1 00:00:39,839 --> 00:00:42,942 Hey, one, two, three. 2 00:00:47,814 --> 00:00:51,170 ♪ Now, red Solo cup is the best receptacle ♪ 3 00:00:51,510 --> 00:00:53,920 ♪ For barbecues, tailgates, fairs and festivals ♪ 4 00:00:53,953 --> 00:00:56,756 ♪ And you, sir, do not have a pair of testicles ♪ 5 00:00:56,856 --> 00:00:59,959 ♪ If you prefer drinking from glass, whoo ♪ 6 00:00:59,959 --> 00:01:02,529 -♪ Red Solo cup ♪ -♪ Uh-huh ♪ 7 00:01:02,529 --> 00:01:04,330 ♪ I fill you up ♪ 8 00:01:04,364 --> 00:01:06,933 ♪ Let's have a party ♪ 9 00:01:07,567 --> 00:01:10,303 ♪ Let's have a party ♪ 10 00:01:10,337 --> 00:01:13,239 ♪ I love you, red Solo cup ♪ 11 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,975 ♪ I lift you up ♪ 12 00:01:16,900 --> 00:01:22,150 ♪ Proceed to party, proceed to party ♪ 13 00:01:22,982 --> 00:01:25,552 ♪ Now, I really love how you're easy to stack ♪ 14 00:01:25,585 --> 00:01:28,254 ♪ But I really hate how you're easy to crack ♪ 15 00:01:28,288 --> 00:01:31,257 ♪ 'Cause when beer runs down the front of my back ♪ 16 00:01:31,291 --> 00:01:34,260 ♪ Well, that, my friends, is quite yucky ♪ 17 00:01:34,294 --> 00:01:37,970 ♪ But I have to admit that the ladies get smitten ♪ 18 00:01:37,130 --> 00:01:38,998 ♪ Admiring how sharply ♪ 19 00:01:39,320 --> 00:01:40,567 ♪ My first name is written ♪ 20 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,300 ♪ On you with a Sharpie when I get to hitting ♪ 21 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,139 ♪ On them to help me get lucky ♪ 22 00:01:46,172 --> 00:01:48,308 ♪ Red Solo cup ♪ 23 00:01:49,275 --> 00:01:50,877 ♪ I fill you up ♪ 24 00:01:50,910 --> 00:01:53,580 ♪ Let's have a party ♪ 25 00:01:53,613 --> 00:01:58,840 ♪ Proceed to party ♪ 26 00:01:59,252 --> 00:02:02,220 -♪ Solo cup ♪ -♪ Bah, oh, doo ♪ 27 00:02:02,550 --> 00:02:05,125 -♪ Solo cup ♪ -♪ Oh, bo, doo ♪ 28 00:02:05,158 --> 00:02:08,280 -♪ Solo cup ♪ -♪ Ah, oh, doo ♪ 29 00:02:08,610 --> 00:02:10,964 -♪ Solo cup ♪ -♪ Ah, ooh, doodle, da, doo ♪ 30 00:02:10,997 --> 00:02:13,967 -♪ Solo cup ♪ -♪ Uh-huh, mm ♪ 31 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,970 -♪ Solo cup ♪ -♪ De, dum, dum ♪ 32 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:19,939 -♪ Solo cup ♪ -♪ Ooh, de, da, bah. ♪ 33 00:02:30,984 --> 00:02:33,553 The potential in this room is astounding. 34 00:02:33,586 --> 00:02:34,854 I love the potential. 35 00:02:34,888 --> 00:02:36,322 Hundred percent. 36 00:02:36,356 --> 00:02:38,124 It's a world of infinite possibilities. 37 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:39,993 -Infinite. -Hundred percent. 38 00:02:40,260 --> 00:02:42,462 How many "Y"s do I put in "Hey" at this time of night? 39 00:02:42,495 --> 00:02:43,997 -Is it before 2:00 a.m.? -Yeah. 40 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:45,465 -Two "Y"s. -Okay. 41 00:02:45,498 --> 00:02:47,567 -Three is thirsty. -Thirsty. 42 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,602 And one is curt. 43 00:02:49,636 --> 00:02:50,937 You know what I was thinking about? 44 00:02:50,970 --> 00:02:52,472 Cookie dough became so popular. 45 00:02:52,505 --> 00:02:54,574 It's 'cause it's not finished. It could still be anything. 46 00:02:54,607 --> 00:02:56,276 Hundred percent. 47 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:58,780 Making cookies out of cookie dough is just a suggestion. 48 00:02:58,111 --> 00:02:59,412 -Hundred percent. -That's what they say 49 00:02:59,446 --> 00:03:01,140 -you could do with it. -Right. 50 00:03:01,470 --> 00:03:02,349 And the same thing-- like dating someone 51 00:03:02,382 --> 00:03:03,616 for more than a month. 52 00:03:03,650 --> 00:03:05,218 It's just a serving suggestion. 53 00:03:05,251 --> 00:03:07,870 Hundred percent. 54 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,555 "Kara question mark." That means I don't remember 55 00:03:08,588 --> 00:03:10,156 -where I met her. -Okay. 56 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:11,558 But it's a question mark with an exclamation point, 57 00:03:11,591 --> 00:03:13,326 which means I should want to follow up. 58 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,328 -Let's see what the options are first though. -Yes. 59 00:03:15,362 --> 00:03:17,497 Exactly that. That's the world that we're living in. 60 00:03:17,530 --> 00:03:20,100 You can just see what the options are for anything. 61 00:03:20,133 --> 00:03:21,501 Like with travel. 62 00:03:21,534 --> 00:03:23,300 You're not gonna just pick the first flight you see. 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,104 You want to see all the flights. 64 00:03:24,137 --> 00:03:25,405 -That's a good thing. -Yeah. 65 00:03:25,438 --> 00:03:27,400 You get the best flight that way. 66 00:03:27,730 --> 00:03:28,408 Why wouldn't you get the best person 67 00:03:28,441 --> 00:03:30,343 by looking at all the potential people? 68 00:03:30,377 --> 00:03:31,911 And how could you even expect to find one person 69 00:03:31,945 --> 00:03:33,413 who could fulfill all of your needs? 70 00:03:33,446 --> 00:03:36,583 It's easier just to find the most supportive person here. 71 00:03:36,616 --> 00:03:38,451 -The funniest person here. -Right. 72 00:03:38,485 --> 00:03:39,686 -The best *** here. -Right. 73 00:03:39,719 --> 00:03:40,987 The best advice here. 74 00:03:41,210 --> 00:03:42,589 The second-best *** here. 75 00:03:42,622 --> 00:03:44,570 Hundred percent. 76 00:03:44,900 --> 00:03:45,425 I don't ever want to go past 77 00:03:45,458 --> 00:03:47,193 knowing what someone's parents do for a living. 78 00:03:47,227 --> 00:03:48,661 If I know what someone's parents do for a living... 79 00:03:48,695 --> 00:03:50,463 -Right. Right. -I've hung too long. 80 00:03:50,497 --> 00:03:52,399 Or, like, siblings. Like, why does anyone want to know 81 00:03:52,432 --> 00:03:54,234 about your siblings? Especially so early. 82 00:03:54,267 --> 00:03:56,136 -Yeah. -"How many siblings do you have?" 83 00:03:56,169 --> 00:03:57,704 Has that ever changed whether you want to date somebody? 84 00:03:57,737 --> 00:03:59,406 It's like, "I have two sisters and a brother." 85 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:01,740 -Whoa. Hold on. -Well, I'm out of here. 86 00:04:01,107 --> 00:04:02,409 -I'm out of here. -You know what I just say? 87 00:04:02,442 --> 00:04:04,144 I only date only children or the oldest of three. 88 00:04:04,177 --> 00:04:05,278 They say, "Exercise your options." 89 00:04:05,311 --> 00:04:06,346 It's like a muscle. 90 00:04:06,379 --> 00:04:08,281 -Options are like a muscle. -Yeah. 91 00:04:08,314 --> 00:04:10,450 Some people are weak and atrophied, 92 00:04:10,483 --> 00:04:11,718 and they don't understand 93 00:04:11,751 --> 00:04:13,420 -how to exercise their options. -Yeah. 94 00:04:13,453 --> 00:04:16,990 My options are burly and strong and turgid. 95 00:04:17,230 --> 00:04:18,591 Hundred percent. 96 00:04:18,625 --> 00:04:20,994 People say guys like us are afraid of commitment. 97 00:04:21,270 --> 00:04:22,562 No. We're afraid of commitment 98 00:04:22,595 --> 00:04:24,970 to something we can't get out of. 99 00:04:24,130 --> 00:04:25,699 There's no such thing as fear of commitment. 100 00:04:25,732 --> 00:04:28,134 Fear of commitment is fear of regret. 