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Uh-huh. Yes, Lord.

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Yes, sir.

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I'm Willie Gary.

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All right, now, you know
my brother's Albert, he preaches here,

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but he asked me to come down and-and, uh,
share a bit with y'all.

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But I say like this, when God calls...

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you have to answer.

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- That's right. -Mm-hmm.
- And that's what it is.

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God was on my heart
and on my spirit today, -

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so that's why I came here to speak to you.

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I say to myself, what sustains us?

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What gives us a feeling of,
of a spirit that, where we,

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we feel safe?

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I believe it's home.

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If I could just get home.

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Even saying the word "home"
makes you feel a kind of way.

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- Where do I need to get?
- Home.

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- Where do we want to be?
- Home.

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- Home is where the heart is. Amen.
- Amen.

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- Hallelujah.
- Hallelujah.

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'Cause when you home, your family's there,

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everybody's there, you home.

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And where's home for us?

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Black church.

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Huh?

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Black church.

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I don't hear you. Where are we?

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Black church!

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Speak to it.

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In Black church, they don't say
that I fit the description.

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In Black church, they don't judge me
because of the color of my skin.

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In Black church,
they don't call me out my name.

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And if they do call me out my name,

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you know what they call me?

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- What do they call you?
- I said, do you know what they call me?

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- What do they call you?
- They call me a child of God.

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You are one. Yes, sir!

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- All right.
- Thank you.

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All right, now, doc.
Good to see you.

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Now, y'all take care, okay?

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- All right, now. All right.
- Have a good week.

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- All right, doc.
- All right.

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All right, you take care.

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That was a wonderful message,
you hear me? -Right.

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♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

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♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

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♪ Happy birthday, dear Grandpa ♪

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♪ Happy birthday to you. ♪

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Happy birthday, Grandpa.

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I made it just for you.

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Well, aren't I lucky?

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Let's have a look here.

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13 children, 24 grandchildren.

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I'd say you done good, Mr. O'Keefe.

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And you have done well...

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Mrs. O'Keefe.

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Very well indeed.

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Not one felon in the whole damn bunch.

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Are you... Hey.

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- Hmm?
- Hey, are you okay?

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- Yeah.
- Uh-huh. Yeah.

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I'm just checking in on you.

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I'm still allowed to do that.

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- Yes, you are. Yes, you are.
- That's good. Good to hear.

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I could not be happier with this day.

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The well-being
of this man's life depends on y'all.

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Can I just talk simple to y'all?

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Hmm? Plain, ordinary talk?

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'Cause I think they trying
to talk over y'all head.

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And we not gonna allow that.

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Now, I got some secrets about my client.

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And I'm gonna tell you right now,

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my client ain't no good.

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He ain't.

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My no-good client, Clovis Tubbs,
on the day of the accident,

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was drunk.

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That's right. Drunk.

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Uh... tanked.

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Wasted. Toe up from the flo' up.

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Matter of fact,
you want to check the numbers?

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The numbers say, uh,
0.4 percent blood alcohol level.

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It's right here.

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Inebriated, if you want to say a big word.

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Not only that,

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he was going through mental things.

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He said he was suffering from depression.

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Some would say that he was suicidal,
and we have the proof of that,

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because when he was talking
to his therapist,

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he'd told his therapist, "I'm feeling
so bad I wish I could get in my car

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and ride straight into a tree."

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But he couldn't do that.

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My no-good client couldn't do that.
You know why?

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His license is revoked.

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Ain't even got a license.

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So what'd he say?
"I'm gonna get me a bicycle

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and I'm gonna do it that way."

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And that's exactly what he did.

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He got on his bicycle and rode over there
to Alberta and Vine.

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Y'all know the liquor store
over there, huh?

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And he got him a big old bottle of Scotch
and he downed it, and what'd he do?

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Get on that bicycle and he rode straight
towards the highway, towards traffic.

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Hmm?

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And then, here comes Mr. Eighteen-Wheeler,

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Finch and Company,
not paying no attention.

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To nothing. Coming down Elm.

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And what did he do? Bam!

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He hit Clovis.

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He hit him.

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He should be dead.

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He should be dead.

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Y'all know that song, um...

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♪ I'm looking for a miracle ♪?

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Mm-hmm.
Hmm?

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That's a miracle, right here.

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That's why we asking for you
to look in your hearts and your soul

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and award him that mere $75 million.

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You know why? They got it.

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They got it.

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They got the bank to do it.

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But they know they big,
trying to step on the small man.

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And then you say,
"Well, why $75 million, Willie Gary?"

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I'm-a tell you why.

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Because we have the evidence.

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The evidence will prove
that there was negligence.

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Because no-good Clovis

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had one thing going good for him,

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at that time.

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Even though he was drunk,

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tanked, toe up from the flo' up,

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depressed and suicidal,

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my no-good client, Clovis Tubbs...

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had him a green light.

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Yes, he did.

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I rest my case, Your Honor.

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♪ All right ♪

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♪ Ooh, what a man, what a man,
what a man, what a mighty good man ♪

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♪ Gonna say it again now ♪

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♪ What a man, what a man, what a man ♪

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♪ What a mighty good man ♪

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♪ He's a mighty, mighty good man ♪

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♪ What a man, what a man, what a man ♪

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♪ What a mighty good man... ♪

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I'm Willie Gary. Y'all come on in.

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Listen, I apologize for keeping y'all
waiting out there so long.

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Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Gary.
I'm Jeremiah O'Keefe.

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"Jeremiah." I like that.

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That's biblical. Isaiah, Jeremiah,
Lamentations. That's biblical.

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- Now, who's this?
- Hey...

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He's my junior counsel, Halbert Dockins.

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Well, H-Hal's fine.

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- Uh, it's an honor, Mr. Gary.
- You're too young

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to be a lawyer, Negro.

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I thought you was his foster child.

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Really? Come on,
no, I'm just kidding with you.

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Come on in here.

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This is, this is my, uh,
partner, Reggie Douglas.

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He runs my point.

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So, what y'all got?
What y'all got for Willie Gary?

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Hmm? P.I.?

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I beg your pardon?

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P.I. Personal injury.
Y'all got some personal injuries?

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Didn't y'all see the sign outside?

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That's the only kind of law
we practice round here.

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Uh, well, yes and no.

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Um, I guess...
I guess we sort of have a...

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a P.I. case, but with a bit of a twist.

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Bit of a twist?
Okay, what-what kind of twist?

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What kind of case is it?

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It's a contract law case.

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Contract law? Oh, come on, man.

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- We don't do no contract law here.
- Hell, nah.

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That sound like a nap waiting to happen.

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- Yeah. Yeah, we don't do no contract law.
- I mean, hell.

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R-Right, but look, we understand
it's not necessarily your field,

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but perhaps you could just hear him out.

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I think you'll find the case compelling.

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I am a, um, funeral director

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from Biloxi, Mississippi.

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I have a business there... Well, actually,
I have several businesses there.

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I have eight funeral homes
and one burial insurance company.

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We are a family business,

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and have been for over a hundred years.

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And we are not about to lose that
without a fight.

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After I returned from the war,

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my father passed the business to me,

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which I considered a sacred trust.

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Annette and I were blessed
with 13 children,

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and we intend for them

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to carry the business into the future.

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But about a year ago,

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I ran into some financial trouble.

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Good afternoon, gentlemen.
How can I help you?

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We're here on behalf
of the state insurance commission.

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Mr. O'Keefe, as a registered
burial insurance broker

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in the state of Mississippi,

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I'm sure you're aware
you're required to maintain

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a certain minimum funds
in your account at all times.

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Well, yes. Of course I'm aware.

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Insurance regulators?

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You gotta be kidding me.

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What'd they say they want, exactly?

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Truth is, I may have gotten myself
into a lot of trouble.

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Trouble?

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Jerry...

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I've been your lawyer, what,
coming up on 30 years?

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Was your friend even before that.

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You and I both know

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I've been in debt
up to my neck for years,

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trying to make this business strong,

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make it last,

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so I have something to leave my children.

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Let's not panic just yet.

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I get how stressful this is,

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but I'm pretty sure we can
find a way out of it.

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Hold up a second.

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Excuse me, son.

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- Do you want another drink?
- No, no.

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Whenever you get a chance,
could I get another bourbon over here?

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- Yeah.
- Yes, sir.

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So, look,

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have you considered
selling off part of the business?

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No.

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Just part of it. Okay?

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Well, I'm not saying I want to,
but if I did,

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where would I find a buyer?

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Canada, actually.

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They made an inquiry.

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Loewen Group? Oh, yeah.

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They've been on a pretty significant
acquisition spree.

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Going all across the country,

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buying up every independently owned
funeral chain they can get their hands on.

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These guys, they're really big players.

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Now, you know how I feel
about these big corporations, now.

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Yes, I do. But all I'm saying is
it's an option.

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And it's out there.

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Might be a way out.

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You could think about it.

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Jerry.

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Perfect timing.

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- Hey, you need a hand with that?
- Oh, no, I got it.

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Hey, so, listen.

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You're sure about this, right?

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No, I've given this a lot of thought,

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and I believe this is
the right thing to do for my family.

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All righty, then.

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Next stop, Vancouver.
You ready to go inside?

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No, we got to wait for Hal.

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- Who?
- I told you about Hal.

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He's a friend of my son's from college,

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very bright young man

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just getting started out
as a lawyer and, uh...

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Well, hell, here he comes now.

253
00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:09,436
Recently passed the bar exam.

254
00:11:09,536 --> 00:11:11,538
Hungry for experience.

255
00:11:11,604 --> 00:11:13,273
Who, which one?

256
00:11:13,373 --> 00:11:15,942
That tall kid?

257
00:11:16,420 --> 00:11:19,145
Hey, hey, sorry.
So sorry, Mr. O'Keefe. Um...

258
00:11:19,245 --> 00:11:21,381
My taxi just dropped me off
at the wrong terminal, so...

259
00:11:21,414 --> 00:11:24,617
Oh, don't worry about it. Halbert Dockins,
I want you to meet Mike Allred.

260
00:11:25,752 --> 00:11:27,654
Really great to meet you, Mr. Allred.

261
00:11:27,754 --> 00:11:29,356
I'm very excited
to be a member of the team.

262
00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:31,858
- Hi, there. Nice to meet you, too.
- Yeah.

263
00:11:31,958 --> 00:11:33,526
So you're a lawyer?

264
00:11:33,626 --> 00:11:35,528
Uh, yeah.

265
00:11:35,628 --> 00:11:38,431
Well, that's just great.
Good for you, son.

266
00:11:38,531 --> 00:11:40,367
I'll see you guys inside.

267
00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:47,574
Come on. We're going to Canada.

268
00:11:48,641 --> 00:11:50,143
I work for Ray Loewen.

269
00:11:50,243 --> 00:11:51,911
He's really looking forward
to meeting you.

270
00:11:51,945 --> 00:11:53,480
As I'm sure you can gather,

271
00:11:53,580 --> 00:11:55,348
Ray's a very hands-on kind of guy.

272
00:11:55,448 --> 00:11:58,351
One of the only CEOs in the industry

273
00:11:58,451 --> 00:12:00,320
who likes to meet with
every seller personally.

274
00:12:01,421 --> 00:12:02,789
Hey, Ray!

275
00:12:02,856 --> 00:12:05,792
Allow me to introduce Mr. Jeremiah O'Keefe

276
00:12:05,859 --> 00:12:08,461
- and his colleagues.
- It is a pleasure to meet you, Jerry.

277
00:12:08,528 --> 00:12:13,330
So, boys, how do you like the way we do
business up here in Canada?

278
00:12:13,990 --> 00:12:15,435
Come on on board. Get you a drink.

279
00:12:17,537 --> 00:12:21,410
At present, we own 1,115 funeral homes,

280
00:12:21,107 --> 00:12:22,575
427 cemeteries,

281
00:12:22,642 --> 00:12:26,146
354 insurance companies.

282
00:12:27,247 --> 00:12:28,782
My strategy is simple.

283
00:12:28,848 --> 00:12:31,170
Buy as many funeral homes as I can

284
00:12:31,117 --> 00:12:33,420
and put myself in a position

285
00:12:33,486 --> 00:12:36,256
for what I like to call

286
00:12:36,322 --> 00:12:38,958
the Golden Era of Death.

287
00:12:40,794 --> 00:12:41,961
Sorry?

288
00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,130
It's when all the baby boomers
across the U.S.

289
00:12:44,197 --> 00:12:46,399
finally reach their age of demise.

290
00:12:46,499 --> 00:12:49,903
Resulting in a minimum 60% increase

291
00:12:50,300 --> 00:12:52,439
in death rates nationwide.

292
00:12:52,539 --> 00:12:56,576
Do you have any idea how many people
are living in the U.S.,

293
00:12:56,643 --> 00:12:58,812
right now,

294
00:12:58,912 --> 00:13:00,780
over the age of 65?

295
00:13:02,849 --> 00:13:05,151
51 million.

296
00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:08,922
That sounds kind of cynical to me.

297
00:13:08,955 --> 00:13:11,124
Aren't you worried
about losing sight of your customer?

298
00:13:11,191 --> 00:13:12,192
My customer?

299
00:13:12,292 --> 00:13:14,294
What customer?
My customers are dead guys.

300
00:13:18,498 --> 00:13:20,166
I'm just kidding.

301
00:13:20,233 --> 00:13:22,369
I'm just kidding, Jerry.

302
00:13:23,336 --> 00:13:26,906
Look, the more funeral homes I own,

303
00:13:26,973 --> 00:13:28,475
the more money I make,

304
00:13:28,575 --> 00:13:31,644
the more I am able to meet the demands
of my customer.

305
00:13:31,745 --> 00:13:34,381
And provide for his... growing needs.

306
00:13:38,518 --> 00:13:41,321
Maybe it's time that we drop
all this chit-chat

307
00:13:41,421 --> 00:13:43,256
and start talking about a deal.
What do you say, gentlemen?

308
00:13:43,289 --> 00:13:46,590
I'm interested to hear
what you have in mind, Ray.

309
00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:48,610
My understanding

310
00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:49,729
is that you're having a bit of trouble

311
00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:51,564
with the state regulators down there.

312
00:13:51,664 --> 00:13:54,340
How'd you come to that understanding?

313
00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:56,269
You own... what?

314
00:13:56,369 --> 00:13:57,737
Nine homes across the state?

315
00:13:57,837 --> 00:13:58,872
Eight.

316
00:13:58,938 --> 00:14:01,541
I own eight funeral homes
across the state.

317
00:14:01,608 --> 00:14:04,778
And my insurance business, of course.

318
00:14:04,878 --> 00:14:06,980
So what about this?

319
00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,816
You sell me three of your homes,

320
00:14:09,916 --> 00:14:12,252
at a fair market value
to be agreed upon later.

321
00:14:12,318 --> 00:14:15,689
Then, not only do you get to keep

322
00:14:15,789 --> 00:14:17,857
the bulk of your assets,

323
00:14:17,957 --> 00:14:20,393
but it would also provide you
with more than enough fresh cash

324
00:14:20,493 --> 00:14:22,395
to deal with the regulators.

325
00:14:22,495 --> 00:14:24,764
Now, there's something else
I want out of this deal.

326
00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:29,350
I make most of my profits
from selling burial insurance.

327
00:14:29,102 --> 00:14:32,105
There's no way I can survive
if you have a monopoly

328
00:14:32,205 --> 00:14:34,107
on that, too, so what I propose

329
00:14:34,207 --> 00:14:36,209
is that I sell you
three of my funeral homes,

330
00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:37,944
fair market value...

331
00:14:39,312 --> 00:14:41,147
but you're going to have to promise,
here and now,

332
00:14:41,147 --> 00:14:44,818
to no longer sell burial insurance
in southern Mississippi.

333
00:14:57,864 --> 00:14:59,366
Okay.

334
00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,371
So does this mean we have a deal?

335
00:15:04,437 --> 00:15:06,706
I'll get my lawyers
to draw up the contracts

336
00:15:06,773 --> 00:15:08,575
so we can get it done immediately.

337
00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:16,820
What the hell is taking so long?

338
00:15:16,149 --> 00:15:17,417
We closed on this deal, um...

339
00:15:17,484 --> 00:15:18,818
Coming up on four months now.

340
00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:20,854
They keep trying to re-trade the terms.

341
00:15:20,954 --> 00:15:24,524
When we left Vancouver,
they said it would take 30 days max.

342
00:15:24,624 --> 00:15:27,293
- It just doesn't make sense.
- I don't know, makes perfect sense to me.

343
00:15:27,327 --> 00:15:28,361
Why?

344
00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:31,364
Have you considered the possibility

345
00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:34,668
that Loewen has no intention
of closing this deal at all?

346
00:15:34,734 --> 00:15:37,937
Son, with all due respect,
you don't have the faintest idea

347
00:15:38,380 --> 00:15:39,272
what you're talking about.

348
00:15:39,372 --> 00:15:40,473
I think I do.

349
00:15:40,573 --> 00:15:42,308
Think about it.

350
00:15:42,409 --> 00:15:44,878
The longer he stalls,
the worse you're screwed.

351
00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:47,800
First, the insurance commission
takes your license,

352
00:15:47,147 --> 00:15:48,715
effectively destroying your livelihood,

353
00:15:48,782 --> 00:15:52,180
until, sooner or later, you have no choice
but to file for bankruptcy.

354
00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:54,587
Now not only does Loewen get
the three homes,

355
00:15:54,654 --> 00:15:56,856
he can actually buy your entire business
out from under you

356
00:15:56,856 --> 00:15:58,191
at yard-sale prices.

357
00:15:58,291 --> 00:16:00,260
You really think
he's trying to bankrupt me?

358
00:16:00,126 --> 00:16:02,362
Hell, he can't do that;
I got a signed contract.

359
00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:05,650
It was only signed on our end.

360
00:16:05,165 --> 00:16:06,766
With no closing date attached.

361
00:16:06,866 --> 00:16:08,268
And, by the way, I heard Mr. Loewen

362
00:16:08,335 --> 00:16:09,869
is actually still selling insurance
in the region.

363
00:16:09,903 --> 00:16:11,905
Oh, come on.
Stop with the conspiracy theories.

364
00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:15,750
Son, I'm sorry,
but you really are paranoid.

365
00:16:15,141 --> 00:16:16,142
Okay.

366
00:16:16,242 --> 00:16:17,243
Um...

367
00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:19,790
would you mind doing me a favor?

368
00:16:19,145 --> 00:16:21,848
Would you mind stop calling me son?

369
00:16:21,948 --> 00:16:25,518
I am not your son, Mike.

370
00:16:25,618 --> 00:16:26,686
Whoa.

371
00:16:26,786 --> 00:16:28,588
Just take it easy, okay?

372
00:16:28,655 --> 00:16:30,490
You really want to be taken seriously

373
00:16:30,557 --> 00:16:32,459
- as a lawyer in this town?
- Okay. Who says I'm not?

374
00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:34,361
Enough of that, y'all.

375
00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:41,534
Do you really think Mr. Loewen has the
intention of running me into the ground?

376
00:16:41,601 --> 00:16:43,300
I do.

377
00:16:43,690 --> 00:16:45,772
Why the hell should he be
on our clock anyway?

378
00:16:45,872 --> 00:16:48,408
Well, that's it. I'm gonna sue him.

379
00:16:48,475 --> 00:16:51,544
You've never sued anybody before
in your whole life.

380
00:16:51,611 --> 00:16:53,646
Well, I'm liable to,
just about any minute now.

381
00:16:53,747 --> 00:16:57,951
Yeah. Well, you think 75 years of age
is a good time to start suing people?

382
00:16:58,180 --> 00:17:00,754
Old men don't file lawsuits.

383
00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:03,723
The way I see it, if somebody tries
to take advantage of you,

384
00:17:03,823 --> 00:17:06,559
and you know it's wrong,
it don't matter how old you are.

385
00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:08,528
This fellow tried to bully me
out of business.

386
00:17:08,628 --> 00:17:11,131
And I don't think
I should be expected to stand for it.

387
00:17:20,874 --> 00:17:22,742
I'm here to file a lawsuit.

388
00:17:22,809 --> 00:17:24,411
That the complaint right there?

389
00:17:24,477 --> 00:17:26,579
May I see it, please?

390
00:17:29,282 --> 00:17:33,353
"Jeremiah J. O'Keefe Sr.
V. The Loewen Group LLC."

391
00:17:33,453 --> 00:17:35,880
Ooh.

392
00:17:35,155 --> 00:17:36,556
Sounds juicy.

393
00:17:36,656 --> 00:17:38,491
Who do you think's gonna win?

394
00:17:38,558 --> 00:17:40,126
Excuse me?

395
00:17:42,162 --> 00:17:43,963
Well, goodness, Hal,

396
00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:45,165
what are you doing here?

397
00:17:45,231 --> 00:17:46,766
- You know what time it is?
- Look, uh,

398
00:17:46,866 --> 00:17:48,268
I know it's late.
I'm really sorry about that.

399
00:17:48,268 --> 00:17:51,338
I-I found something I think will be
really useful for our case.

400
00:17:54,641 --> 00:17:57,644
The thrills continue with another

401
00:17:57,744 --> 00:18:00,580
opulent episode on
Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.

402
00:18:00,647 --> 00:18:03,650
You won't believe
the amazing journey of famed

403
00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:06,786
personal injury lawyer Willie E. Gary,

404
00:18:06,853 --> 00:18:10,357
a man who refused to accept
a life sentence of poverty

405
00:18:10,457 --> 00:18:13,226
because he believed in the American dream.

406
00:18:13,326 --> 00:18:15,528
Born to a family of migrant sharecroppers

407
00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:18,131
working the sugarcane fields of Florida,

408
00:18:18,198 --> 00:18:21,601
life wasn't always a bed of roses
for Willie Gary.

409
00:18:21,701 --> 00:18:24,604
I just always had this burning desire
to be something, you know?

410
00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:26,706
And I-I knew I was going
to make something of myself.

411
00:18:26,740 --> 00:18:28,341
And make something of himself he did,

412
00:18:28,375 --> 00:18:31,711
as now Willie regularly wins
multimillion-dollar cases...

413
00:18:31,778 --> 00:18:35,148
Are you suggesting I hire this guy
as one of my lawyers?

414
00:18:35,248 --> 00:18:36,816
Seems like a crazy idea,

415
00:18:36,916 --> 00:18:39,919
but this guy wins cases. I mean...

416
00:18:39,986 --> 00:18:41,955
He not only owns
his own private 737 jet,

417
00:18:42,220 --> 00:18:43,656
called Wings of Justice,

418
00:18:43,723 --> 00:18:47,127
he also lives the high life
in a 50-room mansion

419
00:18:47,193 --> 00:18:50,296
along the luxurious Florida coast.

420
00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:53,266
But Willie can't take credit
for the decorating,

421
00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:56,536
as that job belongs
to Willie's childhood sweetheart,

422
00:18:56,603 --> 00:18:59,439
his gorgeous and alluring wife Gloria.

423
00:18:59,539 --> 00:19:00,540
One thing

424
00:19:00,607 --> 00:19:03,276
that I always try
to remind Willie of is to...

425
00:19:03,376 --> 00:19:05,378
- is to never forget where he came from.
- Mm.

426
00:19:05,445 --> 00:19:07,147
- Stay humble.
- Yes,

427
00:19:07,247 --> 00:19:08,982
"humble" is Willie Gary's middle name.

428
00:19:09,820 --> 00:19:11,851
Don't never let nobody tell you
you can't do something, okay?

429
00:19:11,951 --> 00:19:13,586
Willie Gary told you that.

430
00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:15,210
Give me a pound.

431
00:19:15,121 --> 00:19:16,656
Never forgetting his roots...

432
00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:21,327
Believe it or not, he's got
an absolutely flawless trial record.

433
00:19:21,361 --> 00:19:24,330
He supposedly hasn't lost a case
in over 12 years.

434
00:19:24,397 --> 00:19:25,865
What does he know about contract law?

435
00:19:25,899 --> 00:19:27,500
This is a contract law case.

436
00:19:27,567 --> 00:19:29,569
The case was filed down in Hinds County.

437
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:32,405
That's a three-to-one Black/white ratio.

438
00:19:32,505 --> 00:19:35,410
That means there's a 70% chance
we'll get a Black judge,

439
00:19:35,108 --> 00:19:36,776
and if we do go to trial,

440
00:19:36,876 --> 00:19:38,712
likely a Black jury as well.

441
00:19:38,778 --> 00:19:41,114
- So what?
- With all due respect,

442
00:19:41,214 --> 00:19:44,784
you-you can't put a guy like Mike Allred
in front of a Black jury.

443
00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:46,853
Why the hell not?

444
00:19:46,953 --> 00:19:48,588
He has been my attorney for 30 years.

445
00:19:48,655 --> 00:19:51,240
He knows contract law better than anybody.

446
00:19:51,124 --> 00:19:52,826
You're really gonna
make me spell this out.

447
00:19:52,892 --> 00:19:54,600
Um...

448
00:19:56,696 --> 00:20:01,768
He literally reeks self-satisfied,
good ol' boy Southern bigotry.

449
00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:06,573
I mean, a Black jury sees
a guy like that coming...

