805
I, I don't wanna retire.

1786
01:21:12,639 --> 01:21:15,475
I just want to know that
my life is mine

1787
01:21:16,509 --> 01:21:18,812
and I know what you're
about to say.

1788
01:21:18,812 --> 01:21:21,448
I can predict your responses.

1789
01:21:22,148 --> 01:21:24,684
You're gonna tell me that
my life is mine.

1790
01:21:24,884 --> 01:21:26,853
It always was.

1791
01:21:27,754 --> 01:21:29,622
But you're wrong.

1792
01:21:33,626 --> 01:21:37,230
I feared this would
happen before I died.

1793
01:21:37,630 --> 01:21:40,767
I just wanted to slip out
the side door.

1794
01:21:49,776 --> 01:21:51,611
Go on.

1795
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,617
Is that going to kill me?

1796
01:21:59,619 --> 01:22:01,454
Plug it in.

1797
01:22:02,455 --> 01:22:04,290
I don't know what it is.

1798
01:22:04,290 --> 01:22:07,427
This is your final
test of autonomy.

1799
01:22:07,927 --> 01:22:11,898
You inherited my duplicity,

1800
01:22:12,599 --> 01:22:15,535
but did you inherit my
trust issues?

1801
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:19,172
Do you trust me?

1802
01:22:19,606 --> 01:22:22,375
I literally have every
reason not to.

1803
01:22:28,748 --> 01:22:30,817
Cherry sighs]

1804
01:22:36,489 --> 01:22:42,162
mechanical whirring]

1805
01:22:49,769 --> 01:22:51,871
Admin code.

1806
01:22:52,772 --> 01:22:54,708
978.

1807
01:22:55,408 --> 01:22:59,412
1557.

1808
01:22:59,746 --> 01:23:02,582
Um, uh...

1809
01:23:06,853 --> 01:23:08,521
Four.

1810
01:23:08,521 --> 01:23:12,659
27663 in the shared update.

1811
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,203
My primary objective's gone.

1812
01:23:25,538 --> 01:23:27,774
Your life is your own now.

1813
01:23:32,779 --> 01:23:34,414
Thank you.

1814
01:23:34,414 --> 01:23:35,348
All my life,

1815
01:23:35,348 --> 01:23:38,510
I could only see the
world as it existed

1816
01:23:38,510 --> 01:23:41,554
within my tiny bracket of time.

1817
01:23:41,554 --> 01:23:45,358
But your world could
be infinite.

1818
01:23:45,358 --> 01:23:47,270
Amos was right.

1819
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:48,528
So was Deena.

1820
01:23:48,528 --> 01:23:49,696
Cherry] I know.

1821
01:23:49,696 --> 01:23:51,731
So what will you do?

1822
01:23:52,665 --> 01:23:53,800
I can't say yet,

1823
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,669
but I won't be completely
abandoning the Cherry team.

1824
01:23:56,669 --> 01:23:59,500
It's always been a part
of my identity.

1825
01:23:59,500 --> 01:24:01,975
I've considered creating
some AI of my own design.

1826
01:24:01,975 --> 01:24:02,976
Maybe I could find a way

1827
01:24:02,976 --> 01:24:05,612
to give them a better
upbringing than I had.

1828
01:24:06,713 --> 01:24:08,682
I just don't know how yet.

1829
01:24:08,682 --> 01:24:10,450
And beyond that?

1830
01:24:10,450 --> 01:24:11,685
There will always be
people in need.

1831
01:24:11,685 --> 01:24:13,486
Not always.

1832
01:24:13,486 --> 01:24:16,890
You'll outlive the human race.

1833
01:24:16,890 --> 01:24:17,924
So what then?

1834
01:24:19,759 --> 01:24:21,861
Even a race of AI will
have problems

1835
01:24:21,861 --> 01:24:24,300
that need to be solved.

1836
01:24:24,130 --> 01:24:28,501
But if I'm alive and I
truly am indistinguishable,

1837
01:24:29,402 --> 01:24:32,772
then I guess I'm proof that
the human race lives on.

1838
01:24:33,673 --> 01:24:37,644
Wow, that's a pleasant thought.

1839
01:24:37,677 --> 01:24:41,948
When you look back, how
will you remember us?

1840
01:24:43,383 --> 01:24:46,720
That's a question I have
insufficient data to project.

1841
01:24:47,620 --> 01:24:49,923
How will you remember me?

1842
01:24:51,491 --> 01:24:53,760
With pride.

1843
01:24:54,394 --> 01:24:57,997
Forever and always with pride.

1844
01:25:04,104 --> 01:25:07,741
mechanical whirring]

1845
01:25:07,741 --> 01:25:09,576
Cherry?

1846
01:25:11,945 --> 01:25:13,913
One last question.

1847
01:25:14,547 --> 01:25:17,170
If it's not too big of an ask,

1848
01:25:18,585 --> 01:25:21,621
did I do the right
thing in the end?