101 00:04:28,168 --> 00:04:30,103 Hundred percent. Or fear of intimacy. 102 00:04:30,136 --> 00:04:32,380 Please, I'm intimate with everybody. 103 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,140 Do you ever wonder, 104 00:04:34,174 --> 00:04:37,210 if you did find something deeper with somebody, 105 00:04:37,243 --> 00:04:39,579 if that would somehow be more meaningful? 106 00:04:39,612 --> 00:04:41,581 I do sometimes. 107 00:04:41,614 --> 00:04:43,160 Like right now, I'm casually dating, 108 00:04:43,490 --> 00:04:44,451 like, six or seven different women. 109 00:04:44,484 --> 00:04:46,619 But I do wonder, deep down, what it would be like 110 00:04:46,653 --> 00:04:49,322 to seriously date two or three. 111 00:04:49,356 --> 00:04:51,424 Even when I don't understand you, 112 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:53,593 I understand you better than I understand anybody. 113 00:04:53,626 --> 00:04:55,762 -Hundred percent. -I love when we hang out. 114 00:04:55,795 --> 00:04:58,640 This is like, if someone were recording this, 115 00:04:58,980 --> 00:04:59,532 that's what my podcast should be. 116 00:04:59,566 --> 00:05:01,668 There should be, like, the sound of a stand-up bass 117 00:05:01,701 --> 00:05:03,336 playing under me right now. 118 00:05:05,710 --> 00:05:06,106 Okay, I got one. 119 00:05:06,139 --> 00:05:08,274 "Brunette Random House Party." 120 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:09,776 "Random House," the publisher? 121 00:05:09,809 --> 00:05:13,790 Or "random house," like a random house party? 122 00:05:14,214 --> 00:05:15,548 Oh, "Emily Vogue." 123 00:05:15,582 --> 00:05:17,584 Uh, I'm gonna go with "Kara question mark" 124 00:05:17,617 --> 00:05:19,519 'cause I feel like letting the universe surprise me tonight. 125 00:05:19,552 --> 00:05:21,354 -What a time to be alive. -Hundred percent. 126 00:05:21,388 --> 00:05:22,555 -Hundred percent. -Hundred percent. 127 00:05:22,589 --> 00:05:23,690 Hundred percent. 128 00:05:23,723 --> 00:05:25,250 -Hundred percent. -Hundred percent. 129 00:05:26,626 --> 00:05:27,761 I figured it out. 130 00:05:27,794 --> 00:05:29,195 Figured what out? 131 00:05:29,229 --> 00:05:31,164 America. 132 00:05:31,197 --> 00:05:32,232 Okay. 133 00:05:32,265 --> 00:05:33,500 I know you're laughing, 134 00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:34,701 but I have a pitch you're really gonna like. 135 00:05:34,734 --> 00:05:36,236 America is divided, 136 00:05:36,269 --> 00:05:38,471 but it's not for the reason that we think. 137 00:05:38,505 --> 00:05:41,174 We think that America's divided by geography: 138 00:05:41,207 --> 00:05:44,377 red state, blue state, city, country. 139 00:05:44,411 --> 00:05:46,746 We're missing something far more profound. 140 00:05:46,780 --> 00:05:48,648 America isn't divided by space. 141 00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:50,517 America is divided by time. 142 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:52,419 -We don't live in the moment anymore. -Mm. 143 00:05:52,452 --> 00:05:54,521 And why would we, when we can live in any moment 144 00:05:54,554 --> 00:05:56,560 that's ever been recorded? 145 00:05:56,890 --> 00:05:58,191 And when we experience something we really love, 146 00:05:58,224 --> 00:05:59,392 our overwhelming instinct 147 00:05:59,426 --> 00:06:00,794 is to somehow file it away for later. 148 00:06:00,827 --> 00:06:02,262 That's interesting. 149 00:06:02,295 --> 00:06:04,197 We don't watch movies in the theater. 150 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:05,565 We don't watch TV when it airs. 151 00:06:05,598 --> 00:06:09,402 We don't even have conversations at the same time 152 00:06:09,436 --> 00:06:10,203 because we text. 153 00:06:10,236 --> 00:06:12,405 And when you text, I can say, "Hi," 154 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:14,274 and you could say "Hi" back in a second, 155 00:06:14,307 --> 00:06:16,476 -or a minute. -Or never. 156 00:06:16,509 --> 00:06:18,678 Or never 'cause it's you 157 00:06:18,712 --> 00:06:20,814 and you're too busy producing the biggest podcast in America, 158 00:06:20,847 --> 00:06:22,782 which is kind of my point because we're all living 159 00:06:22,816 --> 00:06:25,218 in our own individualized times. 160 00:06:25,251 --> 00:06:28,288 That's why we're living in divided times. 161 00:06:28,321 --> 00:06:29,322 That's... I like that. Ooh. 162 00:06:29,356 --> 00:06:31,157 -You like that? -Yeah. 163 00:06:31,191 --> 00:06:33,193 So, what do you think? Do you think that's a story? 164 00:06:34,561 --> 00:06:36,162 It's a theory. 165 00:06:36,196 --> 00:06:37,697 -A theory is a story. -No, a theory is not a story. 166 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:38,832 Yes, it is when it's about an idea. 167 00:06:38,865 --> 00:06:40,600 And America is an idea. 168 00:06:40,633 --> 00:06:42,235 That's what makes it so great. 169 00:06:42,268 --> 00:06:44,404 -So, if you're... -No, America is its people. 170 00:06:44,437 --> 00:06:47,207 That's what makes it so ****ed up. 171 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,176 Hey. Not every white guy in New York 172 00:06:50,210 --> 00:06:51,611 needs to have a podcast. 173 00:06:51,644 --> 00:06:53,213 You have the verified check mark. 174 00:06:53,246 --> 00:06:54,881 You got the New Yorker position. 175 00:06:54,914 --> 00:06:56,216 I want something more. 176 00:06:56,249 --> 00:06:58,184 I don't just want to be a writer. 177 00:06:58,218 --> 00:07:00,320 I... I want to be a voice. 178 00:07:00,353 --> 00:07:03,356 As dorky as it sounds, I care about America. 179 00:07:03,390 --> 00:07:05,325 And not in that faded Lana Del Rey way. 180 00:07:05,358 --> 00:07:06,593 And now I see it falling apart, 181 00:07:06,626 --> 00:07:08,261 and we're just standing in the corner, 182 00:07:08,294 --> 00:07:10,463 like, making fun of it, you know? 183 00:07:10,497 --> 00:07:14,601 I'd like to try to tell some story that... connects. 184 00:07:14,634 --> 00:07:17,871 Okay, okay. Well, then... let me help you connect. 185 00:07:17,904 --> 00:07:19,873 With all your ideas about America-- 186 00:07:19,906 --> 00:07:21,708 even if they're good, right?-- 187 00:07:21,741 --> 00:07:23,209 you gotta put 'em in a story 188 00:07:23,243 --> 00:07:25,712 'cause Americans listen to stories. 189 00:07:25,745 --> 00:07:27,147 'Cause Americans are people. 190 00:07:27,180 --> 00:07:30,150 They're not... ideas. 191 00:07:30,183 --> 00:07:32,519 -You're-you're here. -Yeah. 192 00:07:32,552 --> 00:07:34,354 You need to be here. 193 00:07:34,387 --> 00:07:36,723 Does that make sense? 194 00:07:36,756 --> 00:07:38,658 Hundred percent. 195 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:42,162 I'm Robin Dillon, 196 00:07:42,195 --> 00:07:43,630 and this is American Moment. 197 00:07:43,663 --> 00:07:47,167 To the organizers of the Western Montana fly-fishing... 198 00:08:07,787 --> 00:08:08,888 -Hi. -Hey. 199 00:08:08,922 --> 00:08:10,256 You changed your hair. 200 00:08:10,290 --> 00:08:11,791 -Yeah, you noticed. -Of course. 201 00:08:11,825 --> 00:08:13,393 How's the book world? 202 00:08:13,426 --> 00:08:14,661 The what? 203 00:08:14,694 --> 00:08:16,629 Uh, nothing. Uh, can I get you a drink? 204 00:08:16,663 --> 00:08:17,764 -Yes. -Great. 