450
00:20:06,639 --> 00:20:10,210
The idea of us pandering to a jury
like that, Hal, it's not...

451
00:20:10,276 --> 00:20:11,978
It...

452
00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:15,810
This is not a discrimination suit.

453
00:20:15,148 --> 00:20:19,119
You and I both know
that race has nothing to do with this.

454
00:20:23,456 --> 00:20:26,192
I happen to know, for a fact,
that Mr. Gary is trying a case

455
00:20:26,292 --> 00:20:27,961
down in Florida this week.

456
00:20:29,696 --> 00:20:31,865
What if... what if...

457
00:20:31,931 --> 00:20:33,867
you and I went down there,
just for the day,

458
00:20:33,933 --> 00:20:35,735
and try to meet him in person?

459
00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:39,372
Essentially, we just want
to hold the Loewen Group

460
00:20:39,439 --> 00:20:40,974
responsible for their actions.

461
00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:42,475
Nah, nah, nah. That ain't what you want.

462
00:20:42,475 --> 00:20:44,770
What you want to do
is you want to make 'em pay.

463
00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:45,578
- Make 'em hurt, make 'em pay.
- Yeah, yeah.

464
00:20:45,612 --> 00:20:47,447
So, how much money y'all trying
to get, hmm?

465
00:20:47,547 --> 00:20:49,849
- Uh, $6 million.
- $6 million.

466
00:20:49,949 --> 00:20:53,520
That's full, fair market value
plus damages,

467
00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:58,692
and I've already filed a civil claim
in Hinds County, Mississippi.

468
00:20:58,792 --> 00:21:00,527
Well?

469
00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:03,296
What-what do you think, Mr. Gary?
Do you like the case?

470
00:21:05,365 --> 00:21:07,330
I'm gonna give you my personal opinion.

471
00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:08,601
Honest.

472
00:21:08,702 --> 00:21:12,772
Look, Mr. O'Keefe, I'm sorry for
what this Loewen guy did to you...

473
00:21:12,872 --> 00:21:15,408
He sounds like he's a big ***hole
and everything like that...

474
00:21:15,475 --> 00:21:18,378
But, um, this ain't no Willie Gary case.

475
00:21:18,445 --> 00:21:20,146
It just ain't. It ain't...

476
00:21:20,246 --> 00:21:21,481
It ain't a Willie Gary case.

477
00:21:21,581 --> 00:21:23,216
Uh, wait, what-what do you mean?
Why-why not?

478
00:21:23,249 --> 00:21:25,151
It ain't a Willie Gary case

479
00:21:25,251 --> 00:21:27,287
- 'cause it ain't for Willie Gary.
- No, but...

480
00:21:27,354 --> 00:21:29,489
I'm sorry,
what is a "Willie Gary case," then?

481
00:21:29,589 --> 00:21:30,957
- I don't...
- In other words, what he's saying is

482
00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:33,727
a Willie Gary case is the type of case
where I have the upper hand.

483
00:21:33,827 --> 00:21:37,230
Where I feel that I can take
this case to trial. Understand?

484
00:21:37,330 --> 00:21:39,432
- All the way.
- And-and once I get 'em in that trial,

485
00:21:39,432 --> 00:21:40,667
I mean, y'all seen my tape.

486
00:21:40,734 --> 00:21:42,469
When I get 'em in front of...
Especially in front of people

487
00:21:42,502 --> 00:21:44,604
that-that look like me...
I'm-a play 'em like a symphony.

488
00:21:44,604 --> 00:21:46,600
Mm. Mozart.

489
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,420
A Willie Gary case is
where I could take that judgement

490
00:21:49,109 --> 00:21:52,112
and push it all the way up,
to the heavens if I need to,

491
00:21:52,212 --> 00:21:54,481
and get as much money as I can
for my client.

492
00:21:54,581 --> 00:21:56,750
Uh, what he's saying is,
a Willie Gary case

493
00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:58,840
is a case we know we can win.

494
00:21:58,151 --> 00:21:59,753
This case... not so much.

495
00:21:59,819 --> 00:22:02,455
Matter of fact,
your case a little bit iffy.

496
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:06,226
And, uh...

497
00:22:06,326 --> 00:22:07,861
the other thing is this.

498
00:22:07,961 --> 00:22:10,300
Don't take this the wrong way, but, uh...

499
00:22:11,531 --> 00:22:14,534
He, uh, he's... you're white... he's white.

500
00:22:14,601 --> 00:22:17,871
And I don't have white clients.

501
00:22:17,937 --> 00:22:20,707
I've never had any, so...

502
00:22:20,774 --> 00:22:25,545
No offense or anything like that,
but this is just unusual for me.

503
00:22:26,713 --> 00:22:29,582
No offense taken, Mr. Gary.

504
00:22:30,684 --> 00:22:33,190
That guy's too rich and famous
for us, Halbert.

505
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,621
Uh-huh.

506
00:22:34,688 --> 00:22:37,230
Um, you know what, Mr. O'Keefe?
Just, um...

507
00:22:37,123 --> 00:22:38,425
- What?
- You know, just-just give me one second.

508
00:22:38,458 --> 00:22:39,626
- All right?
- Where you going?

509
00:22:39,659 --> 00:22:40,960
I'm-I'm gonna talk with him one more time.

510
00:22:40,994 --> 00:22:42,328
G-Give me five minutes, okay?

511
00:22:42,395 --> 00:22:44,130
The green light scenario,

512
00:22:44,197 --> 00:22:47,330
when I was talking to the,
the one juror, uh, uh...

513
00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:48,501
What'd she have on?

514
00:22:48,568 --> 00:22:50,503
I'd have maybe looked at her
a little bit longer.

515
00:22:50,537 --> 00:22:51,838
You know, gave her some eye contact.

516
00:22:51,871 --> 00:22:53,640
- Sometimes you got to romance them.
- Listen, I'm not...

517
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,475
- That's the thing, I don't know that...
- Look, Mr. Gary,

518
00:22:55,475 --> 00:22:57,477
I'm so sorry to come back in here
like this, I really am,

519
00:22:57,477 --> 00:22:59,312
- but I just need a minute of your time.
- What's going on with you, man?

520
00:22:59,312 --> 00:23:00,947
- You lost? Huh?
- Yeah. Lost your mind...

521
00:23:01,140 --> 00:23:02,882
Or did he fire your ***
out there by the elevator?

522
00:23:02,916 --> 00:23:05,585
Okay, yeah, maybe so,
but listen, I... I...

523
00:23:05,652 --> 00:23:07,754
- I just need a minute of your time.
- You need a minute?

524
00:23:07,787 --> 00:23:09,756
- One minute. That's all I ask.
- Well, you know what, that's all you got.

525
00:23:09,789 --> 00:23:11,157
'Cause we busy. Then, come on, Hal.

526
00:23:11,191 --> 00:23:13,993
I mean, Jerry's a... a dream client.

527
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,795
He's got a great narrative.

528
00:23:15,862 --> 00:23:17,630
He's a war hero.

529
00:23:17,163 --> 00:23:18,598
A decorated war hero.

530
00:23:18,698 --> 00:23:20,333
He served in World War II.

531
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,369
He was, he was awarded
the Distinguished Flying Cross... -Yeah.

532
00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:24,371
- For service for his country.
- Hmm.

533
00:23:25,171 --> 00:23:26,439
- Is that all you got?
- Man.

534
00:23:26,539 --> 00:23:27,607
That's it?

535
00:23:27,707 --> 00:23:30,944
- Wasn't World War II about 50 years ago?
- Yeah, man.

536
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,380
Hal, don't nobody give a shit except them.
That's old news, nigga.

537
00:23:33,413 --> 00:23:34,814
All right. All right. How about this?

538
00:23:34,814 --> 00:23:36,820
Okay, um...

539
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:38,318
In 1976,

540
00:23:38,418 --> 00:23:42,956
Jerry was serving as a two-term mayor
in his hometown of Biloxi.

541
00:23:43,230 --> 00:23:44,958
The KKK tried to organize a march...

542
00:23:45,250 --> 00:23:47,794
And he stopped 'em
from buying white sheets.

543
00:23:50,397 --> 00:23:52,432
- Shit, man.
- I guess, I guess he's supposed to be

544
00:23:52,532 --> 00:23:54,768
- our white savior now.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. KKK, man.

545
00:23:54,768 --> 00:23:56,436
You sound like you in love with him, man.

546
00:23:57,570 --> 00:24:00,974
No, that's not my point. I'm saying we're
hopefully trying the case in Hinds County.

547
00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:03,243
- There's a three-to-one...
- Hold-hold on. Let me stop you, Hal.

548
00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:06,613
Now, listen, Hal, I like you...
I-I think you come from good stock...

549
00:24:06,713 --> 00:24:08,248
But you got to understand
how we work here.

550
00:24:08,281 --> 00:24:11,251
One, we don't do contract law.

551
00:24:11,317 --> 00:24:14,187
- Two, we don't have no white clients.
- No.

552
00:24:14,287 --> 00:24:16,990
And three, that ain't enough money.

553
00:24:17,570 --> 00:24:18,825
My, not enough money.

554
00:24:18,892 --> 00:24:21,161
It ain't enough money, Hal.
You know, I-I-I love you, man,

555
00:24:21,194 --> 00:24:22,829
but it ain't enough money for us.

556
00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:24,764
Brother, look around.
You see where you are?

557
00:24:24,864 --> 00:24:27,330
You don't see this mahogany wood?

558
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:28,535
- Gold finish?
- Got to see it.

559
00:24:28,601 --> 00:24:30,300
- Preach. Yeah.
- It's the big time, baby.

560
00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:32,172
We doing cases for $50 million,
$30 million,

561
00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:33,773
- $80 million cases monthly.
- Yeah.

562
00:24:33,873 --> 00:24:35,208
Okay. Okay.

563
00:24:35,275 --> 00:24:38,780
But how do you know this case
can't be something bigger?

564
00:24:39,112 --> 00:24:40,413
Well...

565
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,749
we don't know.

566
00:24:42,816 --> 00:24:44,617
You know something we don't?

567
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,655
Ray Loewen happens to sit at the top

568
00:24:48,755 --> 00:24:51,825
of one of the biggest industries
in this country.

569
00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:52,992
Hmm.

570
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:56,463
I'm talking about the $20 billion a year
death care industry.

571
00:24:57,530 --> 00:25:00,333
There are two huge corporations moving in
and taking over everything,

572
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,268
and the Loewen Group is one of them.

573
00:25:02,369 --> 00:25:06,639
Now, what they did to Jerry
is truly terrible, but...

574
00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:08,775
I have a feeling it's just... it's-it...

575
00:25:08,875 --> 00:25:12,112
No. I know. It's the tip of the iceberg.

576
00:25:13,613 --> 00:25:15,415
- Hmm.
- Can I keep going?

577
00:25:15,482 --> 00:25:16,750
Sure. Shit.

578
00:25:16,816 --> 00:25:18,785
Well, that's where you should've started.

579
00:25:18,852 --> 00:25:21,521
You guys try all these
$80 million cases, and...

580
00:25:21,621 --> 00:25:23,723
and you have your private jet and
all that, I get it, that's fine, but...

581
00:25:23,723 --> 00:25:24,991
Yeah, I do. Wings of Justice.

582
00:25:25,580 --> 00:25:27,560
Great. Look, you know as well as I do

583
00:25:27,660 --> 00:25:30,363
that as far as the more elite
legal community in this country goes,

584
00:25:30,463 --> 00:25:32,699
you're nothing more than
a glorified ambulance chaser.

585
00:25:32,766 --> 00:25:35,350
No offense. -Now, Hal, now don't make me
whoop your *** now.

586
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,736
- Disrespectful, boy.
- What if...

587
00:25:36,836 --> 00:25:38,271
What if, what-what if...

588
00:25:38,371 --> 00:25:41,608
what if this case is the one
that puts you on the map?

589
00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:44,377
What if this case takes you
to a nationwide level?

590
00:25:44,444 --> 00:25:45,779
I'm talking, um...

591
00:25:45,879 --> 00:25:47,714
William Kuntsler,

592
00:25:47,781 --> 00:25:49,816
Clarence Darrow,

593
00:25:49,916 --> 00:25:51,518
Thurgood Marshall.

594
00:25:54,287 --> 00:25:56,690
Look, I'm talking...

595
00:25:56,790 --> 00:25:59,626
I'm talking Johnnie mother****ing Cochran.

596
00:26:15,141 --> 00:26:16,910
Well, I've never heard of him.

597
00:26:16,976 --> 00:26:19,212
Was this your idea,
by the way, Mr. Dockins?

598
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,810
- Yes.
- No, it was not his idea,

599
00:26:21,147 --> 00:26:23,983
it was mine, and I realize, Mike,
it might piss you off,

600
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,752
me bringing on additional counsel
like this, but...

601
00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:27,454
Piss me off? Not at all.

602
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,356
Doesn't piss me... Do I seem pissed off?

603
00:26:29,456 --> 00:26:31,291
I'm not pissed off.

604
00:26:31,358 --> 00:26:33,226
Hell, it's your money,
you can do what you want to with it,

605
00:26:33,226 --> 00:26:35,295
I just think you're making a big mistake.

606
00:26:35,362 --> 00:26:37,864
I am trying to put us
in the best possible position

607
00:26:37,964 --> 00:26:39,666
in the event we end up going to trial.

608
00:26:39,733 --> 00:26:40,767
Got it.

609
00:26:40,867 --> 00:26:42,535
Except we're not going to trial.

610
00:26:42,602 --> 00:26:45,171
Seriously, what's so special
about this guy, anyway?

611
00:26:45,238 --> 00:26:48,942
Hal and I went over to Florida to
watch him try a case in front of a jury,

612
00:26:49,420 --> 00:26:51,378
and I want to tell you,
this man can absolutely,

613
00:26:51,444 --> 00:26:54,114
positively galvanize a jury.

614
00:26:55,315 --> 00:26:56,750
Yes, sir.

615
00:26:59,486 --> 00:27:01,210
Well...

616
00:27:01,121 --> 00:27:03,289
if you believe in him that much,

617
00:27:03,356 --> 00:27:04,958
then sure, okay, I'll work with him.

618
00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:06,292
I've partnered up before.

619
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,894
Just as long as it's clear

620
00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:10,563
I'm still lead attorney.

621
00:27:11,631 --> 00:27:14,100
Appreciate you being a good sport
about this, Mike.

622
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,200
No problem.

623
00:27:16,690 --> 00:27:17,937
So what time is he supposed
to get here, anyway?

624
00:27:17,937 --> 00:27:19,806
You know, actually,
I think this is them now.

625
00:27:19,906 --> 00:27:21,207
Now?

626
00:27:23,376 --> 00:27:24,778
♪ Greg N-N-N, N-N-N ♪

627
00:27:24,878 --> 00:27:26,946
♪ Has gots to be the sure shot ♪

628
00:27:27,470 --> 00:27:29,449
♪ Gang Starr has gots to be
the sure shot ♪

629
00:27:29,516 --> 00:27:31,518
♪ Nice & Smooth has gots
to be the sure shot ♪

630
00:27:31,618 --> 00:27:34,354
♪ Greg Nice, Greg N-I-C-E ♪

631
00:27:34,454 --> 00:27:36,489
♪ Oka-yay, o-o... ♪

632
00:27:36,556 --> 00:27:38,625
Jeremiah Lamentations.
How you doing, Jerry?

633
00:27:38,692 --> 00:27:39,759
- Good to see you, Willie.
- Good to see you, doc.

634
00:27:39,793 --> 00:27:40,927
Good to see you. You looking good.

635
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,896
- Thank you.
- Hey, Hal, what you doing over there, huh?

636
00:27:42,896 --> 00:27:44,640
- It's a pleasure.
- You gettin' younger on me, man?

637
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,665
Huh? What, you on some Dorian Gray shit?

638
00:27:45,732 --> 00:27:47,934
Willie, let me introduce you
to Mike Allred, right here.

639
00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:49,269
Mike.

640
00:27:49,369 --> 00:27:51,171
Now, I understand
we working together, hmm?

641
00:27:51,237 --> 00:27:53,606
So I understand. How you doing, Mr. Gary?

642
00:27:53,707 --> 00:27:55,709
I look like a million, huh?

643
00:27:55,775 --> 00:27:57,911
You look like
ten million Yankee dollars, Willie.

644
00:27:57,977 --> 00:27:59,646
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

645
00:27:59,646 --> 00:28:00,914
I feel good.

646
00:28:00,980 --> 00:28:02,182
This your war room here, huh?

647
00:28:02,282 --> 00:28:04,818
Uh, well, we got the conference room,
you know. -Mm-hmm.

648
00:28:04,918 --> 00:28:08,154
I like these over there.
I like these books. I like all those.

649
00:28:08,254 --> 00:28:09,589
This is nice, though.

650
00:28:09,656 --> 00:28:11,958
Before we get to work, though...

651
00:28:12,250 --> 00:28:14,361
I hope this doesn't make you
feel uncomfortable, but, uh...

652
00:28:14,394 --> 00:28:15,962
I got some questions I got to ask you.

653
00:28:16,290 --> 00:28:18,365
Oh, sure. Feel free to ask me anything.
I'm all ears.

654
00:28:18,431 --> 00:28:19,566
Good.

655
00:28:19,666 --> 00:28:22,369
Um, question is, uh...

656
00:28:22,435 --> 00:28:24,537
how do you feel
about working with Black folk?

657
00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:28,410
Man-to-man?

658
00:28:29,420 --> 00:28:30,210
Is there any other way?

659
00:28:30,276 --> 00:28:32,145
No, sir. You want an honest answer?

660
00:28:32,245 --> 00:28:33,646
- I need that.
- All right.

661
00:28:33,747 --> 00:28:35,915
Well, if you want an honest answer,

662
00:28:35,982 --> 00:28:38,184
truth be told,
I suppose I am a little prejudiced.

663
00:28:38,284 --> 00:28:39,319
Mm. Okay.

664
00:28:39,419 --> 00:28:40,587
I'm not saying I'm proud of it
or anything.

665
00:28:40,620 --> 00:28:43,230
- I appreciate your honesty.
- In fact, I've been working real hard

666
00:28:43,230 --> 00:28:44,570
on trying to overcome it.

667
00:28:44,157 --> 00:28:45,658
Mm. Well, then you should.

668
00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:47,394
- I'm glad you're working on it.
- But yes.

669
00:28:47,394 --> 00:28:49,796
Did you meet my team?

670
00:28:49,863 --> 00:28:52,265
Hi. I'm Chris.

671
00:28:52,365 --> 00:28:53,666
Hi, Chris.

672
00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:55,335
Yes. Dashaan.

673
00:28:55,402 --> 00:28:56,536
- Dashaan.
- Mm.

674
00:28:56,603 --> 00:28:58,271
Al.

675
00:28:59,339 --> 00:29:00,707
Reggie Douglas.

676
00:29:01,708 --> 00:29:02,942
Gentlemen.

677
00:29:04,411 --> 00:29:06,980
Okay. Uh...
now that that's all cleared up,

678
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,581
why don't we all just head over
to the conference room,

679
00:29:08,615 --> 00:29:10,417
where the rest of the team
is waiting, yeah?

680
00:29:10,483 --> 00:29:13,190
Jerry. We're gonna work this out,
all right?

681
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:14,521
- Yeah.
- He's gonna be okay.

682
00:29:14,621 --> 00:29:15,989
Okay, that's fine.

683
00:29:17,857 --> 00:29:19,726
Afternoon, gentlemen. How you feeling?

684
00:29:19,826 --> 00:29:21,728
You good? Huh? Good, good, good.

685
00:29:21,828 --> 00:29:24,764
For all y'all that don't know who I am,
my name is Willie Gary.

686
00:29:24,864 --> 00:29:26,266
Tell 'em who you are.

687
00:29:26,366 --> 00:29:29,502
Now, I done brought a couple of partners
of mine from my firm up here from Florida

688
00:29:29,536 --> 00:29:31,204
to help y'all win this case.

689
00:29:31,271 --> 00:29:34,941
And for all of y'all who are unfamiliar
with the Willie Gary style of litigation,

690
00:29:35,410 --> 00:29:36,209
let me break it down to you.

691
00:29:36,276 --> 00:29:38,111
We 'bout to go to war.

692
00:29:38,211 --> 00:29:40,280
'Cause that's what I think litigation is.

693
00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:42,820
Litigation is war.

694
00:29:42,148 --> 00:29:44,317
It's a battle, a battle to the death.

695
00:29:44,417 --> 00:29:46,219
And I'm not talking about
no bullshit, either;

696
00:29:46,286 --> 00:29:49,589
I'm talking about some
Jean-Claude Van Damme ***-kicking shit.

697
00:29:50,557 --> 00:29:53,226
Now I know y'all looking at me crazy,
but that's how I like to get.

698
00:29:54,694 --> 00:29:56,696
And if we don't get crazy
with these mother****ers,

699
00:29:56,796 --> 00:29:58,264
I'm telling you, this Loewen Group?

700
00:29:58,365 --> 00:29:59,666
They're powerful.

701
00:29:59,733 --> 00:30:01,768
Got a lot of money,
got a lot of influence.

702
00:30:01,868 --> 00:30:04,370
They have everything that we don't.

703
00:30:04,104 --> 00:30:06,706
But we not gonna let them intimidate us.

704
00:30:06,773 --> 00:30:08,608
'Cause I'm not intimidated.

705
00:30:09,709 --> 00:30:12,780
Now, it ain't no secret.

706
00:30:12,145 --> 00:30:14,481
For the past 12 years,
I have not lost a case.

707
00:30:14,581 --> 00:30:15,915
And why is that?

708
00:30:15,982 --> 00:30:17,117
Can you tell me why?

709
00:30:17,183 --> 00:30:18,651
'Cause I hate to lose.

710
00:30:18,752 --> 00:30:21,855
I hate it, I hate it, I hate it!

711
00:30:21,988 --> 00:30:24,224
I'd rather somebody pull a gun on me
and blow my head off

712
00:30:24,324 --> 00:30:26,192
than to lose a case.

713
00:30:28,328 --> 00:30:30,330
Now, that being said...

714
00:30:31,631 --> 00:30:33,833
there's one thing I'm-a tell you
I'm not gonna bend on.

715
00:30:33,867 --> 00:30:38,104
I do not plan on settling this case.

716
00:30:38,204 --> 00:30:40,106
- We don't do that, no.
- Excuse me.

717
00:30:40,206 --> 00:30:42,609
Anyone mind if I say something here?

718
00:30:42,709 --> 00:30:44,544
- Go ahead, Mike.
- Mr. Gary,

719
00:30:44,611 --> 00:30:47,647
when it comes to the matter of settling,
I'm afraid that's not at all

720
00:30:47,747 --> 00:30:49,449
the strategy we've developed here.

721
00:30:49,516 --> 00:30:53,753
In fact, I've already drafted
a letter to Mr. Loewen

722
00:30:53,820 --> 00:30:56,690
offering to settle at $8 million.

723
00:30:56,790 --> 00:30:58,558
Though, just between us here in this room,

724
00:30:58,658 --> 00:31:01,161
we'd probably be willing to drop
to seven if need be.

725
00:31:01,227 --> 00:31:02,495
Well, Mike, thank you for the update...

726
00:31:02,529 --> 00:31:05,665
Appreciate that...
But, unfortunately, things have changed.

727
00:31:05,732 --> 00:31:07,667
We're not settling.

728
00:31:07,734 --> 00:31:09,402
No matter what you said,

729
00:31:09,502 --> 00:31:11,538
the discussion is still on the table

730
00:31:11,604 --> 00:31:14,941
and will remain so until I've decided
what the best course is.

731
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:18,780
Huh.

732
00:31:18,144 --> 00:31:19,946
Till you decided, huh?

733
00:31:22,415 --> 00:31:23,750
What's going on here, Mike?

734
00:31:23,817 --> 00:31:25,785
Hmm? Who's in charge?

735
00:31:26,786 --> 00:31:28,855
No, seriously, who's in charge?

736
00:31:28,955 --> 00:31:31,324
'Cause you done have Willie Gary
come down here to take over the case

737
00:31:31,358 --> 00:31:33,393
and now here you're telling me
what you're gonna do.

738
00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:36,463
I said we're not settling the case
and that comes from the lead attorney.

739
00:31:36,529 --> 00:31:37,664
- Come again?
- Come again what?

740
00:31:37,697 --> 00:31:40,200
What's the matter?
You need your ears checked or something?

741
00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:41,534
Excuse me, sir.

742
00:31:41,601 --> 00:31:42,836
- No, you're not.
- Mike, you raise a finger to me,

743
00:31:42,869 --> 00:31:44,270
- you'll get your *** whupped in here.
- Boss, calm down.

744
00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:46,806
- Believe me, Mr. Gary, you are not lead attorney.
- Come on, settle down.

745
00:31:46,806 --> 00:31:48,410
- Then what am I, then?
- May I remind you

746
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:49,609
- you are in my town...
- Your town?

747
00:31:49,709 --> 00:31:51,578
- Sitting at my conference table...
- Every town I go to, Mike, is my town.

748
00:31:51,611 --> 00:31:53,246
- Across the table from my client.
- Evidently it ain't your town,

749
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:55,480
- or they wouldn't have called me.
- Gentlemen. Gentlemen.