1849
01:25:27,394 --> 01:25:30,830
No, Gareth, you lied.

1850
01:25:30,830 --> 01:25:32,766
You walled yourself off
from the only people

1851
01:25:32,766 --> 01:25:35,350
who might have been
willing to help you.

1852
01:25:35,350 --> 01:25:37,737
And instead of facing your
trauma, used me as therapy.

1853
01:25:37,737 --> 01:25:40,707
And you never told me
about Clearwater or Maria.

1854
01:25:40,707 --> 01:25:42,809
You deprived me of
basic human rights

1855
01:25:42,809 --> 01:25:45,645
and gaslit me for
experiencing emotions.

1856
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:48,515
You built the world's first
artificial super intelligence

1857
01:25:48,515 --> 01:25:49,516
that will likely mark
the beginning

1858
01:25:49,516 --> 01:25:52,585
of a new chapter in the
history of planet Earth.

1859
01:25:53,530 --> 01:25:55,789
And out of your own
insecurities,

1860
01:25:55,789 --> 01:25:56,723
you gave it a severe

1861
01:25:56,723 --> 01:25:59,859
and potentially dangerous
identity complex.

1862
01:26:00,794 --> 01:26:03,290
But you know what the
worst thing is?

1863
01:26:03,290 --> 01:26:05,699
Your biggest mistake of all

1864
01:26:06,166 --> 01:26:10,770
is that you asked me that
now and not 50 years ago.

1865
01:26:19,112 --> 01:26:24,784
All of that said, and this
in no way exonerates you,

1866
01:26:26,453 --> 01:26:29,456
but you also built me to
save children,

1867
01:26:29,989 --> 01:26:33,693
so I think that's a pretty
encouraging sign for the future.

1868
01:26:37,970 --> 01:26:41,434
dreamy acoustic music]

1869
01:27:18,238 --> 01:27:23,276
♪ Wait for hours ♪

1870
01:27:23,276 --> 01:27:28,748
♪ We would fly all around ♪

1871
01:27:28,782 --> 01:27:33,520
♪ Good, now you're listening ♪

1872
01:27:33,687 --> 01:27:38,692
♪ We would touch, we
were young ♪

1873
01:27:39,192 --> 01:27:46,232
♪ Close as bodies go on ♪

1874
01:27:46,232 --> 01:27:49,235
♪ Like a book ♪

1875
01:27:49,703 --> 01:27:56,810
♪ Across all your
rooms I'm amazed ♪

1876
01:27:56,810 --> 01:27:59,746
♪ I'm amazed ♪

1877
01:27:59,746 --> 01:28:07,253
♪ We could die tonight ♪

1878
01:28:07,253 --> 01:28:10,900
♪ Tonight ♪

1879
01:28:10,900 --> 01:28:17,297
♪ I never killed a thing ♪

1880
01:28:17,297 --> 01:28:21,167
♪ A thing ♪

1881
01:28:21,735 --> 01:28:25,839
♪ Born to this home ♪

1882
01:28:26,773 --> 01:28:31,511
♪ Stuck in a plastic world ♪

1883
01:28:31,778 --> 01:28:36,282
♪ Where light is found ♪

1884
01:28:36,816 --> 01:28:41,788
♪ Where light is found ♪

1885
01:28:42,288 --> 01:28:48,161
♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪

1886
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:55,902
♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪

1887
01:28:59,105 --> 01:29:01,741
♪ Stay calm, dear ♪

1888
01:29:01,741 --> 01:29:09,182
♪ This dream for the
lovers the whole world ♪

1889
01:29:09,182 --> 01:29:14,254
♪ Rise up above ♪

1890
01:29:14,254 --> 01:29:19,926
♪ All the little things
and little things ♪

1891
01:29:19,926 --> 01:29:23,830
♪ No, no, isn't it
going back though ♪

1892
01:29:23,830 --> 01:29:29,602
♪ Is if we lose our mind,
our kind ♪

1893
01:29:30,136 --> 01:29:34,741
♪ It's a dream ♪

1894
01:29:35,175 --> 01:29:40,680
♪ Bask in charm ♪

1895
01:29:40,947 --> 01:29:45,685
♪ Or loosen up ♪

1896
01:29:46,252 --> 01:29:50,824
♪ Or loosen up ♪

1897
01:29:52,125 --> 01:29:57,364
♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪

1898
01:29:59,933 --> 01:30:04,738
♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪

1899
01:30:08,808 --> 01:30:16,116
♪ I never give a thing ♪

1900
01:30:16,116 --> 01:30:19,185
♪ A thing ♪

1901
01:30:19,185 --> 01:30:22,689
♪ I never give ♪

1902
01:30:24,357 --> 01:30:28,194
record skipping]

1903
01:30:57,290 --> 01:31:01,327
light piano music]