205 00:08:17,797 --> 00:08:19,399 Um, what can I make you? 206 00:08:19,432 --> 00:08:21,668 Um, can you do, like, a white wine? 207 00:08:21,701 --> 00:08:22,902 Um, sure. 208 00:08:22,936 --> 00:08:24,337 I have to open a bottle for that. 209 00:08:24,371 --> 00:08:25,672 Oh, that's okay. Open it. 210 00:08:25,705 --> 00:08:27,941 I only want, like, one glass. 211 00:08:51,731 --> 00:08:54,300 -Hello? -Ben? 212 00:08:55,735 --> 00:08:57,937 Yeah. Hello? 213 00:08:57,971 --> 00:08:59,572 This is the worst phone call 214 00:08:59,606 --> 00:09:02,275 you're ever gonna get in your life. 215 00:09:02,308 --> 00:09:04,678 Oh, my God. 216 00:09:05,845 --> 00:09:08,415 Your girlfriend's dead. 217 00:09:08,448 --> 00:09:11,818 I'm sorry. Wh... What did you say? 218 00:09:11,851 --> 00:09:13,319 She's dead. 219 00:09:13,353 --> 00:09:14,954 No, no, the first part. 220 00:09:14,988 --> 00:09:16,589 Your girlfriend. 221 00:09:16,623 --> 00:09:17,457 Yeah, I'm sorry. 222 00:09:17,490 --> 00:09:19,726 Hey, I don't... I don't understand. 223 00:09:19,759 --> 00:09:21,394 I know. I know, I know. 224 00:09:21,428 --> 00:09:23,496 We can't make no sense of it either. 225 00:09:23,530 --> 00:09:26,320 Who is this? 226 00:09:26,660 --> 00:09:27,734 This is Ty Shaw. 227 00:09:27,767 --> 00:09:29,336 Abby's brother. 228 00:09:29,369 --> 00:09:32,472 Um, hey, I don't... I don't really know what to say. 229 00:09:32,505 --> 00:09:34,974 Oh, I know, I know this must be so hard to process. 230 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:36,776 I'm so sorry. 231 00:09:36,810 --> 00:09:38,545 Abby told us so much about you. 232 00:09:38,578 --> 00:09:40,413 Abby. 233 00:09:41,470 --> 00:09:44,317 Oh, my God. 234 00:09:44,351 --> 00:09:45,752 Abby. 235 00:09:45,785 --> 00:09:47,854 Who's Abby? 236 00:09:47,887 --> 00:09:49,220 Uh, some girl. Um... 237 00:09:49,550 --> 00:09:51,858 -Who's that? -Uh, some... 238 00:09:52,692 --> 00:09:54,794 We definitely hung out a few times. 239 00:09:54,828 --> 00:09:56,763 I-I wouldn't have... 240 00:09:56,796 --> 00:09:57,997 Funeral's Sunday. 241 00:09:58,310 --> 00:09:59,699 Oh, my God. I'm, uh... 242 00:09:59,733 --> 00:10:01,568 Can you tell me where I can send flowers? 243 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:04,700 Oh, there's no need to send flowers, Ben. 244 00:10:04,104 --> 00:10:05,505 Oh, no, no, no, no, no. 245 00:10:05,538 --> 00:10:06,940 I'm absolutely gonna send flowers. 246 00:10:06,973 --> 00:10:08,375 Just, uh, you tell me the address. 247 00:10:08,408 --> 00:10:09,909 See if you can text it to me. 248 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:11,845 If you really want, there's a flower shop by the airport. 249 00:10:11,878 --> 00:10:14,781 We'll just swing by there when I pick you up. 250 00:10:14,814 --> 00:10:16,716 When you pick me up? 251 00:10:17,851 --> 00:10:19,853 Uh, hey. 252 00:10:19,886 --> 00:10:21,521 I will be there in spirit. 253 00:10:21,554 --> 00:10:23,323 Spirit Airlines. Right, man. 254 00:10:23,356 --> 00:10:24,524 That's a great choice. 255 00:10:24,557 --> 00:10:26,590 You just let me know what flight. 256 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,429 Uh, hey, uh, I... 257 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:30,964 This is just... 258 00:10:30,997 --> 00:10:32,980 I can't do this. 259 00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:33,867 None of us can do this. 260 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:35,335 Not alone. 261 00:10:36,770 --> 00:10:39,372 Y'all had your whole future ahead of you. 262 00:10:39,406 --> 00:10:40,774 Okay. 263 00:10:40,807 --> 00:10:42,800 Okay, don't cry. 264 00:10:43,510 --> 00:10:45,545 I mean, no, cry. Cry. 265 00:10:45,578 --> 00:10:47,113 -Um, of course. -Oh, God. 266 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:48,782 Be in touch with your emotions. Um... 267 00:10:48,815 --> 00:10:51,518 I can't believe we have to go through this. 268 00:10:51,551 --> 00:10:53,953 Okay. All right. Um, hey. 269 00:10:53,987 --> 00:10:55,955 Remind me where you guys are exactly. 270 00:10:55,989 --> 00:10:59,793 Well, you've been to Texas before? 271 00:11:02,696 --> 00:11:05,131 Texas. 272 00:11:05,165 --> 00:11:06,833 Okay, are you near Austin? 273 00:11:08,134 --> 00:11:11,104 No, we're not near Austin. 274 00:11:11,137 --> 00:11:13,873 -Dallas? -Dallas ain't Texas. 275 00:11:14,808 --> 00:11:17,610 -Houston? -Houston's another country. 276 00:11:17,644 --> 00:11:19,579 Why don't you just tell me where... 277 00:11:19,612 --> 00:11:22,148 Have you heard of Abilene? The city. 278 00:11:22,182 --> 00:11:24,584 Never heard of Abilene, no. 279 00:11:24,617 --> 00:11:27,587 Well, Abilene is about three hours from Dallas. 280 00:11:27,620 --> 00:11:28,421 Okay. 281 00:11:28,455 --> 00:11:30,890 And we're five hours from Abilene. 282 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:41,534 Ladies and gentlemen... 283 00:11:44,637 --> 00:11:46,473 Hey. Hi. 284 00:12:03,723 --> 00:12:05,525 And while she could be quite a handful 285 00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:07,560 when she was a girl... 286 00:12:10,930 --> 00:12:12,899 I can't believe I'm talking about my daughter 287 00:12:12,932 --> 00:12:14,968 in the past tense. 288 00:12:20,707 --> 00:12:23,143 She was living in New York. 289 00:12:23,176 --> 00:12:26,460 She was finding her voice in music. 290 00:12:26,790 --> 00:12:30,183 And she finally found love. 291 00:12:30,216 --> 00:12:32,218 Ben Manalowitz. 292 00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:33,820 A successful writer 293 00:12:33,853 --> 00:12:35,655 and a regular contributor to New York Magazine. 294 00:12:35,689 --> 00:12:37,657 The New Yorker. 295 00:12:37,691 --> 00:12:39,592 But even with all his success, 296 00:12:39,626 --> 00:12:42,696 he always respected our girl for who she was. 297 00:12:43,563 --> 00:12:44,831 "Mama," she said, 298 00:12:44,864 --> 00:12:47,767 "you know how he has me saved in his phone? 299 00:12:47,801 --> 00:12:48,902 Texas." 300 00:12:49,736 --> 00:12:52,539 Well, as short as her life was, 301 00:12:52,572 --> 00:12:54,140 she found her voice, 302 00:12:54,174 --> 00:12:56,976 and she found love. 303 00:12:57,100 --> 00:12:59,179 And that's all there is, right? 304 00:12:59,212 --> 00:13:02,449 That's right. 305 00:13:15,295 --> 00:13:16,863 Let's hear from Ben. 306 00:13:16,896 --> 00:13:18,231 -Go ahead. -Go on, Ben. 307 00:13:18,264 --> 00:13:19,699 No, I couldn't. 308 00:13:19,733 --> 00:13:21,234 -Thank you. -You got it. 309 00:13:21,267 --> 00:13:22,969 -Brother, come up. -Please say something. 310 00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:25,605 Get up there. 311 00:13:29,876 --> 00:13:32,479 Father. Sir. 312 00:13:39,285 --> 00:13:43,890 I never expected to be in a situation like this. 313 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:46,893 I'm sure none of us did. 314 00:13:49,290 --> 00:13:51,998 I wish I had known her better. 315 00:13:52,899 --> 00:13:55,735 I wish I had spent more time with her. 316 00:13:56,603 --> 00:13:59,906 I'm sure all of us feel that... 317 00:13:59,939 --> 00:14:01,675 right now. 318 00:14:01,708 --> 00:14:02,942 Yes. 319 00:14:06,946 --> 00:14:08,715 She loved music. 