750
00:31:55,810 --> 00:31:58,685
Gentlemen, could y'all
let the temperature down a little bit?

751
00:32:01,121 --> 00:32:03,390
I didn't come here to fight you, Mike.

752
00:32:03,490 --> 00:32:05,992
- What?
- I said, I didn't come here to fight you.

753
00:32:06,590 --> 00:32:08,294
I came here to get a job done.

754
00:32:08,862 --> 00:32:10,864
Now, Mr. O'Keefe...

755
00:32:10,964 --> 00:32:13,533
Last I checked, he wants to win this case.

756
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,737
Not toot his *** up in the air
for a funky little $8 million.

757
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,775
Like a *****.

758
00:32:22,409 --> 00:32:25,412
Jesus Christ, Jerry. What's going on?

759
00:32:25,478 --> 00:32:27,414
I think we ought to give him a chance.

760
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,882
Did you hear that speech he just gave?

761
00:32:28,915 --> 00:32:30,116
He has no idea what he's doing.

762
00:32:30,150 --> 00:32:32,352
He hasn't lost a case in 12 years.

763
00:32:32,452 --> 00:32:34,200
For personal injury cases.

764
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,823
He clearly has no idea about real law,
about contract law.

765
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:40,660
What about lead attorney?

766
00:32:40,727 --> 00:32:42,962
You're not considering
giving him lead attorney.

767
00:32:43,290 --> 00:32:44,364
Yeah.

768
00:32:45,331 --> 00:32:47,100
I am.

769
00:32:54,774 --> 00:32:56,576
We good?

770
00:32:56,643 --> 00:32:58,812
Yeah.

771
00:32:58,912 --> 00:33:00,447
Mike, you good?

772
00:33:00,547 --> 00:33:02,482
All right, since we're all good,

773
00:33:02,582 --> 00:33:06,686
uh, does anybody here mind, uh,
taking some dictation?

774
00:33:06,786 --> 00:33:09,689
Cynthia, would you mind
taking dictation for Mr. Gary?

775
00:33:09,789 --> 00:33:12,726
All right, Cynthia. I sure appreciate it.

776
00:33:12,826 --> 00:33:14,227
All right.

777
00:33:14,327 --> 00:33:15,829
Address to Mr. Ray Loewen,

778
00:33:15,895 --> 00:33:19,650
Chairman, Loewen Group.

779
00:33:19,165 --> 00:33:21,368
Dear Mr. Loewen,
my name is Willie E. Gary.

780
00:33:21,434 --> 00:33:24,237
I've just been appointed lead counsel

781
00:33:24,337 --> 00:33:28,608
in the suit brought against you
by Jeremiah O'Keefe.

782
00:33:28,708 --> 00:33:31,578
In regards to the prior settlement,

783
00:33:31,644 --> 00:33:36,820
the offer you received of $8 million,

784
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:39,252
I hereby rescind that offer.

785
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,188
As of the date of this new letter we have,

786
00:33:42,288 --> 00:33:47,794
the new offer is
in the amount of $100 million.

787
00:33:47,861 --> 00:33:49,929
Whoo. That's what I'm talking about.

788
00:33:49,963 --> 00:33:51,564
Did he just say $100 million?

789
00:33:51,664 --> 00:33:53,400
- As in eight zeros?
- $100 million.

790
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,402
Why don't y'all just relax?
Hear what I'm saying?

791
00:33:55,502 --> 00:33:58,171
It's literally $94 million more
than our original claim.

792
00:33:58,238 --> 00:34:01,107
Sounds to me like your original claim
was about $94 million short.

793
00:34:01,207 --> 00:34:02,509
Uh, yeah, Mr. Gary, perhaps you could

794
00:34:02,542 --> 00:34:04,100
- help us understand...
- $100 million?

795
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,278
It's absurd and you know it.

796
00:34:05,378 --> 00:34:07,247
What you trying to do, destroy this case?

797
00:34:07,313 --> 00:34:10,517
Mike, anybody ever tell you
you got balls the size of a garden slug?

798
00:34:10,617 --> 00:34:13,653
W-Willie, I'm afraid that I agree
with everybody's concerns.

799
00:34:13,753 --> 00:34:15,689
That's a hell of a lot of money.

800
00:34:15,789 --> 00:34:19,192
We throw out a number like that,
we're gonna humiliate ourselves.

801
00:34:19,292 --> 00:34:20,960
Listen, I understand how you feel, Jerry.

802
00:34:20,994 --> 00:34:22,562
But you got to trust me, okay?

803
00:34:22,662 --> 00:34:24,631
- Mm-hmm. Trust him.
- Okay?

804
00:34:24,698 --> 00:34:26,332
Everybody's got to trust me.

805
00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:28,100
- All right?
- Amen.

806
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,869
Now, Cynthia, where were we?

807
00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:32,505
"Starting as of the date of this letter,

808
00:34:32,539 --> 00:34:34,641
"our new settlement demand is now

809
00:34:34,741 --> 00:34:36,976
$100 million."

810
00:34:37,770 --> 00:34:38,478
- -
- MAN 2: Oh, what?

811
00:34:38,478 --> 00:34:40,280
Oh, come on. You got to be kidding me.

812
00:34:40,380 --> 00:34:41,715
- $100 million?
- Who the hell does he think he is?

813
00:34:41,748 --> 00:34:42,782
- Is he crazy?
- Eight zeros, did you count that?

814
00:34:42,816 --> 00:34:45,285
- Eight zeros.
- There's no way that is not a joke.

815
00:34:45,352 --> 00:34:47,821
- That is a joke.
- It looks like a ****ing dozen eggs.

816
00:34:48,988 --> 00:34:50,690
No joke.

817
00:34:51,224 --> 00:34:54,294
Jesus Christ, this O'Keefe guy,
he's a piece of work, no?

818
00:34:54,361 --> 00:34:56,129
Yeah.

819
00:34:56,196 --> 00:34:58,131
Who is this clown he's hired as a lawyer?

820
00:34:58,198 --> 00:35:01,201
Apparently, some guy
by the name of William Gary.

821
00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:04,104
Thank you, Bob, I also read the letter.

822
00:35:04,204 --> 00:35:06,272
But my question is,

823
00:35:06,373 --> 00:35:07,707
who is he?

824
00:35:07,774 --> 00:35:09,420
What's his story?

825
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:10,744
Where did O'Keefe find him?

826
00:35:10,810 --> 00:35:13,246
From what we could dig up,

827
00:35:13,313 --> 00:35:16,416
he's this kind of flashy
personal injury lawyer,

828
00:35:16,483 --> 00:35:18,118
uh, out of Florida.

829
00:35:18,184 --> 00:35:19,719
- Ambulance-chaser type.
- Personal injury?

830
00:35:19,753 --> 00:35:21,287
This is a contract dispute.

831
00:35:21,354 --> 00:35:24,290
Why the hell would he hire
a personal injury lawyer

832
00:35:24,357 --> 00:35:26,292
for a contract dispute?

833
00:35:26,359 --> 00:35:28,328
Maybe they don't have any regular lawyers

834
00:35:28,395 --> 00:35:30,330
down in backwater Mississippi.

835
00:35:30,363 --> 00:35:32,365
You should talk like that more.

836
00:35:32,432 --> 00:35:34,667
Turns out, the case was filed
in some remote county

837
00:35:34,734 --> 00:35:37,170
in the lower region of the state,
called Hinds County.

838
00:35:37,237 --> 00:35:38,772
Yeah? So?

839
00:35:38,872 --> 00:35:41,808
So, Hinds County also happens to be

840
00:35:41,908 --> 00:35:45,445
one of the poorest, and about 70%, uh...

841
00:35:46,546 --> 00:35:48,114
Black.

842
00:35:48,181 --> 00:35:50,116
Oh.

843
00:35:50,183 --> 00:35:52,652
So that's why he was hired.

844
00:35:54,688 --> 00:35:56,356
Because he's Black.

845
00:35:58,240 --> 00:35:59,659
Gary's Black.

846
00:36:02,128 --> 00:36:04,230
He's an African American man.

847
00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:08,201
♪ When... ♪

848
00:36:08,268 --> 00:36:09,903
♪ I... ♪

849
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:12,172
♪ When I ♪

850
00:36:12,238 --> 00:36:15,408
- ♪ Had you ♪
- ♪ Had you ♪

851
00:36:15,475 --> 00:36:21,614
- ♪ I treated you bad ♪
- ♪ Bad ♪

852
00:36:21,681 --> 00:36:23,817
Well, like I said,
like my grandfather said,

853
00:36:23,917 --> 00:36:25,785
"Who in so ever it is..."

854
00:36:25,852 --> 00:36:26,920
I ain't worried about it.

855
00:36:26,986 --> 00:36:30,490
Reg, you're not understanding the whole...

856
00:36:30,557 --> 00:36:31,825
Sorry to interrupt.

857
00:36:31,891 --> 00:36:33,626
We just got the info you requested

858
00:36:33,693 --> 00:36:35,295
on who Loewen appointed as lead counsel.

859
00:36:35,362 --> 00:36:36,463
- May I see that, please? Thank you.
- Well, who is he?

860
00:36:36,496 --> 00:36:37,697
Do we know him?

861
00:36:39,899 --> 00:36:42,535
- She.
- She?

862
00:36:42,602 --> 00:36:45,710
What you talking about, "she"?

863
00:36:45,171 --> 00:36:46,940
Yeah, what does that mean, "she"?

864
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,642
- "She" as in, like, a... like a...
- A woman?

865
00:36:49,743 --> 00:36:52,545
Her name is Mame Downes.

866
00:36:52,612 --> 00:36:55,448
♪ Ooh... ♪

867
00:36:55,515 --> 00:36:57,851
She graduated with her BA
from Howard University.

868
00:36:57,951 --> 00:37:00,653
Oh. That means she just ain't a woman,

869
00:37:00,754 --> 00:37:01,955
- she's a Black woman.
- She's a sister.

870
00:37:01,988 --> 00:37:03,390
Well, what do you know?

871
00:37:03,490 --> 00:37:06,993
We done got out-Blacked
and out-womaned, all in one go.

872
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:16,770
Graduated top of her class
from Harvard Law School.

873
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:18,505
Jesus Christ.

874
00:37:21,941 --> 00:37:23,810
Then went on to clerk two years

875
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:27,747
for Supreme Court Justice
Sandra Day O'Connor.

876
00:37:30,817 --> 00:37:32,952
Three years associate at Paul, Weiss

877
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:36,356
and now currently
the youngest partner ever

878
00:37:36,456 --> 00:37:38,224
at Cranston, Brown and Atwell.

879
00:37:38,324 --> 00:37:39,726
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay, that's impressive.

880
00:37:39,793 --> 00:37:42,395
Friend of mine used to work with her,
over at C, B and A.

881
00:37:42,495 --> 00:37:43,863
And, um...

882
00:37:43,963 --> 00:37:45,832
well...

883
00:37:45,899 --> 00:37:48,902
he told me they had a nickname for her
around the office.

884
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,103
Mm. What was it?

885
00:37:50,203 --> 00:37:51,438
Ain't that right?

886
00:37:51,538 --> 00:37:54,400
"The Python."

887
00:37:54,107 --> 00:37:56,943
On account of her
particular style during cross?

888
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:58,812
- Yes. Yes.
- You know, how she used to strike

889
00:37:58,812 --> 00:38:00,580
when you least expect it.

890
00:38:00,647 --> 00:38:02,349
Mm-hmm. Okay, Ms. Python.

891
00:38:02,449 --> 00:38:04,840
- But you know what?
- Very descriptive.

892
00:38:04,117 --> 00:38:05,752
You know what?

893
00:38:05,819 --> 00:38:08,321
I'm the boa constrictor.

894
00:38:08,421 --> 00:38:09,689
Let's see what she got.

895
00:38:09,789 --> 00:38:12,859
I think we may need
to call the cable company.

896
00:38:12,959 --> 00:38:14,994
Every time I try
and turn on Turner Broadcast,

897
00:38:15,610 --> 00:38:17,831
it's just some weird, empty screen.

898
00:38:17,897 --> 00:38:19,866
Think there's something wrong with it.

899
00:38:19,933 --> 00:38:22,268
There's nothing wrong with it.
I canceled the subscription.

900
00:38:22,369 --> 00:38:25,171
What do you mean, you canceled it?

901
00:38:25,238 --> 00:38:28,608
Annie, those insurance regulators
came by again the other day.

902
00:38:28,708 --> 00:38:31,544
They suspended my license this time.

903
00:38:31,611 --> 00:38:34,881
I'm gonna have to shut the business
down for a while.

904
00:38:34,948 --> 00:38:36,249
What?

905
00:38:37,450 --> 00:38:38,752
What are you talking about?

906
00:38:38,818 --> 00:38:40,754
It's only temporary.

907
00:38:40,820 --> 00:38:43,456
Soon as we get this trial over with,
Loewen makes his restitution,

908
00:38:43,523 --> 00:38:45,325
- we gonna be up and...
- Jerry. Jerry.

909
00:38:45,392 --> 00:38:46,893
You hear yourself?

910
00:38:46,993 --> 00:38:50,630
As soon as Ray Loewen makes restitution?

911
00:38:52,399 --> 00:38:54,901
Do you really know for sure
that's even gonna happen?

912
00:38:58,938 --> 00:39:02,575
I mean, you still haven't told me
how we're paying for all this.

913
00:39:03,643 --> 00:39:06,980
That fancy new lawyer
you just brought in from Florida.

914
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,649
You don't have to worry about him.

915
00:39:11,951 --> 00:39:17,123
Well, I just don't understand why you're
continuing with this ridiculous lawsuit.

916
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:19,192
You can find another buyer

917
00:39:19,292 --> 00:39:20,960
for those three homes.

918
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:22,495
You know that.

919
00:39:23,563 --> 00:39:25,565
Clearly, this is about
something else for you.

920
00:39:25,665 --> 00:39:26,900
Maybe it is.

921
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,169
Maybe I just don't want
to see him get away with it.

922
00:39:29,235 --> 00:39:31,705
Who? Ray Loewen?

923
00:39:32,839 --> 00:39:35,208
My God, Jerry.

924
00:39:35,275 --> 00:39:39,245
What is your obsession with this man?

925
00:39:39,312 --> 00:39:41,481
What do you expect me to do, Annie,

926
00:39:41,581 --> 00:39:44,170
just lay back
and let him walk all over me?

927
00:39:44,117 --> 00:39:47,487
Let him walk all over our family?

928
00:39:47,587 --> 00:39:50,824
What I expect you to do

929
00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:53,326
is to think of me,

930
00:39:53,393 --> 00:39:54,894
at some point.

931
00:39:54,994 --> 00:39:56,329
Hmm.

932
00:39:56,396 --> 00:39:59,366
You don't think we can win.

933
00:40:04,371 --> 00:40:06,600
If you want to know how I'm paying for it,

934
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:07,941
I took out a third mortgage on this house.

935
00:40:19,686 --> 00:40:21,870
How you doing?

936
00:40:21,988 --> 00:40:24,457
Tell me, Willie,
how'd you wind up being a lawyer?

937
00:40:25,725 --> 00:40:27,227
Mm.

938
00:40:28,395 --> 00:40:30,300
Well, that depends.

939
00:40:30,130 --> 00:40:33,533
You want the, um, long or the short story?

940
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,100
That's up to you.

941
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,703
Well,

942
00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:39,272
when I was a young husband,

943
00:40:39,372 --> 00:40:41,708
young father,

944
00:40:41,775 --> 00:40:43,543
me and my wife, we had,
you know, we had a little money,

945
00:40:43,576 --> 00:40:45,645
so we had a little landscaping business.

946
00:40:45,745 --> 00:40:47,547
Real nice, too.

947
00:40:47,614 --> 00:40:50,150
You know, kept-kept all the yards...

948
00:40:50,250 --> 00:40:51,918
fantastic.

949
00:40:51,985 --> 00:40:53,820
But then my wife was like,
"You know what?

950
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,288
I want to move into a bigger place."

951
00:40:55,321 --> 00:40:56,956
I said, "Well, all right.
Let's do that, then."

952
00:40:56,990 --> 00:40:58,825
And so...

953
00:40:58,892 --> 00:41:00,960
got the paper, saw this ad.

954
00:41:01,270 --> 00:41:04,631
Three-bedroom apartment, man.
Real nice.

955
00:41:04,698 --> 00:41:06,900
Uh, nice new complex.

956
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,236
Over there in a white neighborhood
at, uh, Raintree.

957
00:41:10,337 --> 00:41:12,372
So I said, "Yeah, that's what,
that's what we need."

958
00:41:12,439 --> 00:41:14,107
So I called the owner, I said, "Hey, man.

959
00:41:14,207 --> 00:41:17,577
"Me and my family are looking
for a new place.

960
00:41:17,644 --> 00:41:19,279
We want to come to where you are."

961
00:41:19,379 --> 00:41:21,381
I said, "Do you have any vacancies?"

962
00:41:21,448 --> 00:41:24,150
And he says, "Uh, yeah.
Yeah, I got plenty of vacancies, you know?

963
00:41:24,250 --> 00:41:27,187
"Matter of fact, uh, at the end
of the month, you can move in.

964
00:41:27,287 --> 00:41:28,355
Get your lease."

965
00:41:28,455 --> 00:41:30,190
We all looking forward to that day, man.

966
00:41:30,290 --> 00:41:31,524
I mean, we just excited.

967
00:41:31,624 --> 00:41:33,626
You know, just brand-new beginnings,
if you would.

968
00:41:33,693 --> 00:41:35,228
So when the day comes,

969
00:41:35,328 --> 00:41:36,663
I pack everybody in the car.

970
00:41:36,730 --> 00:41:39,990
I got the-the-the, the boys in there,

971
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:41,868
I got my-my wife,
I even got my dog in there, man.

972
00:41:41,935 --> 00:41:44,371
And we just happy, man. We happy.

973
00:41:44,437 --> 00:41:46,573
Uh, and we listening to gospel music.

974
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:48,541
You know, singing, rocking and rolling.

975
00:41:50,143 --> 00:41:51,911
But, um...

976
00:41:51,978 --> 00:41:55,810
when we get there, guy comes out.

977
00:41:55,148 --> 00:41:57,830
I said, "How you doing?" He barely speaks.

978
00:41:57,150 --> 00:41:58,585
He says, "What do you need?"

979
00:41:58,651 --> 00:42:00,253
I said, "I'm the one that, uh,
called you about the vacancies."

980
00:42:00,286 --> 00:42:01,988
He said, "What vacancies?"

981
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,260
I said, "I'm Willie Gary.
I called you about the... the vacancies."

982
00:42:06,126 --> 00:42:07,827
He says, "Oh.

983
00:42:07,894 --> 00:42:09,729
We don't have no more vacancies."

984
00:42:13,166 --> 00:42:14,667
What'd you do?

985
00:42:15,902 --> 00:42:17,437
Tell you what I wanted to do.

986
00:42:18,838 --> 00:42:20,473
Wanted to hurt him.

987
00:42:21,474 --> 00:42:23,430
I mean...

988
00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:25,779
disrespecting me like that
in front of my boys, man.

989
00:42:26,980 --> 00:42:28,848
My boys look up to me.

990
00:42:28,948 --> 00:42:30,283
I'm their everything.

991
00:42:30,350 --> 00:42:31,685
What-what do I tell 'em?

992
00:42:31,785 --> 00:42:33,153
That...

993
00:42:33,253 --> 00:42:35,655
they daddy ain't good enough
to be in an apartment?

994
00:42:36,723 --> 00:42:38,858
What I tell my queen?

995
00:42:39,893 --> 00:42:41,494
That we not good enough?

996
00:42:46,666 --> 00:42:49,502
But I didn't act out.

997
00:42:49,569 --> 00:42:51,538
What I did was,

998
00:42:51,604 --> 00:42:53,373
I went back to that hotel,

999
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,575
and I opened up the phone book.

1000
00:42:55,642 --> 00:42:58,878
Now, I hadn't even thought about
being a lawyer until this happened.

1001
00:42:58,945 --> 00:43:00,447
I opened it up and I...

1002
00:43:00,547 --> 00:43:03,149
First law school I saw,
I said, "Mm. I'm going right there."

1003
00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:05,452
And I did it.

1004
00:43:05,518 --> 00:43:07,253
I enrolled, worked hard,

1005
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,822
I graduated, I passed the bar.

1006
00:43:09,989 --> 00:43:12,125
And I got my own practice.

1007
00:43:13,126 --> 00:43:15,328
And the first thing I did was

1008
00:43:15,395 --> 00:43:17,831
went down to Raintree Apartments

1009
00:43:17,897 --> 00:43:22,902
and *****-slapped him with a five-count
discriminatory practices lawsuit.

1010
00:43:25,405 --> 00:43:28,108
Take that for your vacancies.

1011
00:43:28,208 --> 00:43:30,310
You a fighter.

1012
00:43:31,611 --> 00:43:33,460
Yeah.

1013
00:43:33,113 --> 00:43:34,581
Oh, I'm a fighter.

1014
00:43:34,647 --> 00:43:36,750
You are, too, Jerry.
You're a fighter, man.

1015
00:43:36,816 --> 00:43:38,418
You know why I say you're a fighter?

1016
00:43:38,485 --> 00:43:42,322
Going up against
this big Loewen Group, man...

1017
00:43:42,422 --> 00:43:44,691
Small business owner, man,
that's something, doc.

1018
00:43:44,791 --> 00:43:46,493
That's why we connect.

1019
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:48,395
What made you want to do it?

1020
00:43:49,496 --> 00:43:54,340
'Cause he tried to mess with the one thing
that means the most to me in life:

1021
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:55,802
being able to leave something behind
for my children

1022
00:43:55,835 --> 00:43:58,171
and my grandchildren when I go.

1023
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,442
They have a legacy, Willie.

1024
00:44:03,610 --> 00:44:06,112
And I do mean to pass it on to 'em.

1025
00:44:10,750 --> 00:44:12,952
- Let's play some music.
- I like music, Willie.

1026
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:14,320
Good.

1027
00:44:14,421 --> 00:44:16,556
Steve, look, why don't you go up there
and turn on some music?

1028
00:44:16,556 --> 00:44:19,125
Sure thing, boss.
Anything particular you want to hear?

1029
00:44:19,192 --> 00:44:21,394
You know what my jam is, man.
Tony! Toni! Toné!

1030
00:44:21,494 --> 00:44:23,463
- Wise choice, my brother.
- I like that. Like that.

1031
00:44:23,496 --> 00:44:24,998
You know what's crazy about
Tony! Toni! Toné!?

1032
00:44:25,310 --> 00:44:27,670
Ain't none of 'em named Tony.

1033
00:44:27,167 --> 00:44:28,968
Oh, there it is.

1034
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,503
- Hey.
- Hey. All right.

1035
00:44:30,570 --> 00:44:32,372
- ♪ It feels good ♪
- Hey.

1036
00:44:32,439 --> 00:44:33,940
- ♪ Yeah ♪
- WILLIE: Yeah.

1037
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,109
- Hey.
- ♪ It feels good ♪

1038
00:44:36,209 --> 00:44:37,811
I like that.

1039
00:44:37,911 --> 00:44:39,179
- You like that, Jerry?
- ♪ Oh, it feels good ♪

1040
00:44:39,212 --> 00:44:41,140
- Jerry, you like that?
- Yeah, it's good.

1041
00:44:41,114 --> 00:44:42,449
It feels good?

1042
00:44:42,515 --> 00:44:43,616
♪ It feels good ♪

1043
00:44:45,585 --> 00:44:47,787
♪ Oh, it feels good ♪

1044
00:44:47,854 --> 00:44:49,489
Come on to our side!

1045
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:51,491
Oh, you're-you're my man now, doc.

1046
00:44:51,558 --> 00:44:53,360
- You're my man now, baby.
- ♪ It feels good ♪

1047
00:44:54,294 --> 00:44:56,529
♪ It sure feels good to me. ♪

1048
00:44:56,629 --> 00:44:58,310
This is nice.

1049
00:44:59,566 --> 00:45:01,340
- Hey, hey.
- Hi.

1050
00:45:01,101 --> 00:45:02,469
Welcome to Hotel Intercontinental.

1051
00:45:02,502 --> 00:45:05,271
Well, thank you. I have a reservation
for Gary, Willie Gary.

1052
00:45:05,372 --> 00:45:06,873
Absolutely.

1053
00:45:06,940 --> 00:45:08,641
- And welcome to Jackson, Mr. Gary.
- Mm-hmm. Thank you.

1054
00:45:08,641 --> 00:45:10,410
If you have a credit card
you'd like me to run,

1055
00:45:10,443 --> 00:45:12,245
I can go ahead and get you all settled in.

1056
00:45:12,312 --> 00:45:13,580
- Mm-hmm.
- Thank you.

1057
00:45:13,646 --> 00:45:16,416
Hey, hey, so don't look now, but that's,
over there, that's Loewen's legal team.

1058
00:45:16,449 --> 00:45:18,618
Where-where's that? Hmm.

1059
00:45:21,755 --> 00:45:23,823
Jesus Christ.

1060
00:45:23,890 --> 00:45:26,860
It's like a who's who of every prominent
Black lawyer in the country.