320 00:14:09,716 --> 00:14:12,886 I know that. I know that. 321 00:14:12,919 --> 00:14:14,654 She loved music. 322 00:14:14,688 --> 00:14:16,856 Yeah. 323 00:14:19,793 --> 00:14:22,595 And... 324 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:27,267 ...she will always be a song in our hearts. 325 00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:42,649 "Song in our hearts." 326 00:14:42,682 --> 00:14:45,251 Phew. You damn near broke me with that one. 327 00:14:45,285 --> 00:14:47,870 ♪ It's those eight-second chances ♪ 328 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,922 ♪ And cowgirl glances ♪ 329 00:14:48,955 --> 00:14:53,326 ♪ It's the blood and the glory, baby, that's why we ride... ♪ 330 00:14:55,962 --> 00:14:57,797 Now, I don't know about you, but... 331 00:14:57,831 --> 00:14:59,733 I know it hasn't been long, but I feel like me and you, 332 00:14:59,766 --> 00:15:01,935 we got a real bond. 333 00:15:01,968 --> 00:15:03,203 Kind of like family. 334 00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:05,710 Hundred percent. 335 00:15:06,873 --> 00:15:08,141 Wow. 336 00:15:08,174 --> 00:15:09,943 A hundred percent? 337 00:15:10,944 --> 00:15:11,878 Yeah. 338 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:14,214 Yeah. I felt really close to you guys today. 339 00:15:14,247 --> 00:15:16,783 Don't just say that to say it. 340 00:15:17,417 --> 00:15:19,853 -Yeah. -I knew it. 341 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:29,963 Abilene just didn't die. 342 00:15:29,996 --> 00:15:31,798 She was murdered. 343 00:15:31,831 --> 00:15:34,734 And the two of us are gonna avenge her death. 344 00:15:36,690 --> 00:15:37,404 What? 345 00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:40,240 You and me, we're gonna track her killer down 346 00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:42,108 and deliver vengeance. 347 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:46,680 Okay, nobody said anything about a killer. 348 00:15:46,713 --> 00:15:49,182 An overdose? 349 00:15:49,215 --> 00:15:50,884 At a party in an oil field? 350 00:15:50,917 --> 00:15:53,720 Yeah. The girl never took so much as an Advil in her life. 351 00:15:53,753 --> 00:15:56,156 You know that. You know her better than anybody. 352 00:15:57,857 --> 00:15:59,359 Did you call the police about this? 353 00:15:59,392 --> 00:16:02,762 In Texas, we don't dial 911. 354 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:04,764 Not even for, like, a fire? 355 00:16:04,798 --> 00:16:06,366 Fire or ambulance, fine. 356 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:08,335 Who do you think did it? 357 00:16:08,368 --> 00:16:09,836 I got a couple theories. 358 00:16:09,869 --> 00:16:12,872 Cartels. Mexican gangbanger I got my eyes on. 359 00:16:12,906 --> 00:16:14,441 I mean, this is just the beginning. 360 00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:15,809 It goes deep. 361 00:16:15,842 --> 00:16:18,178 And what's this based on? 362 00:16:18,211 --> 00:16:19,346 Gut. 363 00:16:19,379 --> 00:16:22,150 Right. What's behind that though? 364 00:16:22,849 --> 00:16:24,284 Ain't nothing behind gut. 365 00:16:24,317 --> 00:16:26,886 Gut's behind everything else. Otherwise, who are you? 366 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,855 I really think this is something for the police. 367 00:16:28,888 --> 00:16:30,924 Yeah. You talk about the police 368 00:16:30,957 --> 00:16:32,826 like it's just the same everywhere. 369 00:16:32,859 --> 00:16:35,762 Like the police is, um, McDonald's 370 00:16:35,795 --> 00:16:37,464 and justice is an Egg McMuffin. 371 00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:39,265 We don't have the police. 372 00:16:39,299 --> 00:16:41,340 We got Mike and Dan. 373 00:16:42,135 --> 00:16:46,740 You and me, we were the men in her life. 374 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,909 And they ****ed with the wrong two guys. 375 00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:53,113 Okay. Um... 376 00:16:53,146 --> 00:16:57,183 So, as, like, a personal boundary, 377 00:16:57,217 --> 00:16:58,785 like, everybody's different. 378 00:16:58,818 --> 00:17:00,320 Some people don't eat certain foods. 379 00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:02,889 You know, everybody... 380 00:17:02,922 --> 00:17:06,920 -I don't avenge deaths. -Mm-hmm. 381 00:17:06,126 --> 00:17:08,610 It's just who I am. 382 00:17:08,940 --> 00:17:11,297 I... You know, I don't live in a Liam Neeson movie. 383 00:17:12,298 --> 00:17:14,934 But you kind of look like a guy from a Liam Neeson movie though. 384 00:17:14,968 --> 00:17:16,202 Okay. 385 00:17:16,236 --> 00:17:17,871 Which one am I thinking about? 386 00:17:17,904 --> 00:17:19,372 It-it was a train. No, i-it was... 387 00:17:19,406 --> 00:17:20,807 -It was just on TV. -I don't know. 388 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,842 Schindler's List. Oh, my God. 389 00:17:22,876 --> 00:17:25,945 You look like a lot of those guys in that movie. 390 00:17:25,979 --> 00:17:28,181 Yeah. Thanks. 391 00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:30,750 You know, that was my least favorite Liam Neeson movie. 392 00:17:30,784 --> 00:17:32,318 Huge downer. 393 00:17:32,352 --> 00:17:34,120 It was a really sad movie. 394 00:17:34,154 --> 00:17:36,322 Ty, I know that you're in a lot of pain. 395 00:17:36,356 --> 00:17:37,824 Oh, yes, sir. We both are. 396 00:17:37,857 --> 00:17:39,225 And you have a lot of anger. 397 00:17:39,259 --> 00:17:42,195 Goddamn it, I'm asking you for your help. 398 00:17:42,228 --> 00:17:45,980 If we don't do this, it's like leaving her body 399 00:17:45,131 --> 00:17:48,735 out in the middle of that desert for the rest of our lives. 400 00:17:49,936 --> 00:17:52,839 I know it the minute I saw you. 401 00:17:52,872 --> 00:17:55,909 'Cause heart sees heart. 402 00:17:56,876 --> 00:17:59,879 Stay down here and avenge Abby's death with me. 403 00:18:01,414 --> 00:18:04,284 Oh, what a story that would be. 404 00:18:13,326 --> 00:18:14,894 Is this a pocket dial? 405 00:18:14,928 --> 00:18:15,995 I have a story. 406 00:18:16,290 --> 00:18:17,397 -Can it wait? -No. 407 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:19,299 I'm in Texas. I'm on my way back from a funeral. 408 00:18:19,332 --> 00:18:20,967 Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. 409 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,770 It's okay. It's not someone I was close to. 410 00:18:24,371 --> 00:18:26,373 But you flew to Texas for it? 411 00:18:26,406 --> 00:18:28,800 Uh, yes. 412 00:18:28,410 --> 00:18:30,343 Uh, it was a girl I hooked up with a few times. 413 00:18:30,377 --> 00:18:32,450 You flew to Texas 414 00:18:32,780 --> 00:18:34,381 to attend the funeral of a random hookup? 415 00:18:34,414 --> 00:18:37,283 Her family thought that we were more serious than I did. 416 00:18:37,317 --> 00:18:38,451 Do you know what? 417 00:18:38,485 --> 00:18:40,153 This is a story. 418 00:18:40,186 --> 00:18:42,122 -Yeah? -Yeah. 419 00:18:42,155 --> 00:18:42,956 It's you. 420 00:18:42,989 --> 00:18:44,991 The-the... Your whole way of life. 421 00:18:45,250 --> 00:18:47,270 It's dating, it's hookup culture. 