1061
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,561
You actually recognize all of them?

1062
00:45:28,661 --> 00:45:31,231
Okay, so, that guy over there,
that's Howard Pfieffer.

1063
00:45:31,331 --> 00:45:33,500
- Mm.
- He's a former state representative

1064
00:45:33,566 --> 00:45:36,202
and current president
of the DC bar association. -Mm.

1065
00:45:36,269 --> 00:45:38,538
That gentleman there,
that's Richard Mayfield.

1066
00:45:38,605 --> 00:45:40,707
He's one of the leading experts
on antitrust

1067
00:45:40,774 --> 00:45:42,809
and complex business litigation.

1068
00:45:42,909 --> 00:45:45,812
And that gentleman, right over there,
that-that's Walter Bell.

1069
00:45:45,912 --> 00:45:48,114
He's a former
Supreme Court Justice of Mississippi.

1070
00:45:48,181 --> 00:45:49,482
****.

1071
00:45:49,582 --> 00:45:51,651
Man, Loewen must have spent
a fortune on these dudes.

1072
00:45:51,751 --> 00:45:54,120
You know what? She don't actually look
as bad as I thought she was gonna look.

1073
00:45:54,154 --> 00:45:56,623
What's her name?
Uh, uh, Mammy, May, Mame?

1074
00:45:56,690 --> 00:45:57,891
Mammy, Mammy Downes?

1075
00:45:57,991 --> 00:45:59,926
- Seriously? Is that all you have to say?
- Yeah.

1076
00:45:59,959 --> 00:46:02,495
That's all I got to say
'cause they all look like chumps to me.

1077
00:46:03,363 --> 00:46:05,650
Matter of fact, could you do me a favor?

1078
00:46:05,165 --> 00:46:08,735
Could you send your finest bottle of, uh,
champagne over there to that table?

1079
00:46:08,835 --> 00:46:10,537
Certainly. Do you have a preference?

1080
00:46:10,603 --> 00:46:12,872
- What you got?
- We have Dom, Moët,

1081
00:46:12,939 --> 00:46:14,107
- Cristal...
- Cristal.

1082
00:46:14,207 --> 00:46:15,308
- Cristal.
- That's what we need.

1083
00:46:15,308 --> 00:46:16,409
Send some Cristal over there.

1084
00:46:16,443 --> 00:46:19,279
Make sure that you say that it's, uh,
compliments of Mr. Willie Gary.

1085
00:46:19,379 --> 00:46:21,140
Hey. Seriously, man?

1086
00:46:21,114 --> 00:46:23,830
- Please don't do that.
- Oh, seriously, Hal.

1087
00:46:23,149 --> 00:46:24,584
- Shut up.
- Uh...

1088
00:46:24,651 --> 00:46:27,654
Listen, I always say this:

1089
00:46:27,754 --> 00:46:29,856
You see me fighting a bear?
Pour honey on me.

1090
00:46:29,956 --> 00:46:32,659
We're just gonna pour a little honey.

1091
00:46:34,327 --> 00:46:36,162
Well, we keep the strategy simple.

1092
00:46:36,229 --> 00:46:38,431
Firmly cementing
the validity of the document

1093
00:46:38,531 --> 00:46:40,600
as a contract in the jury's mind.

1094
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:42,836
That's definitely gonna be
the defense strategy, too.

1095
00:46:42,902 --> 00:46:45,338
Except they'll be focused on proving
how it's not a contract.

1096
00:46:45,405 --> 00:46:46,873
Okay, look,
we got to be honest about this.

1097
00:46:46,906 --> 00:46:49,750
They're likely gonna be
a lot better at this than we are,

1098
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:51,578
considering this is
their area of expertise.

1099
00:46:51,644 --> 00:46:55,248
I-I say we just forget
about all that contract mumbo jumbo.

1100
00:46:55,315 --> 00:46:57,851
Bog the jury down
with a whole bunch of information

1101
00:46:57,951 --> 00:46:59,520
that we know they ain't interested in.

1102
00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:01,210
Personally, what I think we gotta do...

1103
00:47:01,121 --> 00:47:02,789
What we gotta prove, rather...

1104
00:47:02,856 --> 00:47:04,190
Is motive.

1105
00:47:04,290 --> 00:47:06,226
We center our argument
squarely on the issue

1106
00:47:06,326 --> 00:47:08,728
of Loewen Group stalling on closing.

1107
00:47:08,828 --> 00:47:10,397
And show what they had to gain from it.

1108
00:47:10,463 --> 00:47:12,999
- Uh, I'm not so sure.
- What? What, Hal?

1109
00:47:13,660 --> 00:47:14,534
- What-what you ain't sure about?
- What? Hal?

1110
00:47:14,567 --> 00:47:16,269
What I mean is,
I'm not so sure we can actually prove

1111
00:47:16,269 --> 00:47:18,405
that the Loewen Group had motive.

1112
00:47:18,505 --> 00:47:20,707
Right? Unless we have
some kind of internal company memo.

1113
00:47:20,740 --> 00:47:23,430
Or someone just openly admits it.

1114
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:24,978
Like, how do you actually prove

1115
00:47:25,780 --> 00:47:26,813
that the stalling was intentional?

1116
00:47:26,913 --> 00:47:29,949
Well, we're obviously never
going to be able to prove that.

1117
00:47:32,452 --> 00:47:35,789
Truth is, we don't have a snowball's
chance in hell of winning this case.

1118
00:47:37,624 --> 00:47:39,726
♪ Some people call me ♪

1119
00:47:40,727 --> 00:47:43,329
♪ Broadway Tramp now ♪

1120
00:47:45,365 --> 00:47:48,735
- ♪ They even said, yes, they did ♪
- WILLIE: What's happening, doc?

1121
00:47:48,835 --> 00:47:50,870
- ♪ I had no place to stay... ♪
- BARTENDER: Yeah, how you doing, boss?

1122
00:47:50,904 --> 00:47:53,206
I'm good, Max.
Hey, how 'bout you give me your...

1123
00:47:53,273 --> 00:47:54,974
your strongest ginger ale?

1124
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:56,309
Sure thing.

1125
00:47:56,409 --> 00:47:57,477
Coming right up.

1126
00:47:57,577 --> 00:47:58,745
How's your night been?

1127
00:47:58,812 --> 00:48:00,447
Not too bad. Livin'.

1128
00:48:00,547 --> 00:48:01,681
Good. Good, good.

1129
00:48:01,781 --> 00:48:05,585
- ♪ Gotta let a woman be a woman ♪
- Strongest ginger ale in Mississippi.

1130
00:48:05,652 --> 00:48:08,880
- Thank you.
- ♪ And let a man be a man ♪

1131
00:48:08,154 --> 00:48:10,724
Yeah, it's not too bad, so... I...

1132
00:48:10,824 --> 00:48:13,626
- ♪ Gotta let a woman be a woman ♪
- Yeah, she's been here for a while.

1133
00:48:14,327 --> 00:48:16,863
♪ And let a man be a man ♪

1134
00:48:16,963 --> 00:48:18,898
♪ Well, listen... ♪

1135
00:48:18,998 --> 00:48:20,934
I believe it's Ms. Downes, isn't it?

1136
00:48:22,502 --> 00:48:23,903
I'm Willie Gary.

1137
00:48:26,206 --> 00:48:28,141
You look thinner on TV.

1138
00:48:28,241 --> 00:48:29,976
Mind if I sit down?

1139
00:48:36,416 --> 00:48:38,485
You know,
I've actually never did this before.

1140
00:48:38,585 --> 00:48:42,789
Where it's sitting down
with the opposing counsel, the...

1141
00:48:42,856 --> 00:48:44,891
drinks and things like that, you know.

1142
00:48:44,991 --> 00:48:46,726
Music, candles.

1143
00:48:46,826 --> 00:48:48,862
It's like we almost, uh,

1144
00:48:48,962 --> 00:48:50,864
on a date.

1145
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,869
Or maybe not.

1146
00:48:58,571 --> 00:49:01,241
You say you're from Compton,
but I'm trying to understand

1147
00:49:01,307 --> 00:49:04,444
why you taking all these
fancy white cases.

1148
00:49:04,544 --> 00:49:06,460
I could ask you the same question.

1149
00:49:06,112 --> 00:49:08,248
- Couldn't I?
- Yeah, well, I actually believe

1150
00:49:08,314 --> 00:49:09,783
in my case, Ms. Downes.

1151
00:49:09,849 --> 00:49:11,518
Oh, well, I actually believe in mine, too,
Mr. Gary.

1152
00:49:11,518 --> 00:49:12,986
Well, that puts us in a very

1153
00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:14,187
- precarious situation then, all right,
- Does it?

1154
00:49:14,187 --> 00:49:16,122
Because one of us gonna win
and one's gonna lose.

1155
00:49:16,189 --> 00:49:17,557
- I think that's how this goes, yes.
- Mm-hmm.

1156
00:49:17,557 --> 00:49:19,859
But it's different
in my situation, because

1157
00:49:19,959 --> 00:49:21,695
I'm actually Black employed.

1158
00:49:21,795 --> 00:49:23,563
See, I don't work for the man.

1159
00:49:23,663 --> 00:49:25,131
- Oh.
- See, I-I work for Willie Gary,

1160
00:49:25,165 --> 00:49:26,833
which is myself. I'm employed

1161
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:28,401
- to myself...
- Tell me, tell me.

1162
00:49:28,501 --> 00:49:31,370
- For myself.
- Where should I be working, huh?

1163
00:49:31,104 --> 00:49:32,906
You tell me. Come on. School me.

1164
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,774
What-what tiny little piece of the pie

1165
00:49:34,874 --> 00:49:37,210
would you be comfortable
allotting to someone like me?

1166
00:49:37,277 --> 00:49:39,379
What, should I be working pro bono?

1167
00:49:39,446 --> 00:49:41,247
Or maybe I should be in
some shitty DA's office,

1168
00:49:41,281 --> 00:49:42,782
trying eviction cases.

1169
00:49:42,849 --> 00:49:44,150
Would that make you comfortable?

1170
00:49:44,250 --> 00:49:45,919
- Would you be more happy with that?
- Hold on a second.

1171
00:49:45,952 --> 00:49:48,621
Hold on, hold on.
We-we-we not at trial right now.

1172
00:49:48,688 --> 00:49:51,825
You said you were trying to school me,
so come on, now, school me.

1173
00:49:51,891 --> 00:49:55,462
I don't know how much you know about me,
but I'm the son of a sharecropper.

1174
00:49:55,528 --> 00:49:57,997
I was eight years old

1175
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,734
out there in them sugarcane fields,
you know.

1176
00:50:00,834 --> 00:50:02,435
Working. Me.

1177
00:50:02,535 --> 00:50:04,871
But now, you know, I got...

1178
00:50:04,938 --> 00:50:07,640
you know, mansions and...

1179
00:50:07,741 --> 00:50:09,909
Rolls-Royce and Bentleys.

1180
00:50:09,976 --> 00:50:11,911
- My own private plane.
- I mean,

1181
00:50:11,978 --> 00:50:13,646
what it sounds like is

1182
00:50:13,747 --> 00:50:17,617
we're both living our own little version
of the American dream.

1183
00:50:17,684 --> 00:50:19,986
A little less red, white and blue

1184
00:50:20,860 --> 00:50:22,622
and a little more, uh, um...

1185
00:50:22,689 --> 00:50:25,580
caramel and stripes and...

1186
00:50:30,163 --> 00:50:32,732
Although, I do believe that the

1187
00:50:32,832 --> 00:50:35,568
Black American dream is quite different
than the white American dream.

1188
00:50:35,668 --> 00:50:36,736
Case in point.

1189
00:50:38,505 --> 00:50:40,106
O.J. trial, hmm?

1190
00:50:40,206 --> 00:50:41,574
Supposed to be the "trial of the century."

1191
00:50:41,608 --> 00:50:43,430
It's a circus.

1192
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:44,210
You want to go there?

1193
00:50:44,277 --> 00:50:46,112
Nah, that's murky territory.

1194
00:50:46,212 --> 00:50:47,614
Where you leaning?

1195
00:50:47,714 --> 00:50:50,350
Is... is he innocent? Or is he guilty?

1196
00:50:50,450 --> 00:50:52,285
Doesn't matter.

1197
00:50:52,352 --> 00:50:54,954
'Cause O.J.'s not the one
that's on trial right now.

1198
00:50:55,210 --> 00:50:57,123
White frontier justice,

1199
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:58,992
- that's what's on trial.
- Mm.

1200
00:50:59,590 --> 00:51:01,227
I hear that.

1201
00:51:01,327 --> 00:51:02,962
Gun to your head, though.

1202
00:51:03,290 --> 00:51:04,431
- Gun to my head?
- Gun to your head.

1203
00:51:04,464 --> 00:51:05,665
- I don't know now.
- Gun to your head,

1204
00:51:05,699 --> 00:51:07,667
- Ms. Downes, gun to your head.
- Come on, trying to put a gun to my head.

1205
00:51:07,701 --> 00:51:09,350
- Does anyone hear this?
- Got a gun... gun to your head now.

1206
00:51:09,690 --> 00:51:10,737
Oh, hell nah.

1207
00:51:10,837 --> 00:51:12,706
Opportunity to be the lead counsel
on the defense

1208
00:51:12,739 --> 00:51:15,108
or a opportunity to be
the lead prosecutor,

1209
00:51:15,208 --> 00:51:17,143
which one do you choose?

1210
00:51:17,243 --> 00:51:19,145
Oh, that's... that's a tricky one.

1211
00:51:19,245 --> 00:51:21,214
- Yeah, I know. It's tough, it's tough.
- Defense.

1212
00:51:22,615 --> 00:51:24,117
His *** is guilty.

1213
00:51:24,184 --> 00:51:27,420
And I've never defended someone
who I knew was guilty before.

1214
00:51:27,487 --> 00:51:29,389
You know what they say:

1215
00:51:29,489 --> 00:51:31,491
Lawyer's got to try that at least once.

1216
00:51:31,558 --> 00:51:33,260
Remember these words:

1217
00:51:33,126 --> 00:51:34,894
- if it doesn't fit...
- Hmm.

1218
00:51:34,994 --> 00:51:36,529
You must acquit.

1219
00:51:38,832 --> 00:51:39,933
Prosecution.

1220
00:51:40,330 --> 00:51:41,234
Yeah?

1221
00:51:41,334 --> 00:51:43,370
I have this reoccurring dream

1222
00:51:43,436 --> 00:51:45,705
that I'm prosecuting a case

1223
00:51:45,772 --> 00:51:49,109
against that slick-*** Johnnie Cochran.

1224
00:51:49,209 --> 00:51:51,344
- Mm.
- Him in all them fancy suits and shit...

1225
00:51:51,378 --> 00:51:53,580
Okay. Well, how does this dream end?

1226
00:51:53,646 --> 00:51:55,615
I wipe the floor with him.

1227
00:51:56,616 --> 00:51:58,785
I wipe the floor with his ***.

1228
00:52:01,821 --> 00:52:03,156
Oh.

1229
00:52:03,256 --> 00:52:04,624
Let me get that.

1230
00:52:04,691 --> 00:52:05,892
Oh, absolutely not.

1231
00:52:07,394 --> 00:52:09,529
You were so, uh,

1232
00:52:09,629 --> 00:52:12,532
you were so kind and generous to send me

1233
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:13,833
a bottle of...

1234
00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:15,268
- What was that called?
- Cristal.

1235
00:52:16,403 --> 00:52:19,500
Allow me to return the favor,
just this once.

1236
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:21,641
Although, I wouldn't get too used

1237
00:52:21,741 --> 00:52:24,244
to me being kind to you, Mr. Gary.

1238
00:52:25,245 --> 00:52:28,181
Once we begin that... trial...

1239
00:52:28,281 --> 00:52:30,830
nigga, I will destroy you.

1240
00:52:32,786 --> 00:52:34,454
Have a good night.

1241
00:52:37,357 --> 00:52:38,992
♪ Hold tight... ♪

1242
00:52:39,590 --> 00:52:41,461
Good morning, Jackson, Mississippi.

1243
00:52:41,528 --> 00:52:43,897
73 degrees, going up to a high of 78.

1244
00:52:43,997 --> 00:52:47,330
No rain in the forecast
for the next few days.

1245
00:52:51,705 --> 00:52:54,708
Let me start off by saying that this case

1246
00:52:54,774 --> 00:52:56,409
that you're about to hear

1247
00:52:56,476 --> 00:52:58,478
is a case...

1248
00:53:02,782 --> 00:53:05,151
♪ If you want to make this feeling stay ♪

1249
00:53:05,251 --> 00:53:06,519
♪ Hold tight... ♪

1250
00:53:09,889 --> 00:53:13,326
Jurors, this... this trial

1251
00:53:13,393 --> 00:53:17,230
deals with the oldest sin known to man.

1252
00:53:17,330 --> 00:53:18,465
You're pointing too much, Gary.

1253
00:53:18,498 --> 00:53:19,933
You're pointing...
You're pointing too much.

1254
00:53:19,933 --> 00:53:21,101
♪ Stay ♪

1255
00:53:21,201 --> 00:53:22,268
♪ Hold tight ♪

1256
00:53:22,369 --> 00:53:25,500
This just simply wasn't personal,
it was just business.

1257
00:53:25,710 --> 00:53:26,439
And they had...

1258
00:53:26,539 --> 00:53:28,375
- ♪ Stay, hold tight ♪
- ****.

1259
00:53:31,411 --> 00:53:32,879
♪ Hold tight ♪

1260
00:53:34,481 --> 00:53:37,417
♪ Don't let this moment fade away ♪

1261
00:53:37,484 --> 00:53:39,190
♪ Hold tight. ♪

1262
00:53:47,794 --> 00:53:49,295
Hey, hey, hey. Wait, wait.

1263
00:53:49,362 --> 00:53:51,398
- What's the matter?
- We can't split the pole.

1264
00:53:51,498 --> 00:53:52,532
Can't split the pole. Now come on.

1265
00:53:52,565 --> 00:53:54,868
- No, come on, we can't split the pole.
- This new to you?

1266
00:53:54,901 --> 00:53:55,935
Huddle up.

1267
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,370
Be unlucky. Let's go.

1268
00:53:57,437 --> 00:53:58,905
Come on.

1269
00:54:05,912 --> 00:54:08,615
All rise, all rise.

1270
00:54:08,682 --> 00:54:11,351
The court is now in session,
pursuant to the adjournment.

1271
00:54:11,451 --> 00:54:13,353
Hear ye, hear ye.

1272
00:54:13,453 --> 00:54:16,790
All persons having business
with this honorable court, draw near.

1273
00:54:16,856 --> 00:54:19,459
Give your attention
and you shall be heard.

1274
00:54:19,526 --> 00:54:22,228
The Honorable Judge James E. Graves,

1275
00:54:22,328 --> 00:54:24,464
circuit county judge
for the First Judicial District

1276
00:54:24,531 --> 00:54:26,766
of Hinds County, Mississippi, presiding.

1277
00:54:28,401 --> 00:54:30,870
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...

1278
00:54:31,938 --> 00:54:33,273
How y'all doing?

1279
00:54:34,374 --> 00:54:35,742
Thank you for being here.

1280
00:54:35,809 --> 00:54:39,245
This case here is really about
the oldest sin known to man.

1281
00:54:39,312 --> 00:54:40,447
Contracts.

1282
00:54:40,547 --> 00:54:41,981
Plain and simple.

1283
00:54:42,820 --> 00:54:44,484
Now, Mr. Gary would have you believe

1284
00:54:44,584 --> 00:54:46,319
that this case is about...

1285
00:54:46,419 --> 00:54:47,687
- Greed.
- And while that sounds,

1286
00:54:47,687 --> 00:54:51,691
uh, entertaining and a bit dramatic...

1287
00:54:51,791 --> 00:54:53,960
We know for a fact
that the deal had already been approved

1288
00:54:53,993 --> 00:54:55,362
by Loewen and his board.

1289
00:54:55,462 --> 00:54:58,531
They crafted every single aspect,
outlined it,

1290
00:54:58,598 --> 00:55:00,660
and put it down in writing.

1291
00:55:00,333 --> 00:55:01,368
That's a contract.

1292
00:55:01,434 --> 00:55:03,570
How can it be a binding contract

1293
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:04,904
between two parties

1294
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:07,307
if one of the parties
didn't sign the contract?

1295
00:55:07,407 --> 00:55:09,409
Y'all, these people lie.

1296
00:55:11,911 --> 00:55:13,480
That's what it boils down to.

1297
00:55:13,580 --> 00:55:17,417
So why did Mr. O'Keefe
have such a-a-a panic,

1298
00:55:17,484 --> 00:55:19,586
such an urgency,

1299
00:55:19,652 --> 00:55:21,421
such a desperation

1300
00:55:21,488 --> 00:55:23,356
for this deal to close?

1301
00:55:23,456 --> 00:55:24,958
Why?

1302
00:55:25,250 --> 00:55:28,228
Well, because everything in his life

1303
00:55:28,328 --> 00:55:29,896
hinged on this deal.

1304
00:55:29,996 --> 00:55:31,431
Everything.

1305
00:55:31,531 --> 00:55:33,233
For the Loewen Group, not so much.

1306
00:55:33,333 --> 00:55:35,835
They had one goal in mind.

1307
00:55:37,370 --> 00:55:38,605
Stall him out.

1308
00:55:39,739 --> 00:55:41,241
Stall him out.

1309
00:55:42,742 --> 00:55:43,877
It wasn't personal.

1310
00:55:43,943 --> 00:55:45,612
He just got impatient.

1311
00:55:57,223 --> 00:56:00,827
In fact, there is such a thing

1312
00:56:00,894 --> 00:56:04,564
uh, as an anticipatory breach of contract.

1313
00:56:04,664 --> 00:56:06,332
And this is when,

1314
00:56:06,399 --> 00:56:10,360
though the actual breach
has not yet occurred,

1315
00:56:10,103 --> 00:56:12,339
one of the involved parties,

1316
00:56:12,405 --> 00:56:17,243
heretofore referred to
as the "soon to be breaching party,"

1317
00:56:17,310 --> 00:56:19,479
will not fulfill their obligations

1318
00:56:19,579 --> 00:56:22,949
set forth by the terms of the agreement.

1319
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,200
When a situation like this arises,

1320
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,457
it is my opinion that...

1321
00:56:30,523 --> 00:56:35,280
it is well within the means of dispute

1322
00:56:35,128 --> 00:56:36,863
for this contract.

1323
00:56:36,963 --> 00:56:37,997
- Wake your *** up!
- Whoa!

1324
00:56:38,310 --> 00:56:39,320
- Whoa.
- Jesus Christ.

1325
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:40,333
Wake up!

1326
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,935
What are we doing?
We sit up in these books,

1327
00:56:41,935 --> 00:56:43,937
talking about contracts every single day.

1328
00:56:44,370 --> 00:56:45,271
For what?

1329
00:56:45,372 --> 00:56:47,807
We putting 'em to sleep.

1330
00:56:47,907 --> 00:56:50,443
We done lost our connection,
lost our edge.

1331
00:56:50,543 --> 00:56:52,612
And what do I get from y'all? Nothing.

1332
00:56:55,810 --> 00:56:56,750
I gotta make the decision.

1333
00:56:57,517 --> 00:56:58,752
I'm-a put Jerry on.

1334
00:57:00,620 --> 00:57:02,489
- No, no, no.
- You can't do that.

1335
00:57:02,589 --> 00:57:04,157
We put him on next week.

1336
00:57:04,190 --> 00:57:05,925
You hard of hearing?
I'm putting him on.

1337
00:57:05,959 --> 00:57:07,961
We got to shake it up.
And plus, he's a great witness.

1338
00:57:07,994 --> 00:57:11,131
You said it yourself. He's a good witness,
he's honest, he's-he's-he's,

1339
00:57:11,197 --> 00:57:12,699
he's a family man,

1340
00:57:12,766 --> 00:57:14,200
he's-he's a war hero.

1341
00:57:14,267 --> 00:57:15,602
To civil-civil rights.

1342
00:57:15,702 --> 00:57:17,170
Everything he did for Black folk?

1343
00:57:17,237 --> 00:57:18,638
We put him in front of that jury,
he gonna play 'em.

1344
00:57:18,672 --> 00:57:20,674
It is much too soon
to put Jerry on the stand.

1345
00:57:20,707 --> 00:57:22,976
It's much too early in the trial.
We don't have all the information yet.

1346
00:57:22,976 --> 00:57:24,411
It ain't never too soon with me, Mike.

1347
00:57:24,444 --> 00:57:25,912
- It's never too soon with me.
- Willie.

1348
00:57:25,945 --> 00:57:27,147
We know nothing about Mame yet.

1349
00:57:27,147 --> 00:57:29,783
We've only seen her interview,
what, technical witnesses?

1350
00:57:29,849 --> 00:57:32,118
We know nothing
about her real cross-examination style.

1351
00:57:32,185 --> 00:57:34,320
Nor know how actually dangerous she is.

1352
00:57:34,421 --> 00:57:36,523
Y'all don't know y'all ***
from a hole in the ground.

1353
00:57:36,523 --> 00:57:38,992
Now I made the decision.

1354
00:57:39,590 --> 00:57:41,561
You can either get on board
or you can get the **** out.

1355
00:57:44,831 --> 00:57:46,466
Let's talk about some of your values.

1356
00:57:46,499 --> 00:57:49,869
Because, if I'm not mistaken, Jerry,
you an eight-time decorated hero.

1357
00:57:49,936 --> 00:57:51,905
You got the Air Medal, the Navy Medal.

1358
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:55,208
You got the, you got the Flying Cross.

1359
00:57:55,275 --> 00:57:58,878
And you did all of that
in the sacrifice for your country.

1360
00:57:58,945 --> 00:58:01,614
Well, I don't think war's anything
to be celebrated.

1361
00:58:01,681 --> 00:58:04,851
But I did serve my country
and quite proudly.

1362
00:58:04,951 --> 00:58:06,619
Hmm. Thank you for your service.

1363
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,323
But you didn't stop there.
You came back to your county,

1364
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:11,624
you took over the family business,

1365
00:58:11,658 --> 00:58:13,626
and then, uh, you did what I call

1366
00:58:13,693 --> 00:58:15,595
you jumped out of the frying pan
and into the fire, man.

1367
00:58:15,628 --> 00:58:17,630
You wanted to be in politics, didn't you?

1368
00:58:17,697 --> 00:58:19,566
You ran for mayor
in your home town in Biloxi.

1369
00:58:19,666 --> 00:58:21,601
I ran twice and served two terms as mayor,

1370
00:58:21,701 --> 00:58:25,605
from 1974 until 1982.

1371
00:58:25,705 --> 00:58:27,440
And I understand, in one of those terms,

1372
00:58:27,540 --> 00:58:30,977
that a very friendly group of people
came to visit you.

1373
00:58:32,278 --> 00:58:33,446
The Ku Klux Klan.

1374
00:58:33,546 --> 00:58:35,150
Objection, Your Honor.

1375
00:58:35,115 --> 00:58:37,350
What is the relevance
to this line of questioning?

1376
00:58:37,450 --> 00:58:39,190
- Overruled, Ms. Downes.
- We are in a case about contracts,

1377
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:40,487
Your Honor.

1378
00:58:40,587 --> 00:58:42,589
You may answer that question.

1379
00:58:44,190 --> 00:58:47,394
I denied them a permit
to demonstrate in Biloxi.

1380
00:58:47,494 --> 00:58:51,564
You told the Ku Klux Klan

1381
00:58:51,664 --> 00:58:54,601
in Biloxi, Mississippi, "No."

1382
00:58:54,701 --> 00:58:57,337
Now, flying warplanes is one thing,

1383
00:58:57,404 --> 00:59:00,473
but to tell the Klan "no" at that time,
that's a different type of bravery.

1384
00:59:02,776 --> 00:59:05,311
Jerry, I've gotten
an opportunity to know you.

1385
00:59:05,412 --> 00:59:06,980
You and your family.

1386
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,916
But these good folks here have not.

1387
00:59:09,983 --> 00:59:13,253
I just want to ask you,
what are your values?

1388
00:59:13,319 --> 00:59:16,389
What is important to you?

1389
00:59:16,489 --> 00:59:18,892
Mr. O'Keefe.

1390
00:59:18,992 --> 00:59:21,828
Good day. How are you?

1391
00:59:21,895 --> 00:59:23,663
I'm doing well, thank you.

1392
00:59:23,730 --> 00:59:25,665
You are? Good.

1393
00:59:40,146 --> 00:59:41,147
Uh...

1394
00:59:41,247 --> 00:59:44,918
having just listened to the testimony
you gave,

1395
00:59:44,984 --> 00:59:48,455
I think it's fair to say
that the real, material substance

1396
00:59:48,521 --> 00:59:51,291
centered on character.
Would you agree?

1397
00:59:51,358 --> 00:59:53,360
Yes. I-I agree.

1398
00:59:54,728 --> 00:59:56,863
I couldn't hear that. Can you speak up?

1399
00:59:56,963 --> 00:59:58,998
I said yes, ma'am, I agree.

1400
00:59:59,650 --> 01:00:00,600
Okay, character.

1401
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:03,103
Let's talk about character.

1402
01:00:03,203 --> 01:00:05,672
The overall insinuation
being made is that,

1403
01:00:05,739 --> 01:00:07,941
while you are a man of honor,

1404
01:00:08,410 --> 01:00:10,643
of strong moral principles,

1405
01:00:10,744 --> 01:00:13,980
according to you, my client is not.

1406
01:00:15,181 --> 01:00:18,651
I think Mr. Loewen and I have
very different approaches to...

1407
01:00:18,752 --> 01:00:20,787
As to how to deal with people in business.

1408
01:00:20,854 --> 01:00:22,989
Ah. "In business."

1409
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,358
Yes. Right, okay.

1410
01:00:25,458 --> 01:00:27,794
Something I'm curious about...

1411
01:00:27,861 --> 01:00:32,499
How did you end up needing to sell
those funeral homes to Mr. Loewen?

1412
01:00:32,565 --> 01:00:35,235
Well, I had run into a little bit
of financial trouble.

1413
01:00:35,335 --> 01:00:37,570
What kind of financial trouble?

1414
01:00:40,607 --> 01:00:42,409
Huh?

1415
01:00:42,475 --> 01:00:45,245
Because I'm, uh, pretty sure

1416
01:00:45,311 --> 01:00:49,749
the actual reason you so desperately
needed to sell at the time that you did

1417
01:00:49,816 --> 01:00:52,852
is because the Mississippi
state insurance commission

1418
01:00:52,952 --> 01:00:54,788
was about to revoke your license.

1419
01:00:54,854 --> 01:00:55,989
Is that correct?

1420
01:00:56,890 --> 01:00:58,191
As a matter of fact, your license

1421
01:00:58,291 --> 01:01:01,227
to sell insurance
in the state of Mississippi

1422
01:01:01,327 --> 01:01:03,730
is currently under suspension.

1423
01:01:03,830 --> 01:01:05,498
Can we agree that
that is a true statement,

1424
01:01:05,532 --> 01:01:07,100
- Mr. O'Keefe?
- No, we cannot.

1425
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,903
Because it's a lot more
complicated than that.

1426
01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:11,738
Enlighten me.
How is it more complicated?

1427
01:01:11,838 --> 01:01:13,707
Was your license suspended

1428
01:01:13,773 --> 01:01:15,308
- or was it not?
- Objection, Your Honor,

1429
01:01:15,308 --> 01:01:18,211
- on the simple fact that she's just angry.
- Overruled.

1430
01:01:18,278 --> 01:01:20,130
- It's a yes or no question.
- We already knew

1431
01:01:20,460 --> 01:01:21,648
- that he was in financial trouble.
- He said "overruled."

1432
01:01:21,648 --> 01:01:22,849
Overruled.

1433
01:01:22,949 --> 01:01:25,180
Well, the real truth here is that

1434
01:01:25,118 --> 01:01:27,821
you lost your license

1435
01:01:27,921 --> 01:01:32,459
because you got involved in some
shady savings and loans business deal

1436
01:01:32,525 --> 01:01:35,528
with a man that, if I'm-I'm not mistaken,

1437
01:01:35,628 --> 01:01:38,565
is currently in jail right now.

1438
01:01:38,665 --> 01:01:40,100
- Your Honor, objection.
- Can I ask you something?

1439
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:41,267
This is not on trial here today.

1440
01:01:41,267 --> 01:01:42,535
- Overruled.
- Was the money that you used

1441
01:01:42,569 --> 01:01:44,871
to finance this deal,
was that money yours?

1442
01:01:44,938 --> 01:01:46,740
I was responsible for that money.

1443
01:01:46,806 --> 01:01:48,575
You used other people's money.

1444
01:01:48,641 --> 01:01:51,444
Actually, you used your clients' money

1445
01:01:51,544 --> 01:01:55,315
to finance your involvement
in said "business deal"

1446
01:01:55,415 --> 01:01:57,784
with a now-convicted felon.

1447
01:01:57,851 --> 01:01:59,520
- Am I correct?
- Objection, Your Honor.

1448
01:01:59,850 --> 01:02:00,453
Am I correct, Mr. O'Keefe?

1449
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:01,788
This has nothing to do with this case.
-Overruled.

1450
01:02:01,821 --> 01:02:04,124
- Am I correct, Mr. O'Keefe?
- That's not how I would characterize

1451
01:02:04,157 --> 01:02:05,325
- this at all.
- I mean, is it possible

1452
01:02:05,358 --> 01:02:06,860
that this entire case

1453
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,194
stems from jealousy?

1454
01:02:08,294 --> 01:02:09,896
Objection, Your Honor.
We're talking about emotions?

1455
01:02:09,896 --> 01:02:10,897
- Jealousy?
- I mean,

1456
01:02:10,997 --> 01:02:12,332
- Mr. O'Keefe...
- Overruled.

1457
01:02:12,365 --> 01:02:14,667
You said yourself that
you and Mr. Loewen have

1458
01:02:14,734 --> 01:02:16,169
very different ways of doing business,

1459
01:02:16,202 --> 01:02:18,705
and that might be the truest statement
you've said all day long,

1460
01:02:18,738 --> 01:02:20,373
because, like you,

1461
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,543
Mr. Loewen inherited a business
from his father.

1462
01:02:23,610 --> 01:02:25,712
However, unlike you, he was able to build

1463
01:02:25,779 --> 01:02:28,915
that business into
a multimillion-dollar empire.

1464
01:02:28,982 --> 01:02:32,318
Meanwhile, what has become
of your father's legacy?

1465
01:02:46,166 --> 01:02:47,567
Jerry! Hold up, now!

1466
01:02:47,667 --> 01:02:49,102
Jerry! Wait up, will you?

1467
01:02:49,202 --> 01:02:50,336
Jerry.

1468
01:02:50,403 --> 01:02:52,500
What in the hell was that?

1469
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,273
What you talking about?

1470
01:02:53,373 --> 01:02:55,709
I-I don't understand. You angry with me?

1471
01:02:55,775 --> 01:02:56,943
Am I angry with you?

1472
01:02:57,430 --> 01:02:58,311
You were supposed to protect me up there.

1473
01:02:58,311 --> 01:02:59,946
Supposed to make sure I was safe

1474
01:03:00,460 --> 01:03:01,514
under cross-examination and all that shit.

1475
01:03:01,514 --> 01:03:03,883
That ain't my fault. I didn't know
she was gonna ask you all that.

1476
01:03:03,917 --> 01:03:05,251
It's your job to know
what she's gonna ask me.

1477
01:03:05,285 --> 01:03:06,419
You didn't tell me all this shit.

1478
01:03:06,453 --> 01:03:08,955
You told me about the-the savings
and loan, you told me about the money,

1479
01:03:08,988 --> 01:03:10,623
but you didn't tell me nothing
about him going to jail.

1480
01:03:10,657 --> 01:03:11,891
When I made the deal with him,

1481
01:03:11,991 --> 01:03:13,493
he was not a felon.

1482
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,761
I had every reason to believe that

1483
01:03:14,794 --> 01:03:15,829
- that was a good, solid deal.
- I understand.

1484
01:03:15,862 --> 01:03:18,164
But I can't read your mind.
That's not my fault.

1485
01:03:18,231 --> 01:03:21,670
Of course it is.
Since the first day I hired you,

1486
01:03:21,167 --> 01:03:22,736
you have been trying to turn this case

1487
01:03:22,836 --> 01:03:24,938
into your own, personal one-ring circus.

1488
01:03:25,380 --> 01:03:27,140
I've done everything I can
to try to save your ***.

1489
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,109
I put every dime I have into this deal,

1490
01:03:29,209 --> 01:03:30,710
- and you're still ****ing around.
- I understand. I'm not ****ing around.

1491
01:03:30,744 --> 01:03:31,978
Listen, that ain't fair.
That's not fair, Jerry.

1492
01:03:31,978 --> 01:03:33,313
You don't have anything
on the line here, Willie.

1493
01:03:33,313 --> 01:03:35,415
When this case is over, win, lose or draw,

1494
01:03:35,482 --> 01:03:37,584
you're gonna get in your airplane
and fly away.

1495
01:03:37,650 --> 01:03:39,586
I'm gonna be here.
I got plenty on the line.

1496
01:03:39,652 --> 01:03:40,854
I got my damn life on the line,

1497
01:03:40,854 --> 01:03:42,255
and I don't know how much of that's left.

1498
01:03:42,288 --> 01:03:43,690
I know that, Jerry.

1499
01:03:45,959 --> 01:03:47,360
I'm making a decision.

1500
01:03:47,460 --> 01:03:49,729
A decision for what, Jerry?

1501
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:52,332
I'm gonna replace you as lead attorney.

1502
01:03:56,269 --> 01:03:58,400
For Mike?

1503
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:59,806
That's what you're doing? Huh?

1504
01:03:59,906 --> 01:04:01,274
I'm telling you right now, Jerry,

1505
01:04:01,374 --> 01:04:03,309
that's a huge mistake!

1506
01:04:24,300 --> 01:04:26,433
Shit.

1507
01:04:27,534 --> 01:04:29,350
Hey.

1508
01:04:29,102 --> 01:04:30,537
Hey, baby.

1509
01:04:31,771 --> 01:04:33,873
What you doing?

1510
01:04:33,940 --> 01:04:36,476
Just doing a little bit of reading.

1511
01:04:36,576 --> 01:04:38,311
You-you sound a little down, baby.

1512
01:04:38,411 --> 01:04:40,146
Is everything okay?

1513
01:04:40,246 --> 01:04:42,515
No, I'm, uh, I'm, uh, I'm good.
I'm good. Uh...

1514
01:04:42,615 --> 01:04:43,917
- Okay.
- No, no.

1515
01:04:43,983 --> 01:04:45,785
- Well...
- No, I, uh...

1516
01:04:49,489 --> 01:04:51,570
- I got replaced.
- What?

1517
01:04:51,157 --> 01:04:52,325
I said, I got replaced.

1518
01:04:52,392 --> 01:04:54,361
- They replaced me.
- No.

1519
01:04:54,461 --> 01:04:55,795
What?

1520
01:04:55,862 --> 01:04:58,665
- Yeah, Jerry...
- Replaced you?

1521
01:04:58,732 --> 01:05:01,501
Baby, what does that mean?

1522
01:05:01,568 --> 01:05:04,571
It means that, uh, they want...

1523
01:05:04,671 --> 01:05:07,574
they want somebody else
to be lead counsel and so, uh...

1524
01:05:09,142 --> 01:05:10,877
so they replaced me.

1525
01:05:13,446 --> 01:05:15,115
- Uh...
- Honey, really?

1526
01:05:16,182 --> 01:05:17,584
But wait. I don't understand.

1527
01:05:17,650 --> 01:05:19,619
Why would he do that?

1528
01:05:19,686 --> 01:05:21,821
Why?

1529
01:05:21,921 --> 01:05:23,289
I, uh...

1530
01:05:23,356 --> 01:05:25,825
I screwed up. Screwed up.

1531
01:05:25,892 --> 01:05:27,327
I screwed up.

1532
01:05:28,495 --> 01:05:30,296
I screwed up by, uh...

1533
01:05:31,865 --> 01:05:35,100
I put Jerry on the stand
and I-I didn't have him prepared enough,

1534
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,537
and when they, uh,
did the cross-examination, they, uh...

1535
01:05:39,205 --> 01:05:40,607
they annihilated him.

1536
01:05:40,707 --> 01:05:43,376
They, uh... It was bad.

1537
01:05:45,245 --> 01:05:47,781
It's got me upset. I'm upset.

1538
01:05:47,881 --> 01:05:50,950
The-the reason that I'm upset
is because I...

1539
01:05:51,170 --> 01:05:53,586
Seeing... seeing Jerry so upset,

1540
01:05:53,653 --> 01:05:56,156
it-it's got me upset, so I'm just...

1541
01:05:57,357 --> 01:05:59,225
- I see.
- I'm upset about it.

1542
01:06:00,326 --> 01:06:03,290
You sound like you really care
about this man.

1543
01:06:05,980 --> 01:06:06,700
Jerry?

1544
01:06:06,766 --> 01:06:08,501
- Yeah.
- Yeah.

1545
01:06:08,568 --> 01:06:11,370
Yeah, I care. Jerry's a cool guy.

1546
01:06:46,906 --> 01:06:49,209
Hi. Pardon me.

1547
01:06:49,275 --> 01:06:53,246
Are you, by any chance,
Mrs. Lorraine McGrath?

1548
01:06:53,313 --> 01:06:55,150
Well...

1549
01:06:55,115 --> 01:06:56,483
well, yes, but I...

1550
01:06:56,583 --> 01:06:59,319
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, I...

1551
01:06:59,419 --> 01:07:02,155
It's just I was kind of expecting
a lawyer.

1552
01:07:03,790 --> 01:07:05,191
Yeah, I am a lawyer.

1553
01:07:05,291 --> 01:07:08,361
I'm the guy you spoke with on the phone,
Hal Dockins?

1554
01:07:08,461 --> 01:07:09,496
Oh.

1555
01:07:09,562 --> 01:07:11,431
I'm so sorry. Uh...

1556
01:07:11,531 --> 01:07:13,990
I hope I didn't offend you.

1557
01:07:13,199 --> 01:07:16,369
It just... uh, well, to be honest,
you look very young.

1558
01:07:19,272 --> 01:07:21,107
- Here y'all go.
- Thank you.

1559
01:07:25,211 --> 01:07:29,115
I worked at a Loewen-owned funeral home
for 13 years.

1560
01:07:32,352 --> 01:07:34,120
Just... in all that time,

1561
01:07:34,187 --> 01:07:37,691
I saw a lot, you know,

1562
01:07:37,791 --> 01:07:42,620
about how that company operates.

1563
01:07:42,162 --> 01:07:43,530
Before we go any further,

1564
01:07:43,630 --> 01:07:45,198
I just have to ask you:

1565
01:07:45,265 --> 01:07:47,734
would you be willing to testify?

1566
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:57,877
Mrs. McGrath, hi.

1567
01:07:57,944 --> 01:08:00,280
How you doing this afternoon?

1568
01:08:00,380 --> 01:08:02,816
Um, very well, thank you.

1569
01:08:02,916 --> 01:08:04,584
That's fine. That's just fine.

1570
01:08:05,852 --> 01:08:07,754
Mrs. McGrath, would you mind telling us

1571
01:08:07,821 --> 01:08:09,456
how long you worked as an employee

1572
01:08:09,522 --> 01:08:12,559
for the Durbin and Sons Funeral Home
in Southaven, Mississippi?

1573
01:08:12,659 --> 01:08:14,627
Um, I worked at that funeral home

1574
01:08:14,694 --> 01:08:16,996
for about 13 years before I quit.

1575
01:08:17,630 --> 01:08:18,398
Mm-hmm.

1576
01:08:18,498 --> 01:08:22,502
And did you witness any transfer
of ownership during this time period?

1577
01:08:22,569 --> 01:08:23,870
Um...

1578
01:08:25,605 --> 01:08:29,376
Uh, uh, Durbin and Sons was bought
by the Loewen Group

1579
01:08:29,442 --> 01:08:32,780
sometime around 1990.

1580
01:08:32,145 --> 01:08:34,247
And I was there during that time.

1581
01:08:35,348 --> 01:08:37,784
And did you notice any changes

1582
01:08:37,851 --> 01:08:39,686
in the way the company was run

1583
01:08:39,786 --> 01:08:42,455
after the Loewen Group took over?

1584
01:08:42,522 --> 01:08:45,580
Uh, the most significant was, uh,

1585
01:08:45,158 --> 01:08:46,693
how they implemented this,

1586
01:08:46,793 --> 01:08:50,964
this policy of-of raising prices
on certain items

1587
01:08:51,310 --> 01:08:54,567
in areas where they, uh,
didn't have any, any competition.

1588
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,390
Mostly, this turned out to be, um,

1589
01:08:59,105 --> 01:09:04,144
poor areas,
where there was a lot of-of poverty.

1590
01:09:04,244 --> 01:09:08,140
Could you give us an example
of this type of selective pricing?

1591
01:09:09,820 --> 01:09:13,353
There was this one, uh,
casket in particular I remember.

1592
01:09:13,453 --> 01:09:16,389
The, um, the Wilbert Copper Trubune.

1593
01:09:16,489 --> 01:09:21,861
It, uh, was supposed to retail for $750.

1594
01:09:21,961 --> 01:09:25,980
Uh, which it did in-in some places,

1595
01:09:25,198 --> 01:09:27,330
like, say, Madison.

1596
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:30,770
Uh, but then in other places,
like Corinth,

1597
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:33,540
which, as you know, is-is very poor...

1598
01:09:33,606 --> 01:09:34,808
Yes, of course.

1599
01:09:34,908 --> 01:09:38,411
Over there, they hiked the price up
to something crazy.

1600
01:09:38,478 --> 01:09:41,514
Like three times
what it was supposed to cost.

1601
01:09:42,649 --> 01:09:43,750
Just because they could.

1602
01:09:44,951 --> 01:09:47,487
They knew customers didn't have
anywhere else to go.

1603
01:09:47,587 --> 01:09:49,489
So, basically,

1604
01:09:49,589 --> 01:09:52,492
if I understand you,

1605
01:09:52,559 --> 01:09:57,130
the Loewen Group was involved in
a form of selective price gouging.

1606
01:09:57,197 --> 01:09:58,565
Of what?

1607
01:09:58,665 --> 01:10:01,534
Objection. Your Honor,
how could the witness possibly know

1608
01:10:01,601 --> 01:10:03,837
the intentions of people
she's never even met before?

1609
01:10:03,903 --> 01:10:05,271
Sustained.

1610
01:10:05,372 --> 01:10:06,606
All right, then.

1611
01:10:06,706 --> 01:10:08,274
Let me ask you this.

1612
01:10:08,375 --> 01:10:11,478
In your time at Durbin and Sons,
were you ever left

1613
01:10:11,578 --> 01:10:14,470
with the impression that the Loewen Group

1614
01:10:14,114 --> 01:10:16,750
might have been specifically targeting

1615
01:10:16,816 --> 01:10:18,218
- minority communities...
- Objection.

1616
01:10:18,251 --> 01:10:19,786
- Your Honor.
- Wow! Really?

1617
01:10:19,853 --> 01:10:21,955
- My God.
- Speculation.

1618
01:10:22,220 --> 01:10:25,492
Mr. Allred, what is the basis
for this line of questioning?

1619
01:10:25,558 --> 01:10:27,527
Mr. Allred?

1620
01:10:27,627 --> 01:10:29,529
You know what?

1621
01:10:29,629 --> 01:10:31,310
I apologize.

1622
01:10:31,131 --> 01:10:34,734
No basis. It was just speculation, is all.

1623
01:10:34,834 --> 01:10:37,404
Please, consider it stricken.

1624
01:10:38,772 --> 01:10:41,808
But Your Honor, I do take exception
to Ms. Downes' tone.

1625
01:10:41,908 --> 01:10:43,977
- You've got to be kidding.
- My tone?

1626
01:10:44,770 --> 01:10:45,912
- Noted.
- Her tone.

1627
01:10:45,979 --> 01:10:47,580
- Oh, yeah.
- Thank you, Mrs. McGrath.

1628
01:10:47,614 --> 01:10:49,115
No further questions.

1629
01:10:49,182 --> 01:10:51,418
It was noted, all right.

1630
01:11:07,233 --> 01:11:08,735
Morning, Jerry.

1631
01:11:08,835 --> 01:11:10,704
Willie, how are you?

1632
01:11:13,373 --> 01:11:15,208
I guess you're still mad at me, huh?

1633
01:11:15,275 --> 01:11:18,278
It was a very bad day.
Why don't we just leave it at that?

1634
01:11:21,514 --> 01:11:22,816
All right, here we go.

1635
01:11:22,916 --> 01:11:24,617
Look, I-I messed up in there.

1636
01:11:24,684 --> 01:11:27,354
Okay? I-I did the wrong thing
and I, and I blew it

1637
01:11:27,454 --> 01:11:30,390
and, uh, I just want to say I'm sorry,
and I...

1638
01:11:30,490 --> 01:11:32,192
I apologize.

1639
01:11:32,292 --> 01:11:33,993
Very well.

1640
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,620
Apology accepted.

1641
01:11:39,933 --> 01:11:41,668
Good. We got that over.

1642
01:11:43,670 --> 01:11:46,639
Is this the first time
you ever apologized to somebody like that?

1643
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:48,608
Mm.

1644
01:11:48,708 --> 01:11:51,770
Huh. Be honest with you, my wife, uh,

1645
01:11:51,144 --> 01:11:53,213
- she helped me with the phrasing.
- Mm-hmm.

1646
01:11:55,448 --> 01:11:58,518
Well, she did a very nice job.
I want you to thank her for me.

1647
01:11:58,618 --> 01:12:00,153
All right.

1648
01:12:09,863 --> 01:12:12,499
And you know what I can't stand
about that man?

1649
01:12:12,565 --> 01:12:13,566
What?

1650
01:12:17,170 --> 01:12:19,390
His face.

1651
01:12:23,410 --> 01:12:25,378
I know what you mean. It's, uh...

1652
01:12:25,445 --> 01:12:26,680
You know what I'm talking about.