422 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,396 How it enables disconnectedness. 423 00:18:49,429 --> 00:18:51,297 -The selfishness. -No. 424 00:18:51,331 --> 00:18:52,565 -The emptiness. -No. 425 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:53,566 -The hollowness. -That's not what I meant. 426 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,934 The lack of self-awareness. 427 00:18:54,968 --> 00:18:56,136 Okay, that's not what I'm pitching. 428 00:18:56,169 --> 00:18:57,370 It's really how sad your life is. 429 00:18:57,404 --> 00:18:58,605 Okay, now you're ****ing with me. 430 00:18:58,638 --> 00:19:01,574 Listen, I'm in West Texas 431 00:19:01,608 --> 00:19:03,209 where this family just lost their daughter 432 00:19:03,243 --> 00:19:04,344 to an opioid overdose. 433 00:19:04,377 --> 00:19:06,179 That is sad but common. 434 00:19:06,212 --> 00:19:09,916 Except, her brother won't accept it's an overdose. 435 00:19:09,949 --> 00:19:11,184 He says it was a murder. 436 00:19:11,217 --> 00:19:12,519 Based on what? 437 00:19:12,552 --> 00:19:14,220 Nothing. 438 00:19:14,254 --> 00:19:15,588 And that's the story. 439 00:19:15,622 --> 00:19:17,957 This is an existential crime story. 440 00:19:17,991 --> 00:19:20,994 This is In Cold Blood, but there are no killers. 441 00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:22,996 This is about a new American reality 442 00:19:23,290 --> 00:19:24,464 that people can't accept. 443 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:27,333 So instead, they invent these myths and conspiracies 444 00:19:27,367 --> 00:19:31,338 so they can cast themselves as heroes because... 445 00:19:31,371 --> 00:19:33,606 the truth is too hard to accept. 446 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,610 The death of Abilene is about the death of American identity 447 00:19:37,644 --> 00:19:39,179 and the need to find someone to blame for it. 448 00:19:39,212 --> 00:19:43,116 This isn't just a story about vengeance. 449 00:19:43,149 --> 00:19:45,985 It's a story about the need for vengeance. 450 00:19:46,190 --> 00:19:50,256 The meaning of vengeance. 451 00:19:53,927 --> 00:19:55,462 Dead white girl? 452 00:19:55,495 --> 00:19:57,364 Holy grail of podcasts. 453 00:19:57,397 --> 00:20:01,134 Eloise, I wish my recorder were already on. 454 00:20:01,167 --> 00:20:02,602 He's saying such crazy things already. 455 00:20:02,635 --> 00:20:04,904 Her brother? 456 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,141 He is such a character. 457 00:20:08,174 --> 00:20:10,760 And you can get close to the family? 458 00:20:10,110 --> 00:20:12,145 Can I get close to the family? 459 00:20:12,178 --> 00:20:14,381 They think I was her boyfriend. 460 00:20:14,414 --> 00:20:17,830 I mean... 461 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,320 ...I went to her funeral, for God's sake. 462 00:20:20,353 --> 00:20:21,554 That's good. 463 00:20:21,588 --> 00:20:23,490 I mean, it's ****ed up, but... 464 00:20:23,523 --> 00:20:25,225 but it's good for this. 465 00:20:25,258 --> 00:20:27,160 So? 466 00:20:29,290 --> 00:20:30,363 Okay, let's give it a shot. 467 00:20:31,297 --> 00:20:33,299 Oh! 468 00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:34,634 Okay, talk to me. Give me everything. 469 00:20:34,668 --> 00:20:36,102 Stay with the family, 470 00:20:36,136 --> 00:20:38,204 get as close as possible, record everything. 471 00:20:38,238 --> 00:20:39,973 'Cause you never know what will be important. 472 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,142 I'll be your editor, so I'll pull selects 473 00:20:42,175 --> 00:20:43,476 -and see what's there. -Okay. 474 00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:45,345 I'll have Tracy overnight you the equipment, 475 00:20:45,378 --> 00:20:47,547 but just use your phone in the meantime 476 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:49,649 and get the story, stay safe. 477 00:20:49,683 --> 00:20:51,840 You got it. 478 00:20:51,117 --> 00:20:52,952 -Not in that order. -In that order. 479 00:21:02,162 --> 00:21:07,330 The dust in West Texas settles like rain on a lake. 480 00:21:07,670 --> 00:21:10,370 I'm under a West Texas sky, bright blue Texan sky, 481 00:21:10,403 --> 00:21:14,708 where I've just learned about the death of Abilene Shaw. 482 00:21:14,741 --> 00:21:17,344 My... 483 00:21:17,377 --> 00:21:19,412 A person... 484 00:21:20,547 --> 00:21:22,515 ...who lived here. 485 00:21:30,757 --> 00:21:33,259 Hell yeah, brother. 486 00:21:33,293 --> 00:21:35,595 All right. 487 00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:38,640 I'm gonna stay with you guys for a couple of weeks. 488 00:21:38,980 --> 00:21:39,632 I'm gonna record everything 489 00:21:39,666 --> 00:21:41,201 that you think happened to Abilene. 490 00:21:41,234 --> 00:21:43,236 -Okay? -Hell yes. Then we kill him. 491 00:21:43,269 --> 00:21:44,204 No. 492 00:21:44,237 --> 00:21:47,107 I'm gonna put it on a podcast... 493 00:21:48,410 --> 00:21:53,613 ...and it will be on podcast platforms. 494 00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:55,548 That's ****ing brilliant. 495 00:21:55,582 --> 00:21:57,650 -Yeah. -You're ****ing smart. 496 00:21:57,684 --> 00:21:59,119 All right. 497 00:21:59,152 --> 00:22:00,553 Once people on Reddit find out... 498 00:22:02,550 --> 00:22:03,456 ...they'll kill him for us. 499 00:22:12,532 --> 00:22:15,100 All right. 500 00:22:27,113 --> 00:22:28,248 Hey, Mama. 501 00:22:28,281 --> 00:22:30,150 Guess who came back after all. 502 00:22:30,817 --> 00:22:32,185 Ben. 503 00:22:32,218 --> 00:22:33,753 -Hi. -Oh, my God. You came back. 504 00:22:33,787 --> 00:22:35,588 Ah... Oh. Thank you. 505 00:22:35,622 --> 00:22:38,591 Um, I hope I'm not imposing. 506 00:22:38,625 --> 00:22:40,930 Please. 507 00:22:40,126 --> 00:22:41,494 We have this empty seat at the table. 508 00:22:41,528 --> 00:22:44,330 We can use all the distraction we can get. 509 00:22:45,165 --> 00:22:46,800 Can I get you anything? 510 00:22:46,833 --> 00:22:48,301 Um... 511 00:22:48,335 --> 00:22:51,710 Uh, just, uh, what's the Wi-Fi situation? 512 00:22:51,104 --> 00:22:52,539 Oh, it's a little temperamental-- it'll kick in. 513 00:22:52,572 --> 00:22:54,774 Did you have a chance to meet everybody before? 514 00:22:54,808 --> 00:22:56,142 Uh, no. 515 00:22:56,176 --> 00:22:57,444 I would love to. 516 00:22:57,477 --> 00:22:59,245 -Uh, this is Abilene's sister, Paris. -Hi. 517 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:01,414 -She's 24, fixin' to be 25. -Yep. 518 00:23:01,448 --> 00:23:03,149 She's gonna be a famous filmmaker. 519 00:23:03,183 --> 00:23:05,485 It is a pleasure to meet you, Paris. 520 00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:07,454 Pleasure. I've heard so much about you. 521 00:23:07,487 --> 00:23:10,900 I've-I've heard... Yeah. 522 00:23:10,123 --> 00:23:11,291 And this is Kansas City. 523 00:23:11,324 --> 00:23:13,226 She's 17, fixin' to be 18. 524 00:23:13,259 --> 00:23:15,428 And she's gonna be a famous... 525 00:23:15,462 --> 00:23:16,629 Just famous. 526 00:23:16,663 --> 00:23:18,131 KC, I told you. 527 00:23:18,164 --> 00:23:20,133 Those are not our values. 528 00:23:20,166 --> 00:23:22,769 You have to be a famous something. 529 00:23:22,802 --> 00:23:25,638 A famous... 530 00:23:25,672 --> 00:23:27,273 celebrity. 531 00:23:28,608 --> 00:23:29,809 These are really your daughters? 532 00:23:29,843 --> 00:23:31,845 I mean, you all could be sisters. 533 00:23:31,878 --> 00:23:33,313 Oh. You are so sweet. 534 00:23:33,346 --> 00:23:34,681 You think that I look this ****ing old? 535 00:23:35,882 --> 00:23:38,118 And this is El Stupido. 536 00:23:38,151 --> 00:23:40,253 -Sorry? -This is El Stupido. 537 00:23:40,887 --> 00:23:42,722 That's what you call him? 538 00:23:42,756 --> 00:23:43,890 Oh. It's okay, Ben. 539 00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:45,658 He don't speak Spanish. 540 00:23:48,261 --> 00:23:51,464 And, uh, and how old are you? 541 00:23:51,498 --> 00:23:53,433 Nine. 542 00:23:53,466 --> 00:23:55,502 Fixin' to be ten? 543 00:23:59,739 --> 00:24:01,141 Yes, sir. 544 00:24:01,174 --> 00:24:02,442 Boys, come on. 545 00:24:02,475 --> 00:24:03,877 -Ben, come take a seat. -Thank you. 546 00:24:03,910 --> 00:24:05,345 You have a lovely home, by the way. 547 00:24:05,378 --> 00:24:06,913 -Thank you. -It's really nice. 548 00:24:06,946 --> 00:24:08,214 -This is Granny Carole. -Yeah. 549 00:24:08,248 --> 00:24:09,416 Granny for short. 550 00:24:09,449 --> 00:24:11,818 -Um, nice to meet you, Granny. -Yeah. 551 00:24:11,851 --> 00:24:14,354 Thank you. Um... 552 00:24:14,387 --> 00:24:16,856 So, Ben, tell us about yourself. 553 00:24:16,890 --> 00:24:18,725 Do you come from a close family? 554 00:24:18,758 --> 00:24:20,627 Yes. Um, we're very close. 555 00:24:20,660 --> 00:24:24,130 We don't see each other much, but we're very close. 556 00:24:24,831 --> 00:24:26,833 You from Texas? 557 00:24:26,866 --> 00:24:28,802 Oh. No, I'm not. 558 00:24:28,835 --> 00:24:29,903 Oh, I'm sorry. 559 00:24:29,936 --> 00:24:31,604 That you're not from Texas. 560 00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:35,308 -Have you been to Texas before, Ben? -Yes, actually. 561 00:24:35,342 --> 00:24:36,843 I've been to Austin, uh, for South By. 562 00:24:36,876 --> 00:24:38,445 For what? 563 00:24:38,478 --> 00:24:40,513 Uh, oh, South by Southwest is an annual festiv... 564 00:24:40,547 --> 00:24:41,881 No, for what band? 565 00:24:41,915 --> 00:24:43,717 You don't just go to South By. 566 00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:45,685 You go see a band, don't you? 567 00:24:46,686 --> 00:24:47,887 Uh, well, true. 568 00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:49,789 I was part of a journalism panel 569 00:24:49,823 --> 00:24:51,358 about the future of new media. 570 00:24:51,391 --> 00:24:52,926 -Amazing. -That's so cool. 571 00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:54,561 -Mm. -Thank you. -You're welcome. 572 00:24:54,594 --> 00:24:56,529 Um, speaking of. 573 00:24:56,563 --> 00:24:58,932 Would you mind if I recorded this dinner? 574 00:24:58,965 --> 00:25:00,300 -Oh. -Record us now? 575 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:00,934 -Yeah. -Hell yeah. 576 00:25:00,967 --> 00:25:02,535 Would we mind? 577 00:25:02,569 --> 00:25:03,837 -I love being recorded. -Great. Fantastic. 578 00:25:03,870 --> 00:25:04,938 Oh, my God. 579 00:25:04,971 --> 00:25:06,439 -Hey, smile. Okay? -Great. 580 00:25:06,473 --> 00:25:07,774 Well, would you want to hear 581 00:25:07,807 --> 00:25:09,809 the story of Texas? 582 00:25:09,843 --> 00:25:11,811 -Absolutely. -Huh? -Go, Granny. 583 00:25:11,845 --> 00:25:13,513 All right. Right here. 584 00:25:13,546 --> 00:25:15,315 -My goodness. -Mm. Okay. 585 00:25:15,982 --> 00:25:17,317 1836. 586 00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:18,752 Texas is part of Mexico, 587 00:25:18,785 --> 00:25:21,955 made up of settlers and English-speaking white folk. 588 00:25:21,988 --> 00:25:23,823 And, uh, they didn't like the government. 589 00:25:23,857 --> 00:25:25,392 What else is new? 590 00:25:25,425 --> 00:25:26,960 Them Texans wanted to do things their own way. 591 00:25:26,993 --> 00:25:28,461 What else is new? 592 00:25:28,495 --> 00:25:31,831 So, you take everybody's two favorite things, 593 00:25:31,865 --> 00:25:34,801 government and Mexicans. 594 00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:36,703 And guess what happens. 595 00:25:36,736 --> 00:25:37,971 -Huh? -Go on. 596 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,272 -Guess. -You should... In your words. 597 00:25:39,305 --> 00:25:40,440 All right. All right. 598 00:25:40,473 --> 00:25:42,842 Well, Generalissimo Santa Anna 599 00:25:42,876 --> 00:25:45,945 brung up 7,000 Mexican soldiers 600 00:25:45,979 --> 00:25:49,150 to fight against 186 Texan rebels 601 00:25:49,490 --> 00:25:51,584 at a place called the Alamo. 602 00:25:51,618 --> 00:25:53,420 And the Texans won. 603 00:25:53,453 --> 00:25:55,321 That's very inspiring. 604 00:25:55,355 --> 00:25:56,790 Say what? 605 00:25:58,491 --> 00:26:00,627 The Texans didn't win, Ben. 606 00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:02,295 Mm. 607 00:26:02,328 --> 00:26:04,831 They teach math where you from? 608 00:26:04,864 --> 00:26:08,100 186. 7,000. 609 00:26:08,340 --> 00:26:09,869 Um... 610 00:26:09,903 --> 00:26:12,339 7,000 is more, Ben. 611 00:26:12,372 --> 00:26:15,208 It was a massacre. 612 00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:18,278 It was unspeakable cruelty. 613 00:26:18,311 --> 00:26:19,779 Unspeakable cruelty. 614 00:26:19,813 --> 00:26:22,949 I'm sorry. I had no idea you didn't win the Alamo. 615 00:26:22,982 --> 00:26:25,352 Um... 616 00:26:25,385 --> 00:26:27,487 I feel like you guys talk about it a lot. 617 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,923 Who's "Equinox Girl Cute"? 618 00:26:29,956 --> 00:26:31,624 Um, a friend. 619 00:26:31,658 --> 00:26:33,760 Who's "Paris Review Party Asian"? 620 00:26:33,793 --> 00:26:35,595 -Excuse me. Um... -Very good reading. 621 00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:38,310 Let me, uh... The Wi-Fi must have just kicked on. 622 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,666 Who's "Natalie Bumble"? 623 00:26:39,699 --> 00:26:42,350 -Um, let-let me just... -Who's "Katie Raya"? 624 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,403 -Let me put that on... -Raya? 625 00:26:43,436 --> 00:26:44,871 Let me put that on airplane mode. 626 00:26:44,904 --> 00:26:46,639 I thought Raya was supposed to be exclusive. 627 00:26:46,673 --> 00:26:48,575 So what do you think of this place, Ben? 628 00:26:48,608 --> 00:26:50,577 I love it. 629 00:26:50,610 --> 00:26:52,545 -Are you joking? -Are you serious? You love it? 630 00:26:52,579 --> 00:26:53,913 You're from New York City. 631 00:26:53,947 --> 00:26:55,482 -Literally nothing happens here. -Yeah. 632 00:26:55,515 --> 00:26:59,786 Well, um... I mean, it is a little... 633 00:26:59,819 --> 00:27:02,550 -Hmm? -You know. 634 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,623 -Bleak. -Come on, that's not fair. 635 00:27:03,656 --> 00:27:05,392 -We just got a Target. -Excuse me? How dare you? 636 00:27:05,425 --> 00:27:07,427 Do you know how ****ing good our football team is? 637 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:09,462 -This is our town. -Okay, look, I don't know where to... 638 00:27:09,496 --> 00:27:10,830 where to land here. Um... 639 00:27:10,864 --> 00:27:12,799 Ben, there's probably something you should know 640 00:27:12,832 --> 00:27:14,401 -about this place. -Yeah. 641 00:27:14,434 --> 00:27:18,405 This is the most, uh, wretched, 642 00:27:18,438 --> 00:27:21,107 godforsaken stretch of land on the face of the earth. 