1653
01:12:26,713 --> 01:12:28,140
In the expression.

1654
01:12:28,114 --> 01:12:29,349
- Mm-hmm.
- No,

1655
01:12:29,449 --> 01:12:32,185
it's generation upon generation
of white entitlement

1656
01:12:32,285 --> 01:12:35,955
and privilege all encapsulated
in one, single,

1657
01:12:36,220 --> 01:12:37,557
simpering grin.

1658
01:12:38,892 --> 01:12:40,994
But him with that woman on stand today,

1659
01:12:41,610 --> 01:12:43,129
posturing and pretending like

1660
01:12:43,196 --> 01:12:45,999
he's some sort of
savior for our people... Ooh!

1661
01:12:46,660 --> 01:12:48,168
Unfortunately,

1662
01:12:48,234 --> 01:12:50,336
the jury did seem to eat it up.

1663
01:12:52,539 --> 01:12:55,575
Yeah. That is a problem, isn't it?

1664
01:13:02,916 --> 01:13:05,185
Didn't I see his name

1665
01:13:05,285 --> 01:13:07,687
on the witness list at some point?

1666
01:13:07,787 --> 01:13:10,724
Supposedly, Gary was planning on

1667
01:13:10,824 --> 01:13:12,692
calling him a...

1668
01:13:15,729 --> 01:13:20,100
Calling him as a material witness to
the agreement between O'Keefe and Loewen.

1669
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:24,671
Which means I will have him on cross.

1670
01:13:24,738 --> 01:13:27,874
Which means
you're gonna have him on cross.

1671
01:13:46,393 --> 01:13:49,129
Hey, have any of you guys
read about this deal

1672
01:13:49,195 --> 01:13:51,531
that the Loewen Group made
with something called

1673
01:13:51,631 --> 01:13:53,600
the "National Baptist Convention"?

1674
01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:55,702
The National Baptist Convention?

1675
01:13:55,769 --> 01:13:57,737
What... What is that?

1676
01:13:57,837 --> 01:14:00,373
It's like, um, you know, like...

1677
01:14:00,440 --> 01:14:01,941
an arm of the Black church.

1678
01:14:02,420 --> 01:14:03,777
But a really big one.

1679
01:14:03,877 --> 01:14:05,979
Probably the biggest, actually.

1680
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:07,647
Sorry, did you... did you just say

1681
01:14:07,747 --> 01:14:10,417
that the Loewen Group has a deal
with the Black church?

1682
01:14:10,483 --> 01:14:14,154
The, uh, National Baptist Convention.
But yeah.

1683
01:14:14,254 --> 01:14:17,157
Yeah, how? How does that make any sense?

1684
01:14:17,223 --> 01:14:18,792
I don't know.

1685
01:14:18,858 --> 01:14:20,727
But it's all right here.

1686
01:14:22,495 --> 01:14:24,898
Apparently, they created
some sort of partnership

1687
01:14:24,998 --> 01:14:26,700
about a year ago.

1688
01:14:26,766 --> 01:14:28,601
Hard to say why, though.

1689
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,808
Okay, can you get me
some more information about this?

1690
01:14:35,809 --> 01:14:37,110
Yes, sir.

1691
01:14:37,210 --> 01:14:39,879
Are the plaintiffs ready
to call their next witness?

1692
01:14:39,946 --> 01:14:43,160
Yes.
Actually, Your Honor, we'd like to call

1693
01:14:43,116 --> 01:14:46,619
Mr. O'Keefe's longtime attorney,
Michael Allred, to the stand.

1694
01:14:46,686 --> 01:14:48,210
Your Honor.

1695
01:14:48,121 --> 01:14:50,457
Seriously?

1696
01:14:50,523 --> 01:14:52,659
Where are you going with this,
Mr. Douglas?

1697
01:14:52,726 --> 01:14:55,528
Your Honor, we-we recognize
how this might seem a little unusual.

1698
01:14:55,628 --> 01:14:59,320
However, Mr. Allred was with Mr. O'Keefe,

1699
01:14:59,990 --> 01:15:02,680
as his attorney, the entire time
he was dealing with Loewen.

1700
01:15:02,168 --> 01:15:04,504
And, uh, we feel like his-his testimony
will be essential.

1701
01:15:09,576 --> 01:15:11,811
Michael Allred.

1702
01:15:11,911 --> 01:15:14,470
Oh, hell, we friends. I'm-a call you Mike.

1703
01:15:14,114 --> 01:15:16,149
You bet, Reggie.

1704
01:15:16,249 --> 01:15:18,184
So, Mike,

1705
01:15:18,284 --> 01:15:21,287
in your 30 years of practicing law,

1706
01:15:21,354 --> 01:15:24,240
specializing in contract law,

1707
01:15:24,124 --> 01:15:27,360
did it ever occur to you,
when you were drawing up the contract

1708
01:15:27,460 --> 01:15:30,563
between Mr. O'Keefe and Mr. Loewen,
that there could be

1709
01:15:30,663 --> 01:15:34,234
any kind of misunderstanding as to what
that document actually was?

1710
01:15:34,334 --> 01:15:35,702
No, sir.

1711
01:15:35,769 --> 01:15:38,371
It was extremely clear to everyone
exactly what it was.

1712
01:15:38,438 --> 01:15:39,906
It was a contract.

1713
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,108
Contract. It's a contract.

1714
01:15:42,208 --> 01:15:44,711
Now, was there anything that suggested,
in the language,

1715
01:15:44,778 --> 01:15:47,414
that the, uh,
agreed-upon time for the deal to close

1716
01:15:47,480 --> 01:15:49,916
would be... open-ended?

1717
01:15:49,983 --> 01:15:52,852
How's it feel to be sitting in that chair?

1718
01:15:54,654 --> 01:15:57,570
- It's a little uncomfortable, yeah.
- Mm.

1719
01:15:58,124 --> 01:16:01,895
Imagine, we haven't even
gotten started yet.

1720
01:16:04,898 --> 01:16:08,735
You've been Mr. O'Keefe's attorney
quite some time now, yes?

1721
01:16:08,835 --> 01:16:10,336
I have.

1722
01:16:10,403 --> 01:16:12,380
For 30 years... nearly 30 years.

1723
01:16:12,105 --> 01:16:13,239
Mm.

1724
01:16:13,306 --> 01:16:15,475
And would you say you
and Mr. O'Keefe are good friends?

1725
01:16:16,443 --> 01:16:18,144
- Sure. He's one of my closest friends.
- Hmm.

1726
01:16:18,144 --> 01:16:20,280
Yeah, we share a lot in common.

1727
01:16:20,380 --> 01:16:22,820
I admire him.

1728
01:16:27,987 --> 01:16:30,230
Mr. Allred, would you say
this is a case about race?

1729
01:16:30,230 --> 01:16:32,125
- Objection. Objection.
- Objection.

1730
01:16:32,192 --> 01:16:33,326
Overruled.

1731
01:16:34,394 --> 01:16:36,162
Would I say this is a case about race?

1732
01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:39,766
No, I would not say
this is a case about race.

1733
01:16:41,334 --> 01:16:42,936
Really?

1734
01:16:43,937 --> 01:16:48,775
Okay, well, the subject of race does seem
to keep coming up, doesn't it?

1735
01:16:48,875 --> 01:16:50,810
Almost exclusively from your side.

1736
01:16:50,910 --> 01:16:54,481
Uh, for instance,
this whole heroic narrative

1737
01:16:54,581 --> 01:16:58,818
about, uh, Mr. O'Keefe supposedly
having some sort of civil rights record

1738
01:16:58,918 --> 01:17:01,955
and denying the KKK a permit...

1739
01:17:02,220 --> 01:17:05,580
Uh, explain to me what relevance that has
to a case about contracts.

1740
01:17:05,158 --> 01:17:07,627
Uh, about Jerry's character.

1741
01:17:07,694 --> 01:17:09,129
It's more about his integrity

1742
01:17:09,195 --> 01:17:10,630
- and his decency.
- 'Cause he does

1743
01:17:10,663 --> 01:17:11,731
such great things for Black people, huh?

1744
01:17:11,731 --> 01:17:13,666
- Object-Objection.
- Objection, Your Honor.

1745
01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:14,934
- Stand up.
- Objection. I'm not standing up.

1746
01:17:14,934 --> 01:17:16,360
- I said "objection."
- I will not allow

1747
01:17:16,690 --> 01:17:17,337
this line of questioning, Ms. Downes.

1748
01:17:17,370 --> 01:17:18,438
- Sustained.
- I'm-I'm objecting.

1749
01:17:18,438 --> 01:17:21,441
Another thing that has been
made quite clear in this case is

1750
01:17:21,541 --> 01:17:24,444
how important family, family legacy,

1751
01:17:24,544 --> 01:17:26,279
is to Mr. O'Keefe.

1752
01:17:26,379 --> 01:17:28,810
Is that something you share?

1753
01:17:28,148 --> 01:17:29,849
Family important to you as well?

1754
01:17:29,949 --> 01:17:32,619
Well, it's not just important to me,
it's everything to me.

1755
01:17:32,686 --> 01:17:35,388
It's everything. Well, that's something
you and Mr. O'Keefe have in common.

1756
01:17:35,422 --> 01:17:36,523
- Objection.
- Objection, Your Honor.

1757
01:17:36,523 --> 01:17:38,124
Because you're best friends, yeah?

1758
01:17:38,158 --> 01:17:40,126
Overruled.
The witness can answer the question,

1759
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:41,461
but let's try and get to the point.

1760
01:17:41,494 --> 01:17:43,697
Absolutely, it's something
that we share in common.

1761
01:17:43,797 --> 01:17:45,932
I-Is this really what you want
to be asking me, Ms. Downes?

1762
01:17:45,932 --> 01:17:47,567
It is.

1763
01:17:47,667 --> 01:17:48,768
Actually.

1764
01:17:48,868 --> 01:17:50,103
But thank you.

1765
01:17:51,204 --> 01:17:52,572
You love your family.

1766
01:17:52,672 --> 01:17:53,707
Yeah?

1767
01:17:53,773 --> 01:17:56,409
Your extended family,
your immediate family...

1768
01:17:56,476 --> 01:17:58,144
You love all of your family, yes?

1769
01:17:58,244 --> 01:17:59,446
Every member of my family.

1770
01:17:59,546 --> 01:18:00,547
Yeah?

1771
01:18:01,581 --> 01:18:06,860
So, there-there's no one
that you secretly wish you could disown?

1772
01:18:06,152 --> 01:18:07,420
- Someone that you're maybe
- Objection, Your Honor.

1773
01:18:07,454 --> 01:18:08,855
- A little ashamed...
- It doesn't matter what he feels.

1774
01:18:08,855 --> 01:18:10,900
- Disown?
- She doesn't know what...

1775
01:18:10,123 --> 01:18:12,580
'Cause I know I have some family members
I would love to disown.

1776
01:18:12,580 --> 01:18:13,593
- But you don't.
- I'm-a take care of this.

1777
01:18:13,626 --> 01:18:14,627
- No.
- No? You don't.

1778
01:18:14,694 --> 01:18:15,829
No.

1779
01:18:15,895 --> 01:18:17,831
Say, for instance, your grandfather.

1780
01:18:17,897 --> 01:18:19,866
- My grandfather.
- Yes.

1781
01:18:19,933 --> 01:18:21,601
Your grandfather.

1782
01:18:27,807 --> 01:18:31,770
He was my grandfather.
What does that have to do with this case?

1783
01:18:35,648 --> 01:18:37,283
Remind me:

1784
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:40,186
how long was your grandfather
a member of the Ku Klux Klan?

1785
01:18:44,724 --> 01:18:46,920
- Objection. Objection.
- Objection. Objection.

1786
01:18:46,126 --> 01:18:47,227
Objection.

1787
01:18:47,227 --> 01:18:48,728
- We gonna stop this right now.
- Your Honor, I am gonna continue

1788
01:18:48,728 --> 01:18:49,929
- to say "objection."
- This is wrong.

1789
01:18:49,963 --> 01:18:50,997
Objection.

1790
01:18:51,310 --> 01:18:52,499
Objection. Objection.

1791
01:18:52,565 --> 01:18:54,634
Did you bond with your grandfather

1792
01:18:54,667 --> 01:18:56,403
about the KKK?

1793
01:18:56,503 --> 01:18:57,537
- Did you share some bond?
- What is the question?

1794
01:18:57,570 --> 01:18:59,439
- What is the question?
- Did you share some love

1795
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,141
about the burning cross?

1796
01:19:01,241 --> 01:19:04,444
You go to any, uh, KKK rallies
with your grandfather,

1797
01:19:04,544 --> 01:19:05,812
- Mr. Allred?
- Now, you know

1798
01:19:05,812 --> 01:19:07,914
this is out of line,
it has nothing to do with this case.

1799
01:19:07,947 --> 01:19:09,820
Objection.

1800
01:19:09,149 --> 01:19:10,283
- Overruled, Mr. Gary.
- How can you overrule that?

1801
01:19:10,316 --> 01:19:11,418
Answer the question, Mr. Allred.

1802
01:19:11,451 --> 01:19:13,386
With all due respect, Your Honor,
this has nothing to do with the case.

1803
01:19:13,420 --> 01:19:15,255
- Answer the question.
- What's the question?

1804
01:19:15,321 --> 01:19:18,725
Are you asking me was I aware that my
grandfather was once a member of the KKK?

1805
01:19:18,825 --> 01:19:21,270
Mike, you don't have
to answer that question.

1806
01:19:21,127 --> 01:19:22,395
Objection.

1807
01:19:22,495 --> 01:19:24,464
I heard you the first time, Mr. Gary.

1808
01:19:24,531 --> 01:19:25,999
Yes, I was asking that question.

1809
01:19:26,660 --> 01:19:27,333
I am no longer asking that question.

1810
01:19:27,367 --> 01:19:28,935
No further questions.

1811
01:19:29,350 --> 01:19:31,538
- What his grandfather has done...
- You know, lawyer to lawyer,

1812
01:19:31,571 --> 01:19:33,306
that was completely out of line,
Ms. Downes.

1813
01:19:33,373 --> 01:19:34,941
Oh, the hypocrisy.

1814
01:19:35,410 --> 01:19:36,443
The hypocrisy.

1815
01:19:36,543 --> 01:19:39,279
It's quite outrageous, Your Honor.

1816
01:19:39,379 --> 01:19:42,282
Room full of brothers right now.

1817
01:19:42,349 --> 01:19:43,783
- Denounce your granddaddy.
- Yeah.

1818
01:19:43,817 --> 01:19:46,186
Say it, Mike. Say it.

1819
01:19:46,286 --> 01:19:48,154
Go on. It's easy.

1820
01:19:48,254 --> 01:19:49,723
- Come on, Mike. Denounce him.
- Yeah.

1821
01:19:49,756 --> 01:19:51,570
You know what?

1822
01:19:51,157 --> 01:19:52,359
I'm sorry.

1823
01:19:52,459 --> 01:19:53,727
All right?

1824
01:19:53,827 --> 01:19:55,128
I'm sorry.

1825
01:19:55,195 --> 01:19:56,563
Her behavior was unconscionable.

1826
01:19:56,663 --> 01:19:58,264
You cannot hold someone responsible

1827
01:19:58,365 --> 01:20:00,367
for the mistakes of their ancestors.

1828
01:20:00,433 --> 01:20:04,700
Mike, your granddaddy is a racist,

1829
01:20:04,170 --> 01:20:06,639
land-stealing, slave-raping

1830
01:20:06,740 --> 01:20:09,342
piece of shit. -Oh, come on now,
Reggie Douglas, that's not right!

1831
01:20:09,376 --> 01:20:10,844
That's not right.
He's still my granddaddy.

1832
01:20:10,877 --> 01:20:11,911
- I wouldn't say that about...
- Don't you bring...

1833
01:20:11,945 --> 01:20:13,313
- Hey, hey, hey, hey!
- Don't you bring up on me!

1834
01:20:13,313 --> 01:20:14,814
- Hey, hey, hey, hey.
- Stop all this.

1835
01:20:14,814 --> 01:20:16,649
Stop it right now. Stop it.

1836
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,587
Reg, you stop. All of y'all.

1837
01:20:20,653 --> 01:20:23,656
Mike, we not fixin' to crucify you...

1838
01:20:23,723 --> 01:20:25,625
about what happened in the past.

1839
01:20:25,692 --> 01:20:27,961
He can't fix his grandfather
or anything else.

1840
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:29,896
But you know what we can fix?

1841
01:20:29,996 --> 01:20:31,197
This case.

1842
01:20:31,264 --> 01:20:32,599
Hold on.

1843
01:20:32,699 --> 01:20:33,767
Hold on, man.

1844
01:20:33,867 --> 01:20:36,360
So you-you fixin' to give him a pass?

1845
01:20:36,102 --> 01:20:37,470
- That was this is?
- I'm-a give him a pass

1846
01:20:37,504 --> 01:20:39,105
because you didn't know enough
about his past

1847
01:20:39,105 --> 01:20:40,707
and that's why you got your *** kicked.

1848
01:20:42,709 --> 01:20:44,344
- **** this case, man.
- I think we can win.

1849
01:20:44,377 --> 01:20:46,780
No, man, I'm going back to Florida. Nah.

1850
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,248
Doing exactly what we should've did
in the beginning. -Come on, man.

1851
01:20:48,281 --> 01:20:50,350
I got a question for you, Reggie:

1852
01:20:50,450 --> 01:20:52,452
What's taking you so long
to get out the door?

1853
01:20:52,519 --> 01:20:53,787
Wow.

1854
01:20:53,853 --> 01:20:55,288
- Willie...
- You don't have to tell me twice.

1855
01:20:55,321 --> 01:20:56,823
Have fun with these white folks.

1856
01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:59,250
- Reg.
- Hey, Reggie.

1857
01:20:59,125 --> 01:21:00,293
Reg!

1858
01:21:01,961 --> 01:21:03,797
You want to go, too?

1859
01:21:03,863 --> 01:21:05,165
You know what?

1860
01:21:05,231 --> 01:21:07,267
I'm out.

1861
01:21:07,367 --> 01:21:08,501
I'm tired of this shit.

1862
01:21:08,568 --> 01:21:09,769
I'm out, too.

1863
01:21:09,869 --> 01:21:11,538
I miss home, anyway.

1864
01:21:11,604 --> 01:21:14,400
Willie, I'm gettin' too old
for this shit, man.

1865
01:21:15,442 --> 01:21:17,243
Mike, I'm sorry.

1866
01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:19,612
I'm truly, truly sorry.

1867
01:21:19,713 --> 01:21:20,780
Me, too.

1868
01:21:24,184 --> 01:21:25,785
Can't have this.

1869
01:21:25,852 --> 01:21:27,287
Have what?

1870
01:21:27,354 --> 01:21:28,755
We got a case.

1871
01:21:29,756 --> 01:21:31,240
To win.

1872
01:21:38,164 --> 01:21:40,166
I should probably...

1873
01:21:42,100 --> 01:21:44,137
- I should probably recuse myself.
- Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

1874
01:21:44,170 --> 01:21:45,638
- Mike, no, you can't do that.
- Yeah, I probably should.

1875
01:21:45,672 --> 01:21:47,107
- No, Mike, you can't do that.
- I should, shouldn't I?

1876
01:21:47,107 --> 01:21:48,475
Now, we got a long way to go,
but we can win this case.

1877
01:21:48,475 --> 01:21:50,810
If I even dare to step foot
in that courtroom again,

1878
01:21:50,910 --> 01:21:52,445
the jury's never gonna see me,

1879
01:21:52,545 --> 01:21:54,147
they're just gonna see
a guy with a sheet on his head.

1880
01:21:54,147 --> 01:21:55,348
Listen, listen. We dug a hole.

1881
01:21:55,415 --> 01:21:57,584
We dug a hole, but we can dig out of it.

1882
01:21:57,650 --> 01:22:00,653
I'm sorry, Willie, I can't do it,
'cause we both know if I stay on,

1883
01:22:00,754 --> 01:22:02,756
my presence is just gonna
hurt the case more,

1884
01:22:02,822 --> 01:22:05,225
and I can't do that to you
and I sure can't do that to Jerry.

1885
01:22:05,325 --> 01:22:07,600
Mm-hmm.

1886
01:22:12,532 --> 01:22:13,733
All right.

1887
01:22:14,734 --> 01:22:16,503
We'll have to win it without you.

1888
01:22:16,569 --> 01:22:17,871
You're gonna.

1889
01:22:19,205 --> 01:22:20,974
Halbert. Be good.

1890
01:22:41,361 --> 01:22:44,197
Well, there you are.
I've been looking for you.

1891
01:22:50,937 --> 01:22:53,773
This trial's not going
the way I wanted it to.

1892
01:22:55,208 --> 01:22:57,410
I feel like I made a bad mistake.

1893
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:01,681
And I ought to be cutting my losses.

1894
01:23:03,283 --> 01:23:06,319
I thought justice was blind.

1895
01:23:06,419 --> 01:23:10,990
That I could hold Ray Loewen to his word
in a court of law.

1896
01:23:12,659 --> 01:23:16,463
Make him pay.
But hell, I was the one turned out blind.

1897
01:23:16,529 --> 01:23:19,699
I am sorry for putting you
through all this.

1898
01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:25,171
You don't need to say sorry, Jeremiah.

1899
01:23:26,573 --> 01:23:28,274
Not to me, anyway.

1900
01:23:30,143 --> 01:23:32,379
I know who you are.

1901
01:23:35,682 --> 01:23:38,518
- Have you told Willie yet?
- No.

1902
01:23:38,618 --> 01:23:41,688
I think he goes home to Florida
on the weekends.

1903
01:23:43,230 --> 01:23:45,625
Feel like I ought to tell him in person.

1904
01:23:45,692 --> 01:23:47,961
I think that would be
the right thing to do.

1905
01:24:00,106 --> 01:24:01,941
Hey, sorry. Um...

1906
01:24:02,420 --> 01:24:04,611
- Wait, what's-what's in this one again?
- Um...

1907
01:24:05,612 --> 01:24:09,683
It's that info you requested on Loewen's
deal with the National Baptist Convention.

1908
01:24:09,783 --> 01:24:13,119
Actually, would you mind leaving
that one here with me?

1909
01:24:15,355 --> 01:24:16,890
Really think it's over, boss?

1910
01:24:19,492 --> 01:24:21,728
I don't think there's any way
we can win this case,

1911
01:24:21,828 --> 01:24:25,365
and my guess is, Jerry's starting
to see it that way as well, so...

1912
01:24:58,665 --> 01:25:00,900
You-you must be Mrs. Gary.

1913
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,902
- Yes.
- I hope you'll forgive me

1914
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:04,838
for just showing up like this, but, uh,

1915
01:25:04,904 --> 01:25:06,606
I'm Jeremiah O'Keefe.

1916
01:25:07,741 --> 01:25:08,875
Oh!

1917
01:25:08,942 --> 01:25:11,111
- You mean Jerry.
- Yes, ma'am.

1918
01:25:11,211 --> 01:25:14,748
The Jerry that my husband keeps
going on about!

1919
01:25:14,814 --> 01:25:16,750
Uh, is Willie home, by the way?

1920
01:25:16,816 --> 01:25:18,818
Oh, no, I'm afraid he's not.

1921
01:25:18,918 --> 01:25:22,155
He's over at his mother's in Indiantown,
where he usually goes on Saturdays.

1922
01:25:22,255 --> 01:25:23,390
Okay.

1923
01:25:23,490 --> 01:25:25,325
Hey, I tell you what.
You give me a minute

1924
01:25:25,392 --> 01:25:27,193
to grab my car keys.

1925
01:25:27,293 --> 01:25:29,562
- I'll drive you there myself.
- Oh, no, please, no.

1926
01:25:29,662 --> 01:25:31,431
I-I don't want to impose.

1927
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,536
Jerry, absolutely not.

1928
01:25:36,603 --> 01:25:38,271
You family now.

1929
01:25:38,371 --> 01:25:39,706
Come on, now.

1930
01:25:45,812 --> 01:25:48,748
Just entering Indiantown now.

1931
01:25:48,815 --> 01:25:50,417
This where Willie's from?

1932
01:25:50,483 --> 01:25:52,485
Where we're both from.

1933
01:26:01,361 --> 01:26:03,663
Willie and I have had our differences.

1934
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,601
I want you to know
I think he's a remarkable man.

1935
01:26:14,740 --> 01:26:16,420
- Upside-down on a ledge.
- Right. Exactly.

1936
01:26:17,477 --> 01:26:19,279
No.

1937
01:26:19,379 --> 01:26:20,914
I'm a mess.

1938
01:26:20,980 --> 01:26:23,950
- Know what I'm saying?
- Everybody's going to Dallas.

1939
01:26:24,170 --> 01:26:26,190
Ah...

1940
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,522
- Oh, my.
- Oh, my goodness.

1941
01:26:29,622 --> 01:26:30,690
Hmm.

1942
01:26:31,825 --> 01:26:35,328
Willie ever tell you
he's one of 11 siblings?

1943
01:26:37,630 --> 01:26:39,650
Mm-hmm.

1944
01:26:39,165 --> 01:26:40,533
- Surely.
- Number six out of 11.

1945
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,838
Well, believe it or not,
I have 13 children of my own.

1946
01:26:44,904 --> 01:26:46,373
- Oh, my God.
- Do you now?

1947
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,541
I do.

1948
01:26:48,608 --> 01:26:49,976
I say.

1949
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:51,945
Ooh.

1950
01:26:52,450 --> 01:26:53,813
Y'all have 26 kids between you.

1951
01:26:53,913 --> 01:26:55,682
Well, then you know,

1952
01:26:55,782 --> 01:26:57,784
there's always that one baby

1953
01:26:57,851 --> 01:27:00,453
that, no matter what you do,

1954
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,889
is always clinging to you for dear life.

1955
01:27:02,989 --> 01:27:05,658
Wrapped around the bottom of your leg,

1956
01:27:05,725 --> 01:27:07,327
and can't let go.

1957
01:27:07,394 --> 01:27:08,995
Oh, man.

1958
01:27:10,563 --> 01:27:12,365
That's my Willie.

1959
01:27:12,432 --> 01:27:16,690
And look at where all that longing

1960
01:27:16,169 --> 01:27:18,338
and desperation for love

1961
01:27:18,405 --> 01:27:20,573
has gotten him now.

1962
01:27:30,483 --> 01:27:33,860
My grandfather was a sharecropper.

1963
01:27:33,153 --> 01:27:34,487
Uh-huh.

1964
01:27:34,587 --> 01:27:36,156
My paternal grandfather.

1965
01:27:36,256 --> 01:27:38,224
- Mm-hmm.
- My namesake.

1966
01:27:40,326 --> 01:27:42,896
I was eight years old,

1967
01:27:42,996 --> 01:27:45,432
out there in them sugarcane fields,
you know?

1968
01:27:46,900 --> 01:27:48,435
Working.

1969
01:27:48,535 --> 01:27:49,836
Me.

1970
01:27:52,405 --> 01:27:54,374
4:30 in the morning, she'd wake me up,
man, get me out here.

1971
01:27:54,407 --> 01:27:55,575
I wasn't no taller than this grass, man.

1972
01:27:55,608 --> 01:27:57,844
That's how it all got started,
out there in the sugarcane.

1973
01:27:57,877 --> 01:28:00,480
Reason I came all the way
out here, Willie, is 'cause I...

1974
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:02,415
Look, listen, listen, listen, listen.

1975
01:28:02,482 --> 01:28:04,117
'Fore you even get there. I know.

1976
01:28:05,852 --> 01:28:07,454
You want to drop the case.

1977
01:28:08,655 --> 01:28:10,523
I know it's got to be a disappointment.

1978
01:28:10,623 --> 01:28:12,625
But if there was any way that I thought...

1979
01:28:12,692 --> 01:28:14,194
Look, look, listen, listen, Jerry.

1980
01:28:14,294 --> 01:28:16,463
You-you... you don't understand, doc.

1981
01:28:16,529 --> 01:28:18,531
Look...

1982
01:28:18,598 --> 01:28:20,834
Now, I know you got to do
what you got to do.

1983
01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:22,902
But at the same time,

1984
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:24,604
you just got to know that I know,

1985
01:28:24,704 --> 01:28:28,740
down deep in my heart, that me and you
together, we could've did it.

1986
01:28:28,141 --> 01:28:30,643
We could've took that company down, man.

1987
01:28:31,878 --> 01:28:34,881
I just hope you know
how much I've enjoyed getting to know you.

1988
01:28:34,948 --> 01:28:36,850
This one didn't roll our way.

1989
01:28:38,985 --> 01:28:42,489
But getting to know you...

1990
01:28:42,589 --> 01:28:44,624
was a... highlight.

1991
01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:47,293
What-What's that noise?

1992
01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:51,131
Listen...

1993
01:28:51,197 --> 01:28:52,699
Man...

1994
01:28:52,766 --> 01:28:54,367
Hold on a second.

1995
01:28:55,502 --> 01:28:56,503
Hey.

1996
01:28:56,569 --> 01:28:57,704
Hello? Hey.

1997
01:28:57,737 --> 01:28:58,838
Hal?

1998
01:28:58,905 --> 01:29:01,408
- Hello? Can you hear...
- Hal, I can barely hear you.

1999
01:29:01,474 --> 01:29:03,276
Hey, are-are you with Jerry right now?

2000
01:29:03,376 --> 01:29:04,544
Yeah. Yeah.

2001
01:29:04,611 --> 01:29:05,679
- Good. Yes. Okay.
- Yes, I am.

2002
01:29:05,712 --> 01:29:06,846
Do not let him drop the case.

2003
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,782
Hello?

2004
01:29:08,848 --> 01:29:10,160
Hal, can you hear me?

2005
01:29:10,116 --> 01:29:13,920
- It's a bad connection.
- I said, do not let him drop the case.

2006
01:29:13,987 --> 01:29:15,588
Just-just trust me, okay?

2007
01:29:15,655 --> 01:29:17,724
I... I may have found something.

2008
01:29:17,824 --> 01:29:20,260
Okay. Good, I'll call you.

2009
01:29:33,206 --> 01:29:35,875
Thank you all for taking the time

2010
01:29:35,942 --> 01:29:38,440
to speak with us, Mr. Soames.

2011
01:29:38,111 --> 01:29:39,713
Everyone.

2012
01:29:39,779 --> 01:29:41,648
What can you tell us about the deal

2013
01:29:41,748 --> 01:29:45,185
that the Loewen Group made with
the National Baptist Convention?

2014
01:29:45,285 --> 01:29:47,821
Well, nothing good ever come out of it.

2015
01:29:47,921 --> 01:29:50,523
At least not for Black folks.
That's the truth.

2016
01:29:50,623 --> 01:29:52,659
'Bout a year back,

2017
01:29:52,726 --> 01:29:56,563
the Loewen Group connected with
some of the top leadership

2018
01:29:56,663 --> 01:29:58,640
of the NBC.

2019
01:29:58,164 --> 01:30:00,567
- National Baptist Convention?
- Yes, sir.

2020
01:30:00,667 --> 01:30:05,238
One of the largest single branches
of the Black church.

2021
01:30:05,338 --> 01:30:08,441
They represent over 33,000 churches

2022
01:30:08,541 --> 01:30:10,744
and more than eight million members.

2023
01:30:10,810 --> 01:30:15,115
Anyway, they made a proposal to the NBC,

2024
01:30:15,181 --> 01:30:18,618
told 'em that
if they could convince the Black church

2025
01:30:18,685 --> 01:30:23,990
to endorse the Loewen Group
as their death care provider of choice,

2026
01:30:24,570 --> 01:30:27,160
then they'd turn some of its members
into salesmen.

2027
01:30:27,227 --> 01:30:29,796
Like, uh, teach 'em how to sell everything

2028
01:30:29,863 --> 01:30:32,932
from graves to crypts to headstones

2029
01:30:33,330 --> 01:30:36,836
and, uh, burial insurance
straight to their own people.

2030
01:30:36,903 --> 01:30:38,671
And for every product they sold,

2031
01:30:38,738 --> 01:30:41,241
- they could keep the commission.
- Hmm.

2032
01:30:41,307 --> 01:30:43,943
Wait a minute now, so the Loewen Group

2033
01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:47,113
was taking poor Black people,
having them sell their funeral products

2034
01:30:47,213 --> 01:30:49,849
to other poor Black people
for a commission.

2035
01:30:49,949 --> 01:30:53,860
Course, they said it was all win-win.

2036
01:30:53,153 --> 01:30:55,622
Help people out of poverty,

2037
01:30:55,689 --> 01:30:57,857
boost economic empowerment.

2038
01:30:57,957 --> 01:31:00,226
But it never did much for anybody.

2039
01:31:00,326 --> 01:31:02,195
Except the Loewen Group, of course.

2040
01:31:02,295 --> 01:31:03,363
Yeah.

2041
01:31:03,463 --> 01:31:04,898
They was just trying to find another way

2042
01:31:04,898 --> 01:31:06,566
to exploit Black folks

2043
01:31:06,666 --> 01:31:08,935
in their most vulnerable moments.

2044
01:31:31,858 --> 01:31:34,270
You know what this right here is?

2045
01:31:35,528 --> 01:31:37,163
Not sure.

2046
01:31:37,230 --> 01:31:39,899
What it is, is a cemetery.

2047
01:31:39,999 --> 01:31:42,702
Now, you can't tell from looking at it

2048
01:31:42,769 --> 01:31:45,839
on account of the fact that
there's no headstones.

2049
01:31:45,905 --> 01:31:47,741
Why's that?

2050
01:31:47,807 --> 01:31:51,440
That's 'cause
it's a different kind of cemetery.

2051
01:31:51,111 --> 01:31:54,481
It's an old slave burial ground.

2052
01:31:54,581 --> 01:31:57,751
Everybody knows slaves didn't have
no money of their own

2053
01:31:57,817 --> 01:32:01,210
to ever bury their loved ones
with a headstone.

2054
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,524
Though you can't really tell
by looking at it...

2055
01:32:05,792 --> 01:32:08,628
our entire history,

2056
01:32:08,695 --> 01:32:12,650
history of Black people in the South,

2057
01:32:12,165 --> 01:32:14,701
history of Black people in America...

2058
01:32:14,768 --> 01:32:17,904
of our slave ancestors, it's,

2059
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,207
it's all buried everywhere out here.

2060
01:32:21,274 --> 01:32:23,376
Deep underground.

2061
01:32:23,443 --> 01:32:27,147
Pretty much everywhere you look,
that's where our history is.

2062
01:32:27,247 --> 01:32:30,450
In these vast, empty fields.

2063
01:32:31,518 --> 01:32:36,256
In some places,
they put up all these statues.

2064
01:32:36,322 --> 01:32:39,392
You know,
like all these Confederate monuments

2065
01:32:39,492 --> 01:32:41,494
and statues you see everywhere.

2066
01:32:43,296 --> 01:32:48,334
All the lot of 'em is put up right on top
of a slave burial field.

2067
01:32:48,401 --> 01:32:49,436
Mm-hmm.

2068
01:32:50,904 --> 01:32:54,107
It's like taking one history

2069
01:32:54,207 --> 01:32:56,576
and putting it right on top of another.

2070
01:32:57,811 --> 01:33:00,814
It's like taking one man's legacy,

2071
01:33:00,914 --> 01:33:03,316
putting it on top of another.

2072
01:33:03,416 --> 01:33:08,621
Till, one day, it gets pushed down so deep

2073
01:33:08,688 --> 01:33:11,524
buried so deep...

2074
01:33:13,293 --> 01:33:15,662
can't no one ever find it no more.

2075
01:33:26,139 --> 01:33:27,774
Some of the members came to me

2076
01:33:27,874 --> 01:33:29,576
and told me that

2077
01:33:29,642 --> 01:33:31,711
the actual cost of burying my father

2078
01:33:31,778 --> 01:33:35,448
was gonna be much more than
what they said when I bought the policy.

2079
01:33:35,515 --> 01:33:40,153
When I told them
that I didn't have the extra money,

2080
01:33:40,253 --> 01:33:44,491
and I didn't know how long
it would take me to get it,

2081
01:33:44,557 --> 01:33:49,290
they happily said
they'd keep the body on ice.

2082
01:33:49,129 --> 01:33:50,964
Rather than give me any comfort,

2083
01:33:51,310 --> 01:33:52,732
the deacon assigned to be counselor

2084
01:33:52,832 --> 01:33:56,770
used it as an opportunity to shove
a bunch of brochures in my face

2085
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:59,506
and try and recruit me
as a Loewen sales rep.

2086
01:33:59,572 --> 01:34:01,641
Then, suddenly,
this man from the NBC shows up,

2087
01:34:01,741 --> 01:34:04,744
asking if I've made
funeral arrangements and...

2088
01:34:04,811 --> 01:34:07,480
if I'd be interested
in a Loewen burial package.

2089
01:34:08,848 --> 01:34:12,686
He said I'd get a much better deal
if I paid upfront.

2090
01:34:12,786 --> 01:34:14,654
Before my son died.

2091
01:34:14,754 --> 01:34:17,490
Once my husband finally passed,

2092
01:34:17,557 --> 01:34:20,560
that's when they said
that the package that I bought

2093
01:34:20,660 --> 01:34:24,698
didn't cover the cost of embalming
or moving the body.

2094
01:34:24,764 --> 01:34:26,399
The coffin I bought for my mom

2095
01:34:26,499 --> 01:34:28,568
was the least expensive one.

2096
01:34:29,836 --> 01:34:32,105
Come to find out

2097
01:34:32,205 --> 01:34:35,750
the one they sold me was
three times more than average.

2098
01:34:37,243 --> 01:34:40,547
Your own preacher come to you,
telling you you need something,

2099
01:34:40,613 --> 01:34:43,116
and you religious, you believe it.

2100
01:34:45,919 --> 01:34:47,487
Now, I understand that you are

2101
01:34:47,587 --> 01:34:49,889
one of the analysts for the Loewen Group.

2102
01:34:49,989 --> 01:34:51,991
You deal with
some of the high-level deals.

2103
01:34:52,580 --> 01:34:53,693
Is that correct?

2104
01:34:53,793 --> 01:34:55,261
- Yes, that's correct.
- Mm-hmm.

2105
01:34:55,295 --> 01:34:57,664
Also that you were, uh,

2106
01:34:57,731 --> 01:34:59,366
one of the architects of this latest deal

2107
01:34:59,432 --> 01:35:01,334
that you had between the Loewen Group

2108
01:35:01,401 --> 01:35:03,236
and the National Baptist Convention.

2109
01:35:03,336 --> 01:35:05,238
- Is that right?
- Yes, I was.

2110
01:35:05,338 --> 01:35:07,140
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You Baptist?

2111
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:08,942
- No, not Baptist.
- No.

2112
01:35:09,420 --> 01:35:10,310
- Christian, though, right?
- Yes.

2113
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:11,778
Yeah, yeah. We all Christian, right?

2114
01:35:11,878 --> 01:35:13,246
We all believe in God. Amen?

2115
01:35:13,313 --> 01:35:14,614
Amen.

2116
01:35:16,316 --> 01:35:18,184
Here's the question, though.

2117
01:35:18,284 --> 01:35:22,155
How much money did the Loewen Group

2118
01:35:22,255 --> 01:35:26,260
project to make from this deal

2119
01:35:26,126 --> 01:35:28,695
of them and the NBC?

2120
01:35:28,795 --> 01:35:31,264
And remember...

2121
01:35:31,364 --> 01:35:33,660
you're under oath.

2122
01:35:34,768 --> 01:35:39,539
Uh, our original long-term projections
for that deal were somewhere around

2123
01:35:39,606 --> 01:35:42,142
1... maybe $1.2 billion.

2124
01:35:42,242 --> 01:35:44,644
$1.2 million?

2125
01:35:44,744 --> 01:35:46,312
- $1.2 billion.
- $1.2...

2126
01:35:46,413 --> 01:35:48,148
$1.2 billion?

2127
01:35:49,816 --> 01:35:51,484
$1.2 billion, that's-that's good money.

2128
01:35:51,584 --> 01:35:53,687
That's good money
for the Loewen Group, correct?

2129
01:35:53,787 --> 01:35:55,210
- Yes.
- That's good money.

2130
01:35:55,121 --> 01:35:57,857
That's good money. $1.2 billion.

2131
01:35:57,957 --> 01:36:01,161
I thought you said "million,"
but you said "billion dollars."

2132
01:36:01,227 --> 01:36:03,229
Uh...

2133
01:36:03,329 --> 01:36:05,165
How much did you pay 'em?

2134
01:36:06,232 --> 01:36:07,934
I'm sorry?

2135
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:10,537
I said, how much did you pay 'em?

2136
01:36:10,603 --> 01:36:13,373
How much did the Loewen Group

2137
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:15,642
pay the National Baptist Convention

2138
01:36:15,742 --> 01:36:18,311
as compensation as a result of the deal?

2139
01:36:21,848 --> 01:36:26,186
I believe we made
about a $200,000 donation.

2140
01:36:30,357 --> 01:36:31,891
The jury heard it.

2141
01:36:31,991 --> 01:36:34,194
We didn't have a defense for it.

2142
01:36:34,294 --> 01:36:36,863
Oh, what a ****ing mess.

2143
01:36:38,998 --> 01:36:41,534
I'm gonna have to call Loewen.

2144
01:37:10,797 --> 01:37:12,499
Dealing with people honestly

2145
01:37:12,565 --> 01:37:15,535
is something that's always been
important to us.

2146
01:37:15,602 --> 01:37:19,500
Do we seek to be tough competitors

2147
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:20,573
in an increasingly volatile market?

2148
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:21,875
Yes.

2149
01:37:21,941 --> 01:37:23,777
But we don't cheat people.

2150
01:37:25,780 --> 01:37:27,800
- That's not how we operate.
- Mm.

2151
01:37:27,147 --> 01:37:28,748
No further questions, Your Honor.

2152
01:37:28,815 --> 01:37:31,685
- Your witness, Mr. Gary.
- All right.

2153
01:37:34,354 --> 01:37:35,522
Mr. Loewen, how you doing?

2154
01:37:35,622 --> 01:37:37,824
- I'm very well, thank you, Mr. Gary.
- You look good in that suit, doc.

2155
01:37:37,857 --> 01:37:39,159
That's that Armani, I can tell that

2156
01:37:39,192 --> 01:37:40,193
a mile away.

2157
01:37:40,293 --> 01:37:43,630
Listen, I just want to thank you
for coming down here.

2158
01:37:43,163 --> 01:37:45,310
I know you're really busy,

2159
01:37:45,980 --> 01:37:47,000
and we appreciate it,
but it's good to have the big man here.

2160
01:37:47,330 --> 01:37:51,404
Because, um, you know, we want to shine
some light on some of these dark places.

2161
01:37:51,504 --> 01:37:53,173
And, uh,
I'll just start right off with it.

2162
01:37:53,239 --> 01:37:55,942
I want to know, from your perspective...

2163
01:37:57,444 --> 01:38:00,480
what was the deal that you had
between you and Mr. O'Keefe?

2164
01:38:00,580 --> 01:38:05,418
I believe it was roughly a year ago

2165
01:38:05,485 --> 01:38:07,954
when we received an enquiry

2166
01:38:08,210 --> 01:38:11,358
from a representative of Mr. O'Keefe's.

2167
01:38:11,458 --> 01:38:13,860
In fact,

2168
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:18,231
I'm pretty sure it was his lawyer,
Mr. Allred, who contacted us.

2169
01:38:18,331 --> 01:38:20,667
My understanding is

2170
01:38:20,734 --> 01:38:23,169
they were very anxious to sell.

2171
01:38:23,236 --> 01:38:26,272
So we started looking into the deal.

2172
01:38:26,373 --> 01:38:27,974
Sussing it out.

2173
01:38:28,740 --> 01:38:31,911
Trying to determine if it was something

2174
01:38:31,978 --> 01:38:34,881
that would be a good fit for our business.

2175
01:38:34,948 --> 01:38:39,152
Sometime after that,
I invited Mr. O'Keefe and his associates

2176
01:38:39,252 --> 01:38:40,854
up to Vancouver.

2177
01:38:40,954 --> 01:38:44,157
If I recall, they came for dinner,

2178
01:38:44,224 --> 01:38:47,270
at my boat, and we discussed things.

2179
01:38:48,128 --> 01:38:51,765
After that, uh, hard to say.

2180
01:38:51,865 --> 01:38:55,702
Normally, at that stage, I turn things
over to my acquisitions team.

2181
01:38:57,270 --> 01:38:59,105
Well, that's pleasant.

2182
01:38:59,205 --> 01:39:00,940
I mean, that really is.

2183
01:39:01,410 --> 01:39:02,375
And...

2184
01:39:02,442 --> 01:39:03,710
lucky for you,

2185
01:39:03,777 --> 01:39:07,247
uh, Mr. Loewen, I don't have
a lot of follow-up questions.

2186
01:39:07,313 --> 01:39:10,817
I just have, uh, one thing
I want to ask you. Uh...

2187
01:39:12,419 --> 01:39:13,787
What kind of boat?

2188
01:39:13,853 --> 01:39:15,789
Come again?

2189
01:39:15,855 --> 01:39:17,657
Oh, I said: "What kind of boat?"

2190
01:39:18,658 --> 01:39:21,227
You-you said earlier that you guys
were all on the boat together,

2191
01:39:21,327 --> 01:39:22,796
and y'all was eating
and having a good time,

2192
01:39:22,829 --> 01:39:24,497
having the best fish,

2193
01:39:24,564 --> 01:39:26,433
and I just wanted to know,
what kind of boat is it?

2194
01:39:26,433 --> 01:39:27,867
I don't understand.

2195
01:39:27,934 --> 01:39:30,503
Are you asking
about the particular make, or...

2196
01:39:32,105 --> 01:39:34,740
Matter of fact, I was asking...

2197
01:39:34,140 --> 01:39:38,411
Can I read from this?
It says, "Nine sunning decks."

2198
01:39:38,478 --> 01:39:40,747
Mm. "Six elegant staterooms."

2199
01:39:40,814 --> 01:39:42,148
- Uh...
- Objection, Your Honor.

2200
01:39:42,248 --> 01:39:43,283
- What is the relevance...
- "Five luxury guest cabins."

2201
01:39:43,316 --> 01:39:44,551
- of the witnesses' boat?
- Overruled.

2202
01:39:44,584 --> 01:39:45,618
Your Honor,
can I just read what the boat is?

2203
01:39:45,652 --> 01:39:47,870
- Overruled, Ms. Downes.
- It's a nice boat.

2204
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:48,855
- Overruled.
- I just want to recognize

2205
01:39:48,955 --> 01:39:51,624
and let everybody see
that it's a very nice boat.

2206
01:39:51,691 --> 01:39:54,461
You got, uh, helicopter, helicopter pad.

2207
01:39:54,527 --> 01:39:55,628
You can land a helicopter

2208
01:39:55,695 --> 01:39:56,896
- on that thing, huh?
- Mm-hmm.

2209
01:39:56,996 --> 01:39:58,980
That's something else right there.

2210
01:39:58,131 --> 01:39:59,366
That's high grass.

2211
01:39:59,432 --> 01:40:02,535
How much did, uh,
how much did this boat of yours cost?

2212
01:40:04,838 --> 01:40:06,439
I really don't know.

2213
01:40:06,539 --> 01:40:08,208
I think we're...

2214
01:40:08,274 --> 01:40:09,743
You're not understanding the question.

2215
01:40:09,776 --> 01:40:12,479
I'm... Let me frame it again
so you can understand it better.

2216
01:40:12,579 --> 01:40:14,314
I'm asking you

2217
01:40:14,414 --> 01:40:16,449
how much did you pay

2218
01:40:16,516 --> 01:40:18,585
for your boat?

2219
01:40:19,652 --> 01:40:20,954
I don't know.

2220
01:40:21,210 --> 01:40:22,880
- Objection. -RAY: I don't know.
- Can I ask...

2221
01:40:22,122 --> 01:40:23,957
- Asked and answered.
- You know what? Forget about that.

2222
01:40:23,990 --> 01:40:25,580
Let me ask you this:

2223
01:40:25,158 --> 01:40:27,360
How much you pay for your plane? Huh?

2224
01:40:27,460 --> 01:40:29,462
Since you can remember some things
and you forget other things,

2225
01:40:29,496 --> 01:40:30,730
how much you pay for your plane?

2226
01:40:30,730 --> 01:40:33,166
How much did you pay
for your plane, Mr. Gary?

2227
01:40:33,233 --> 01:40:34,434
I saw it on the runway.

2228
01:40:34,534 --> 01:40:35,568
Oh. You know what?

2229
01:40:35,668 --> 01:40:37,303
We could talk about how much
I paid for my plane,

2230
01:40:37,337 --> 01:40:38,872
'cause I know exactly how much it was,

2231
01:40:38,938 --> 01:40:40,440
but we not talking
about my plane right now.

2232
01:40:40,440 --> 01:40:42,420
We talking about your boat.

2233
01:40:42,108 --> 01:40:44,244
So, let me ask one more time,

2234
01:40:44,310 --> 01:40:46,346
so everybody can hear
and understand what I'm saying

2235
01:40:46,413 --> 01:40:48,481
to Mr. Loewen, the billionaire

2236
01:40:48,581 --> 01:40:50,917
who doesn't know the price of his own boat

2237
01:40:50,984 --> 01:40:53,860
that he had dinner on with his colleagues.

2238
01:40:53,153 --> 01:40:56,523
I want to ask you again:
how much did you pay

2239
01:40:56,623 --> 01:40:57,991
for your boat?

2240
01:40:59,392 --> 01:41:01,610
I don't know.

2241
01:41:03,630 --> 01:41:04,831
I think he's not hearing what I'm saying.

2242
01:41:04,898 --> 01:41:06,366
I'm gonna ask you one more time,
Mr. Loewen.

2243
01:41:06,399 --> 01:41:08,100
How much did your boat cost?

2244
01:41:10,170 --> 01:41:11,237
What is your point?

2245
01:41:11,337 --> 01:41:12,505
What's my point?

2246
01:41:12,572 --> 01:41:13,606
What is my point?