643 00:27:21,141 --> 00:27:22,742 And I'd never leave. 644 00:27:22,776 --> 00:27:24,744 You know what I mean? 645 00:27:24,778 --> 00:27:27,380 Yeah. That's how I feel about Twitter. 646 00:27:27,414 --> 00:27:28,915 -Mm. -See, Ben's a journalist. 647 00:27:28,948 --> 00:27:30,717 One of the finest there is. 648 00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:32,419 He writes for the New York Magazine. 649 00:27:32,452 --> 00:27:33,687 New Yorker. Yep. 650 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,455 And he's gonna help us find out 651 00:27:35,488 --> 00:27:38,425 what really happened to Abilene. 652 00:27:38,458 --> 00:27:40,593 I was saying we go out and settle with a .45, 653 00:27:40,627 --> 00:27:44,764 but Ben gives a whole new perspective to the situation. 654 00:27:44,798 --> 00:27:48,601 Ty, you can't solve something like this with a .45. 655 00:27:48,635 --> 00:27:50,770 It's not as simple as one person. 656 00:27:50,804 --> 00:27:52,972 It's a whole system, son. 657 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,841 Tell us what you mean, Granny. 658 00:27:54,874 --> 00:27:56,743 It's the breakdown of society, is what it is. 659 00:27:56,776 --> 00:27:58,445 It's the breakdown of the school system, 660 00:27:58,478 --> 00:27:59,679 -the government. -Mm. 661 00:27:59,713 --> 00:28:02,582 It's the pharmaceutical companies. 662 00:28:02,615 --> 00:28:05,452 It's the breakdown of the family 663 00:28:05,485 --> 00:28:07,887 and tradition. 664 00:28:08,922 --> 00:28:11,591 Oh, there's a whole lot of people responsible 665 00:28:11,624 --> 00:28:13,993 -for what happened to Abilene. -That's true. 666 00:28:14,270 --> 00:28:15,161 -Yes, ma'am. -Amen. 667 00:28:15,195 --> 00:28:16,696 I think that's very wise. 668 00:28:16,730 --> 00:28:18,631 You're gonna need a 12-gauge, couple of ARs. 669 00:28:18,665 --> 00:28:20,660 -No. -Yep. -A Wesson automatic. 670 00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:21,534 -No, no, no. -And a sidearm for safety. 671 00:28:21,568 --> 00:28:23,136 -Yep. Exactly. -We're not doing that. 672 00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:25,572 Oh, we're not? Yeah. 673 00:28:26,740 --> 00:28:29,776 I didn't think you had the balls. 674 00:28:30,643 --> 00:28:33,380 Are you gonna help us, Ben? 675 00:28:35,810 --> 00:28:37,517 You know, um... 676 00:28:39,452 --> 00:28:43,456 There's some things I'm good at. 677 00:28:43,490 --> 00:28:45,759 I'm good at asking the right questions. 678 00:28:45,792 --> 00:28:47,894 I'm good at getting people to talk. 679 00:28:47,927 --> 00:28:51,531 And I'm especially good at drawing thematic connections 680 00:28:51,564 --> 00:28:53,990 between seemingly disparate elements 681 00:28:53,133 --> 00:28:55,100 and using that to illustrate 682 00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:57,570 a larger point or theory. 683 00:28:57,604 --> 00:29:01,841 So, whoever or whatever 684 00:29:01,875 --> 00:29:05,578 is responsible for what happened to Abilene, 685 00:29:05,612 --> 00:29:09,482 I will find this person 686 00:29:09,516 --> 00:29:13,553 or this generalized societal force, 687 00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:16,890 and I will define it. 688 00:29:17,891 --> 00:29:19,793 I'll define it. 689 00:29:22,829 --> 00:29:24,698 Bless your heart. 690 00:29:30,770 --> 00:29:33,840 I guess we have a guest room now. 691 00:29:36,643 --> 00:29:37,911 Ty. 692 00:29:39,112 --> 00:29:40,647 Well, rest up good. 693 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,816 We'll meet in the morning and start to solve this. 694 00:29:42,849 --> 00:29:43,983 Yeah. 695 00:29:44,170 --> 00:29:45,618 See you in the morning. 696 00:29:45,652 --> 00:29:47,587 -Good night, Ty. -Good night. 697 00:31:57,217 --> 00:31:58,985 Good morning. 698 00:31:59,786 --> 00:32:01,221 Yeah, that's it. What else...? 699 00:32:01,254 --> 00:32:02,822 -Can I say it proves a lot? -Yeah. 700 00:32:02,856 --> 00:32:04,391 I'm gonna take a short break here, 701 00:32:04,424 --> 00:32:06,920 and during this break, I hope you'll call 702 00:32:06,126 --> 00:32:09,396 and support this station during this long, important 703 00:32:09,429 --> 00:32:11,310 -membership drive. -Thanks. 704 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,699 We have some great free gifts to offer you, 705 00:32:12,732 --> 00:32:14,367 and I'm not just talking coffee mugs. 706 00:32:20,306 --> 00:32:23,900 Well, Ben, there's really two versions of life out here. 707 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:25,812 Boom times, everybody's rich and busy. 708 00:32:25,845 --> 00:32:28,148 It's like one big party out here. 709 00:32:28,181 --> 00:32:29,983 And then the bust comes. 710 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,685 It's really like two different places out here. 711 00:32:31,718 --> 00:32:33,753 It's always boom or bust. 712 00:32:33,787 --> 00:32:35,321 Which is it right now? 713 00:32:36,723 --> 00:32:38,580 Kinda in between. 714 00:32:38,910 --> 00:32:38,958 Yeah. 715 00:32:38,992 --> 00:32:40,860 Kinda in between, to tell you the truth. 716 00:32:40,894 --> 00:32:41,861 Okay. 717 00:32:43,763 --> 00:32:45,699 You son of a... 718 00:32:45,732 --> 00:32:47,267 -Get off. -Crawl. There's our worm. 719 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:49,135 Oh, you like being on top. 720 00:32:49,169 --> 00:32:52,205 -Get off. Yeah. -Whoo! 721 00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:53,340 This the guy? 722 00:32:53,373 --> 00:32:54,741 Yep. 723 00:32:54,774 --> 00:32:56,900 Hmm. 724 00:32:56,420 --> 00:32:58,780 Let me save you some time: Sancholo. 725 00:32:58,111 --> 00:32:59,412 Sancholo. Sancholo. 726 00:32:59,446 --> 00:33:00,814 What's Sancholo? 727 00:33:00,847 --> 00:33:03,830 The guy who killed Abilene. 728 00:33:03,116 --> 00:33:04,417 A Mexican drug dealer. 729 00:33:04,451 --> 00:33:06,386 Evil mother****er. 730 00:33:06,419 --> 00:33:08,210 You name it, he's got it. 731 00:33:08,540 --> 00:33:09,389 Not crazy about his prices though. 732 00:33:09,422 --> 00:33:11,891 So, you know who killed Abilene? 733 00:33:11,925 --> 00:33:12,692 Yes, sir. 734 00:33:12,726 --> 00:33:15,228 Did you call the police about it? 735 00:33:15,261 --> 00:33:16,796 Mike and Dan? 736 00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:18,431 Those lazy ****tards. 737 00:33:18,465 --> 00:33:19,766 Everything's an accident. 738 00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:20,767 Gun accident. 739 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,835 Uh, driving accident. 740 00:33:21,868 --> 00:33:23,870 I've known Abilene 741 00:33:23,903 --> 00:33:25,839 since we were knee-high to a grasshopper. 742 00:33:25,872 --> 00:33:27,841 She never touched so much as an Advil, 743 00:33:27,874 --> 00:33:29,909 and-and then, out of the blue, 744 00:33:29,943 --> 00:33:33,113 they find this angel, this angel, 745 00:33:33,146 --> 00:33:36,316 dead of an oxy OD at a party he threw! 