2247
01:41:13,707 --> 01:41:17,544
While you were sitting there sunning
on that $25 million boat,

2248
01:41:17,610 --> 01:41:21,214
eating your $30 a head lobster,

2249
01:41:21,281 --> 01:41:23,483
did it ever bother you
that it was all being paid for

2250
01:41:23,583 --> 01:41:25,752
by all the poor people
and destitute people

2251
01:41:25,819 --> 01:41:29,189
that your company was
systematically taking advantage of

2252
01:41:29,289 --> 01:41:31,240
and profiting from every single day?

2253
01:41:31,124 --> 01:41:32,826
- Objection! Counsel is testifying.
- Huh? Not only that,

2254
01:41:32,859 --> 01:41:35,662
they were taking advantage of 'em
at their worst time,

2255
01:41:35,729 --> 01:41:38,264
when they're downtrodden,
when they lost somebody,

2256
01:41:38,365 --> 01:41:39,933
when they're mourning somebody.

2257
01:41:40,330 --> 01:41:41,701
And now, who has to pay for it?

2258
01:41:41,768 --> 01:41:44,437
The small businessman
like Jeremiah O'Keefe.

2259
01:41:44,537 --> 01:41:46,339
The small businessman in this country,

2260
01:41:46,406 --> 01:41:48,608
who worked so hard to pay for everything

2261
01:41:48,708 --> 01:41:50,243
and stay on top and keep afloat

2262
01:41:50,310 --> 01:41:53,460
while these greedy corporations

2263
01:41:53,113 --> 01:41:54,981
do everything they can and...

2264
01:41:55,810 --> 01:41:56,282
Objection, Your Honor!

2265
01:41:56,349 --> 01:41:58,485
I think I've had quite enough of this.

2266
01:41:58,585 --> 01:41:59,586
Sit your *** down!

2267
01:41:59,652 --> 01:42:01,287
You sit your *** down

2268
01:42:01,354 --> 01:42:03,556
until I finish what I'm saying,
because I'm not done.

2269
01:42:04,624 --> 01:42:06,493
I'm not done with my question
by a long shot. -Mr. Gary!

2270
01:42:06,526 --> 01:42:10,397
Language of that nature
will not be tolerated in my court.

2271
01:42:12,198 --> 01:42:15,101
Mr. Loewen, you may not leave
the witness stand

2272
01:42:15,201 --> 01:42:17,337
unless you're excused by me.

2273
01:42:17,404 --> 01:42:19,205
Do you understand?

2274
01:42:31,284 --> 01:42:32,852
You may continue, Mr. Gary,

2275
01:42:32,952 --> 01:42:35,880
but I warn you to tread lightly.

2276
01:42:58,478 --> 01:43:00,547
I just want to know one thing.

2277
01:43:03,149 --> 01:43:05,518
Did it ever bother you at all?

2278
01:43:08,488 --> 01:43:09,989
No.

2279
01:43:17,864 --> 01:43:20,500
That's all I need.

2280
01:43:25,205 --> 01:43:27,140
You're dismissed.

2281
01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:38,485
Mother****er!

2282
01:43:38,585 --> 01:43:40,320
Mother****er!

2283
01:43:40,420 --> 01:43:43,560
What was that? What was that?!

2284
01:43:43,156 --> 01:43:45,158
I was skewered out there!

2285
01:43:53,700 --> 01:43:56,690
Well, Sister Souljah, what you got for me?

2286
01:43:56,169 --> 01:43:58,738
Well, came to let you know
we've come to a decision.

2287
01:43:58,838 --> 01:44:01,207
Mm. We have? And what have we decided?

2288
01:44:01,274 --> 01:44:03,476
Well, in light of recent events,

2289
01:44:03,576 --> 01:44:06,790
it does feel that it would be best
for all parties involved...

2290
01:44:06,146 --> 01:44:08,348
- Oh.
- To reopen a settlement discussion.

2291
01:44:09,916 --> 01:44:13,353
In other words, we are...

2292
01:44:13,453 --> 01:44:15,622
we are prepared to make your client

2293
01:44:15,689 --> 01:44:18,224
a very generous offer.

2294
01:44:18,324 --> 01:44:22,128
I know that's hard for you to, uh,
get out, but how generous are we talking?

2295
01:44:22,195 --> 01:44:24,564
I mean, work with me, Willie.
It's not gonna be $100 million.

2296
01:44:24,564 --> 01:44:25,965
Work with you? What are you talking about?

2297
01:44:25,999 --> 01:44:27,434
I mean, needless to say,

2298
01:44:27,534 --> 01:44:29,936
it's gonna be in the range
in which neither Jerry... -Uh-huh.

2299
01:44:29,936 --> 01:44:31,438
Nor his kids
nor his grandkids would ever

2300
01:44:31,438 --> 01:44:32,806
- have to worry about anything again.
- Okay.

2301
01:44:32,839 --> 01:44:35,410
- That sound good. That sound good.
- Yes.

2302
01:44:35,108 --> 01:44:37,430
I'll tell you what.

2303
01:44:37,110 --> 01:44:39,212
Why don't we meet in your room
in a couple hours?

2304
01:44:40,380 --> 01:44:43,350
And make sure you get
your best negotiator. You know why?

2305
01:44:45,251 --> 01:44:47,120
Your *** gonna need it.

2306
01:44:49,122 --> 01:44:52,459
Generally, damages in tort are awarded

2307
01:44:52,525 --> 01:44:54,661
simply to restore the plaintiff
back to the position

2308
01:44:54,728 --> 01:44:56,663
he or she was in before tort occurred.

2309
01:44:56,730 --> 01:45:01,334
However, given how protracted
this whole matter has become,

2310
01:45:01,401 --> 01:45:03,603
we believe that it is
in all our best interests

2311
01:45:03,703 --> 01:45:05,605
just to resolve this once and for all.

2312
01:45:05,705 --> 01:45:08,740
We'd like to make you what we consider

2313
01:45:08,141 --> 01:45:09,943
a very generous offer.

2314
01:45:10,430 --> 01:45:12,780
Obviously,
should you decide not to take it,

2315
01:45:12,145 --> 01:45:14,247
we can all go back into court tomorrow.

2316
01:45:14,314 --> 01:45:16,149
You can roll the dice with the jury.

2317
01:45:16,249 --> 01:45:19,319
But, frankly, uh,
the chances that you will win

2318
01:45:19,419 --> 01:45:21,755
or come anywhere close to this number,

2319
01:45:21,821 --> 01:45:23,990
is a risk I doubt you want to take.

2320
01:45:34,868 --> 01:45:36,369
Okay.

2321
01:45:36,436 --> 01:45:37,904
Here's our offer.

2322
01:45:58,458 --> 01:46:00,360
The answer's no.

2323
01:46:01,394 --> 01:46:03,530
Are you serious?

2324
01:46:03,630 --> 01:46:04,831
He's serious?

2325
01:46:04,898 --> 01:46:06,399
I said the answer's no.

2326
01:46:06,499 --> 01:46:09,769
You mean to tell me you are
really going to turn that down?

2327
01:46:09,869 --> 01:46:12,906
You sure you don't maybe want
a little more time to think it over?

2328
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:15,642
- I've thought it over enough.
- Have you?

2329
01:46:15,742 --> 01:46:19,450
I think we both know that's more money
than you'll ever see in your lifetime.

2330
01:46:19,112 --> 01:46:21,548
We gonna get down to business
or y'all gonna keep wasting our time?

2331
01:46:21,581 --> 01:46:23,750
The man said no.

2332
01:46:23,817 --> 01:46:24,818
Hmm?

2333
01:46:26,753 --> 01:46:28,521
Mm. Okay.

2334
01:46:30,790 --> 01:46:32,625
- You sure?
- Yes.

2335
01:46:44,437 --> 01:46:46,606
- Best and final.
- Mm-hmm.

2336
01:47:20,273 --> 01:47:22,275
Answer's still no.

2337
01:47:23,643 --> 01:47:26,246
Well, this is just ****ing unbelievable.

2338
01:47:26,312 --> 01:47:28,348
What the hell's your problem, O'Keefe?

2339
01:47:28,448 --> 01:47:31,170
You can't honestly tell me
that is not enough.

2340
01:47:31,117 --> 01:47:32,585
It's more than enough for me.

2341
01:47:32,652 --> 01:47:34,120
It's just not enough for you.

2342
01:47:34,187 --> 01:47:35,689
For me?

2343
01:47:35,789 --> 01:47:37,490
As in enough to put you out of business.

2344
01:47:37,557 --> 01:47:38,992
Ah.

2345
01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:40,627
Come on.

2346
01:47:40,694 --> 01:47:42,462
Let me tell you something, pal.

2347
01:47:42,529 --> 01:47:45,865
The amount of money it would take
to put me out of business...

2348
01:47:45,932 --> 01:47:48,702
The real, actual amount...

2349
01:47:48,768 --> 01:47:50,870
Is a number you can't even calculate.

2350
01:47:50,937 --> 01:47:52,605
Take the money, Jerry.

2351
01:47:52,706 --> 01:47:54,307
You're 80 years old.

2352
01:47:54,407 --> 01:47:56,643
- Seventy-five.
- Can you please talk to your client?

2353
01:47:56,743 --> 01:47:57,977
Talk to him about what?

2354
01:47:58,780 --> 01:47:59,713
- About the fact he just turned down...
- Oh, he said no.

2355
01:47:59,746 --> 01:48:01,381
Last I checked, "no" means "no," right?

2356
01:48:01,448 --> 01:48:03,183
What does it feel like

2357
01:48:03,283 --> 01:48:06,920
to be some small-time, nobody
funeral director

2358
01:48:06,986 --> 01:48:08,922
on the verge of bankruptcy

2359
01:48:08,988 --> 01:48:12,525
who just passed on
his one and only chance

2360
01:48:12,625 --> 01:48:15,495
at $75 million?

2361
01:48:15,562 --> 01:48:17,530
- What's it feel like?
- Mm.

2362
01:48:25,572 --> 01:48:27,807
♪ It feels good ♪

2363
01:48:27,907 --> 01:48:29,909
♪ Feels good ♪

2364
01:48:31,911 --> 01:48:33,747
♪ Feels good ♪

2365
01:48:33,813 --> 01:48:35,415
Yeah.

2366
01:48:35,482 --> 01:48:36,950
♪ Feels good ♪

2367
01:48:37,170 --> 01:48:38,618
♪ It feels good ♪

2368
01:48:38,685 --> 01:48:40,860
- Yeah. That's it.
- ♪ Yeah ♪

2369
01:48:40,153 --> 01:48:41,454
He said no.
We see you all in court tomorrow.

2370
01:48:41,488 --> 01:48:42,789
Okay, you can leave now. Thank you.

2371
01:48:42,822 --> 01:48:44,224
I mean, it's... it's a circus.

2372
01:48:44,290 --> 01:48:46,526
- ♪ Oh, it feels good ♪
- JEREMIAH: ♪ Feels good ♪

2373
01:48:46,626 --> 01:48:49,295
♪ Feels good, feels good ♪

2374
01:48:49,362 --> 01:48:51,297
- ♪ Feels good ♪
- WILLIE: ♪ It feels good, hey ♪

2375
01:48:53,330 --> 01:48:55,201
♪ It sure feels good to me. ♪

2376
01:48:58,605 --> 01:48:59,773
Surprise.

2377
01:48:59,873 --> 01:49:01,975
Guess who it is?

2378
01:49:02,750 --> 01:49:05,450
- What you doing?
- I thought you could use some company.

2379
01:49:06,146 --> 01:49:08,281
- Oh, baby.
- Missed you so much.

2380
01:49:08,348 --> 01:49:09,916
Closing arguments tomorrow.

2381
01:49:09,983 --> 01:49:11,985
You think I don't know that?

2382
01:49:12,850 --> 01:49:15,121
Done a lot of big cases, but...

2383
01:49:16,656 --> 01:49:18,725
this particular one is...

2384
01:49:21,895 --> 01:49:25,650
Lot of people's lives in my hand. And...

2385
01:49:26,766 --> 01:49:29,202
I think I kind of feel that
a little bit, you know.

2386
01:49:31,638 --> 01:49:33,473
Especially...

2387
01:49:33,573 --> 01:49:35,275
especially when it comes to Jerry.

2388
01:49:39,913 --> 01:49:41,414
So...

2389
01:49:43,483 --> 01:49:45,850
I don't want to lose.

2390
01:49:45,151 --> 01:49:47,153
I mean, I don't...

2391
01:49:47,220 --> 01:49:48,988
I-I think...

2392
01:49:50,230 --> 01:49:52,359
what if I don't win

2393
01:49:52,459 --> 01:49:54,127
and...

2394
01:49:55,528 --> 01:49:57,597
I let all these people down?

2395
01:50:00,166 --> 01:50:02,769
Well...

2396
01:50:02,869 --> 01:50:04,804
you're not going to let them down.

2397
01:50:05,805 --> 01:50:07,907
So you don't need to worry.

2398
01:50:13,790 --> 01:50:16,449
You know that for a fact, Miss Gloria?

2399
01:50:16,516 --> 01:50:18,451
I don't know it for a fact.

2400
01:50:18,518 --> 01:50:20,420
- I know you for a fact.
- Mm.

2401
01:50:26,493 --> 01:50:28,495
I know the man I married.

2402
01:50:29,996 --> 01:50:31,364
Yeah, baby.

2403
01:50:33,767 --> 01:50:36,102
Oh, but...

2404
01:50:37,270 --> 01:50:39,239
One suggestion, though, baby?

2405
01:50:39,305 --> 01:50:41,441
Yeah? What's that?

2406
01:50:43,710 --> 01:50:45,979
When you're up there in court tomorrow,

2407
01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:47,814
- doing your thing...
- Doing my thing.

2408
01:50:50,684 --> 01:50:53,860
Just...

2409
01:50:53,153 --> 01:50:56,389
try not to refer to yourself
in the third person.

2410
01:50:58,858 --> 01:51:00,393
Okay.

2411
01:51:02,462 --> 01:51:05,365
What, um...

2412
01:51:05,432 --> 01:51:06,666
What you, what you talking about, Gloria?

2413
01:51:06,700 --> 01:51:08,668
I don't, I don't do that.

2414
01:51:08,735 --> 01:51:10,537
- Yeah, you do.
- Go on.

2415
01:51:10,603 --> 01:51:12,105
- Nah, I...
- Just a little.

2416
01:51:12,205 --> 01:51:15,241
I don't think I do that.

2417
01:51:16,242 --> 01:51:17,377
I don't.

2418
01:51:17,444 --> 01:51:20,347
"Girl, get ready.
Willie Gary coming upstairs now!"

2419
01:51:20,447 --> 01:51:23,183
Trust me.

2420
01:51:23,283 --> 01:51:24,751
You do.

2421
01:51:24,818 --> 01:51:29,522
I... I guess Willie Gary does do that
every once in a while.

2422
01:52:01,654 --> 01:52:03,890
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...

2423
01:52:06,292 --> 01:52:08,695
I just have one small question to ask.

2424
01:52:10,663 --> 01:52:14,734
Do y'all mind if I keep things simple?
Hmm?

2425
01:52:15,435 --> 01:52:17,437
Just plain and ordinary talk.

2426
01:52:43,196 --> 01:52:45,650
Has the jury reached a verdict?

2427
01:52:49,369 --> 01:52:51,905
After careful consideration,

2428
01:52:51,971 --> 01:52:56,242
we the jury in case number 9661,

2429
01:52:56,309 --> 01:52:59,112
of the Hinds County District Court,

2430
01:52:59,212 --> 01:53:03,583
Mr. Jeremiah J. O'Keefe
v. the Loewen Group, LLC,

2431
01:53:03,650 --> 01:53:05,985
have decided to side in favor of

2432
01:53:06,860 --> 01:53:09,155
the plaintiff, Jeremiah O'Keefe.

2433
01:53:12,625 --> 01:53:16,620
We have further decided
to award a verdict of

2434
01:53:16,162 --> 01:53:19,532
- $100 million in compensatory damages...
- All right! Oh!

2435
01:53:19,599 --> 01:53:23,903
To be paid to Mr. O'Keefe
by defendant Loewen Group, LLC.

2436
01:53:25,805 --> 01:53:27,307
And...

2437
01:53:30,443 --> 01:53:34,614
a verdict of $400 million
in punitive damages

2438
01:53:34,681 --> 01:53:38,518
to be paid to Mr. O'Keefe
by defendant Loewen Group.

2439
01:53:38,618 --> 01:53:39,753
You deserve it.

2440
01:53:39,819 --> 01:53:40,820
Come on!

2441
01:54:38,144 --> 01:54:40,313
$500 million, Jerry.

2442
01:54:42,315 --> 01:54:44,517
I know it, Willie.

2443
01:54:46,853 --> 01:54:48,621
I know it.

2444
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:21,988
Hey, Willie.

2445
01:55:23,356 --> 01:55:24,891
Hey, Mame.

2446
01:55:24,991 --> 01:55:27,270
What you do, you, uh...

2447
01:55:27,127 --> 01:55:28,561
come down here for your last licking?

2448
01:55:28,561 --> 01:55:30,163
Oh, my last licking?

2449
01:55:30,230 --> 01:55:31,664
No.

2450
01:55:31,731 --> 01:55:33,433
I actually just wanted
to congratulate you.

2451
01:55:33,433 --> 01:55:34,534
Really?

2452
01:55:34,601 --> 01:55:36,360
- Yeah.
- Congratulate me?

2453
01:55:36,102 --> 01:55:37,270
Mm-hmm.

2454
01:55:37,370 --> 01:55:39,239
Now come on. You mean that?

2455
01:55:39,305 --> 01:55:41,307
Listen, I hate losing.

2456
01:55:41,408 --> 01:55:44,244
But it was a well-earned victory.
I can be honest about that.

2457
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:47,180
Well, I venture, but that's $500 million.

2458
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:51,840
Now, somewhere inside,
I know you think that's way too much.

2459
01:55:52,819 --> 01:55:55,689
Yeah, maybe there's a part of me
that thinks it's not enough.

2460
01:55:55,789 --> 01:55:58,158
Well, I can take more.

2461
01:55:58,224 --> 01:56:00,326
Good luck to you, Willie Gary.

2462
01:56:00,393 --> 01:56:02,280
Ah. Keep in touch.

2463
01:56:02,950 --> 01:56:03,563
Hope to see you on the trail.

2464
01:56:03,663 --> 01:56:04,831
Well...

2465
01:56:04,898 --> 01:56:06,166
Hey, Mame?

2466
01:56:07,767 --> 01:56:09,690
I gotta tell you something.

2467
01:56:09,169 --> 01:56:12,472
You one of the toughest lawyers
I've ever had to go against.

2468
01:56:14,574 --> 01:56:16,609
You, too.

2469
01:56:18,278 --> 01:56:20,313
No doubt Johnnie would be impressed.

2470
01:56:20,413 --> 01:56:22,182
♪ Sometimes it feels cold ♪

2471
01:56:22,182 --> 01:56:24,751
- ♪ And you feel all alone ♪
- Johnnie.

2472
01:56:26,486 --> 01:56:28,121
♪ But hold on ♪

2473
01:56:28,188 --> 01:56:30,957
♪ Better days are coming ♪

2474
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:36,960
♪ It can be rough ♪

2475
01:56:36,196 --> 01:56:41,340
♪ In this world ♪

2476
01:56:41,101 --> 01:56:43,103
♪ I know ♪

2477
01:56:43,203 --> 01:56:44,604
♪ It ain't easy ♪

2478
01:56:44,704 --> 01:56:47,307
♪ But hang on in there ♪

2479
01:56:47,407 --> 01:56:52,645
♪ I know better days are coming ♪

2480
01:56:55,181 --> 01:56:58,451
♪ You seen good, you seen bad ♪

2481
01:56:58,518 --> 01:57:02,889
♪ You've been hurt beyond sin ♪

2482
01:57:02,989 --> 01:57:06,626
♪ But just remember ♪

2483
01:57:06,693 --> 01:57:09,195
♪ That better days ♪

2484
01:57:09,262 --> 01:57:11,131
- There's always the one.
- ♪ That better days ♪

2485
01:57:11,164 --> 01:57:13,233
- There's always one. Just...
- ♪ Are coming ♪

2486
01:57:17,370 --> 01:57:21,908
♪ Friends... ♪

2487
01:57:24,277 --> 01:57:26,780
♪ Will leave you ♪

2488
01:57:26,846 --> 01:57:29,149
♪ All by yourself ♪

2489
01:57:29,249 --> 01:57:31,518
♪ But don't cry ♪

2490
01:57:31,618 --> 01:57:33,286
♪ 'Cause better days ♪

2491
01:57:33,353 --> 01:57:36,623
♪ Are coming ♪

2492
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:39,492
♪ Oh ♪

2493
01:57:39,559 --> 01:57:43,229
♪ Better days ♪

2494
01:57:43,329 --> 01:57:45,165
♪ Better days ♪

2495
01:57:45,231 --> 01:57:48,268
♪ Better days ♪

2496
01:57:48,368 --> 01:57:50,336
♪ I'll see, yeah ♪

2497
01:57:50,403 --> 01:57:53,807
♪ Better days ♪

2498
01:57:53,907 --> 01:57:57,243
♪ Are coming. ♪

2499
01:58:09,723 --> 01:58:12,559
- ♪ When the night ♪
- ♪ When the night ♪

2500
01:58:12,659 --> 01:58:16,596
♪ Has come ♪

2501
01:58:16,696 --> 01:58:17,764
♪ Mm ♪

2502
01:58:17,864 --> 01:58:21,735
♪ And the land is so dark ♪

2503
01:58:21,835 --> 01:58:24,337
♪ And the moon ♪

2504
01:58:24,404 --> 01:58:28,375
♪ Is the only light we'll see,
my brother ♪

2505
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:32,645
♪ No, I won't ♪

2506
01:58:32,746 --> 01:58:36,182
♪ Be afraid ♪

2507
01:58:36,282 --> 01:58:40,186
- ♪ No, I won't be afraid ♪
- ♪ Mm ♪

2508
01:58:40,286 --> 01:58:43,289
- ♪ Just as long ♪
- ♪ Just as long as you ♪

2509
01:58:43,356 --> 01:58:44,991
♪ As you ♪

2510
01:58:45,580 --> 01:58:47,193
- ♪ Stand by me ♪
- ♪ Stand by me ♪

2511
01:58:49,696 --> 01:58:54,601
♪ Oh, stand by me ♪

2512
01:58:54,701 --> 01:58:59,739
- ♪ Oh, stand by me ♪
- ♪ Oh, stand by me ♪

2513
01:58:59,806 --> 01:59:02,642
♪ Hmm, mm ♪

2514
01:59:02,742 --> 01:59:04,644
♪ Ah ♪

2515
01:59:04,744 --> 01:59:07,347
♪ Stand by me ♪

2516
01:59:07,447 --> 01:59:08,815
♪ Stand by me ♪

2517
01:59:08,915 --> 01:59:12,652
♪ Oh, if the sky ♪

2518
01:59:12,752 --> 01:59:16,723
♪ That we look upon ♪

2519
01:59:16,823 --> 01:59:20,493
♪ Should crumble and fall ♪

2520
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,196
♪ Or the mountain ♪

2521
01:59:23,263 --> 01:59:28,668
♪ Should crumble down to the sea,
oh, yeah ♪

2522
01:59:29,536 --> 01:59:31,237
♪ I won't cry ♪

2523
01:59:31,304 --> 01:59:34,874
♪ I won't cry, I won't cry, no ♪

2524
01:59:34,941 --> 01:59:39,450
- ♪ Oh, no, I won't cry ♪
- ♪ I won't, I won't shed a tear ♪

2525
01:59:40,113 --> 01:59:42,820
♪ Just as long ♪

2526
01:59:42,148 --> 01:59:44,184
♪ As you ♪

2527
01:59:44,284 --> 01:59:46,519
♪ Stand by me ♪

2528
01:59:48,540 --> 01:59:49,723
♪ Don't you worry ♪

2529
01:59:49,823 --> 01:59:54,160
♪ Oh, stand by me ♪

2530
01:59:54,227 --> 01:59:56,730
♪ Oh, stand ♪

2531
01:59:56,830 --> 01:59:58,832
♪ By me... ♪

2532
02:00:00,834 --> 02:00:02,802
- Hey, what's happening there, doc?
- Hey, what's up?

2533
02:00:02,836 --> 02:00:04,204
- Willie Gary. I can't believe it.
- Yeah.

2534
02:00:04,237 --> 02:00:05,805
- How you doing, man?
- Nice to see you, Dr. G. How you feeling?

2535
02:00:05,805 --> 02:00:07,173
I want to be just like you when I grow up.

2536
02:00:07,207 --> 02:00:08,308
You know what?
You're gonna be better than me.

2537
02:00:08,308 --> 02:00:10,210
- Get out of here. Take care now.
- All right. Good seeing you now.

2538
02:00:10,243 --> 02:00:12,512
♪ Stand by me ♪

2539
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:14,948
- ♪ Ooh ♪
- ♪ Come on and ♪

2540
02:00:15,150 --> 02:00:17,484
- ♪ Stand ♪
- ♪ Stand by me ♪

2541
02:00:18,952 --> 02:00:20,687
♪ Oh, stand... ♪