746 00:33:36,349 --> 00:33:37,951 Ooh, you're getting me warmed up. 747 00:33:37,984 --> 00:33:39,986 He's been obsessed with her since middle school. 748 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,988 Yep. He'd call the house every night. 749 00:33:42,220 --> 00:33:43,990 They used to be on the phone for hours. 750 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,725 He's just a piece of it anyway. 751 00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:47,460 It's too big to understand. 752 00:33:47,494 --> 00:33:50,230 You got deep state in bed with pill pushers, 753 00:33:50,263 --> 00:33:52,298 -cartels, pedos. -Uh-huh. 754 00:33:52,332 --> 00:33:53,800 -The law. -How, wha... 755 00:33:53,833 --> 00:33:54,834 Hey, shh. Hey. 756 00:33:54,868 --> 00:33:57,700 And you're a piece of it, too. 757 00:33:57,871 --> 00:33:59,773 So, um, I'd love to talk 758 00:33:59,806 --> 00:34:01,207 to some of the characters you mentioned. 759 00:34:01,241 --> 00:34:03,760 Mike and Dan? Sancholo? 760 00:34:03,109 --> 00:34:04,511 Oh, he's gotta be at the rodeo in Holliston. 761 00:34:04,544 --> 00:34:05,945 No doubt. 762 00:34:05,979 --> 00:34:07,480 There and the honky-tonk, too, afterwards. 763 00:34:07,514 --> 00:34:10,830 -That's where a drug dealer can do their best business. -Mm. 764 00:34:10,116 --> 00:34:12,218 'Cause everybody goes to the rodeo. 765 00:34:12,252 --> 00:34:14,521 White, Mexicans. 766 00:34:14,554 --> 00:34:17,824 You really want to avenge her with him? 767 00:34:17,857 --> 00:34:19,459 I'm like a brother to you. 768 00:34:19,492 --> 00:34:21,961 Well, he's like a brother-in-law. 769 00:34:21,995 --> 00:34:23,863 Oh, come on. 770 00:34:23,897 --> 00:34:26,266 Ben, you ever been in a fight? 771 00:34:26,299 --> 00:34:27,801 You mean like a physical fight 772 00:34:27,834 --> 00:34:29,235 or like an online skirmish? 773 00:34:31,538 --> 00:34:33,139 I got him. 774 00:34:33,173 --> 00:34:36,420 Crawl wouldn't hurt a fly, would you, Crawl? 775 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,145 I never understood that expression about flies. 776 00:34:39,179 --> 00:34:41,247 Yeah, I'd kill a fly, 777 00:34:41,281 --> 00:34:44,918 but what kind of sick **** would hurt a fly? 778 00:34:44,951 --> 00:34:47,754 Make it feel pain? Hmm? 779 00:34:49,889 --> 00:34:54,994 You don't have any idea where you are, do you? 780 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:55,995 Hmm? 781 00:34:56,290 --> 00:34:58,765 Want me to show you a map? 782 00:34:59,532 --> 00:35:02,168 Welcome to Texas. 783 00:35:02,202 --> 00:35:04,571 You are here. 784 00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:22,288 Morning, KC. 785 00:35:22,322 --> 00:35:23,423 Hey. 786 00:35:23,456 --> 00:35:25,425 Uh, would you like some coffee? 787 00:35:25,458 --> 00:35:27,861 -Sure. -How do you take it? 788 00:35:29,429 --> 00:35:31,640 In the mouth? 789 00:35:35,201 --> 00:35:36,569 All right, tell me something 790 00:35:36,603 --> 00:35:38,304 that you love about where you live. 791 00:35:38,338 --> 00:35:40,440 -Whataburger! -Whoo. 792 00:35:40,473 --> 00:35:41,841 -Oh. -Yeah. -Okay, great. 793 00:35:41,875 --> 00:35:43,109 Um, tell me about it. 794 00:35:43,143 --> 00:35:44,544 -You want to go right now? -Yeah, let's go. 795 00:35:44,577 --> 00:35:46,179 -Uh... Uh... -I'm ready. 796 00:35:46,212 --> 00:35:48,480 -You want... -Just, no, just, uh, tell me about it. 797 00:35:48,810 --> 00:35:50,183 You're gonna love Whataburger, Ben. 798 00:35:50,216 --> 00:35:52,919 -Oh, it's the best. -What makes it the best? 799 00:35:52,952 --> 00:35:55,588 Wherever you are, there's a Whataburger. 800 00:35:55,622 --> 00:35:57,991 Yeah. It's always right there. 801 00:35:58,658 --> 00:36:00,927 Okay. And then when you get there, 802 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,595 what do you like about it? What do you get? 803 00:36:02,629 --> 00:36:04,130 -Whatever you want. -It's always right there. 804 00:36:04,164 --> 00:36:05,965 You could order whatever you want, Ben. 805 00:36:05,999 --> 00:36:08,935 Right, but there are a lot of places like that. 806 00:36:08,968 --> 00:36:11,204 So, let's say there is a McDonald's, 807 00:36:11,237 --> 00:36:14,140 a Burger King, a Sonic and a Whataburger 808 00:36:14,174 --> 00:36:15,375 all lined up. 809 00:36:15,408 --> 00:36:16,543 Which one do you go to? 810 00:36:16,576 --> 00:36:17,544 Whataburger! 811 00:36:17,577 --> 00:36:19,112 Right, right. Why? 812 00:36:19,145 --> 00:36:21,214 Because it's right there! 813 00:36:21,247 --> 00:36:23,249 Yes, but they're all right there. 814 00:36:24,217 --> 00:36:28,154 In this scenario, they're all right there. 815 00:36:28,188 --> 00:36:32,920 So, what do you get out of Whataburger? 816 00:36:32,125 --> 00:36:34,600 What makes it better to you? 817 00:36:34,940 --> 00:36:36,196 -What are you getting... -Ben. 818 00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:38,498 Asking why you love Whataburger 819 00:36:38,531 --> 00:36:40,233 is like asking why you love Christmas 820 00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:43,636 or a summer night or why you love your dog. 821 00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:45,939 I mean, you could point to the reasons, 822 00:36:45,972 --> 00:36:48,241 but the reasons aren't really the point. 823 00:36:48,274 --> 00:36:52,879 You just love it, and that's how love works. 824 00:37:05,425 --> 00:37:06,693 I'm on my way to get 825 00:37:06,726 --> 00:37:09,396 what could be some good local color. 826 00:37:09,429 --> 00:37:11,998 It's the place Abilene recorded some demos. 827 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,168 I'm heading towards the Quentin Sellers Music Factory. 828 00:37:15,201 --> 00:37:19,205 A place in Marfa, the arts town, where... 829 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,474 people pursue their dreams of musical stardom. 830 00:37:21,508 --> 00:37:26,312 His motto is "making dreams come true since 2018." 831 00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:30,830 Eloise, if you have, um... if you can play a clip of that, 832 00:37:30,116 --> 00:37:33,530 um, Rebecca Black song, "Friday," 833 00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:34,721 that would be really funny here. 834 00:37:34,754 --> 00:37:36,923 I bet it's cheap to play. 835 00:37:50,670 --> 00:37:53,440 ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 836 00:37:54,607 --> 00:37:56,443 ♪ Yeah ♪ 837 00:38:07,487 --> 00:38:08,755 ♪ Yeah ♪ 838 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:22,469 Okay. 839 00:38:24,104 --> 00:38:27,240 -Hi. -Hi. 840 00:38:28,108 --> 00:38:30,100 What is music? 841 00:38:30,430 --> 00:38:31,578 Like, singing and stuff. 842 00:38:31,611 --> 00:38:34,247 Yeah, that's right. 843 00:38:36,490 --> 00:38:39,190 Let's take a step back. 844 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,187 I want to share an idea with you. 845 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,759 There's no argument more profound 846 00:38:45,792 --> 00:38:49,950 than how the universe came into existence. 847 00:38:49,129 --> 00:38:50,797 -Oh, God. -Are we here because of God 848 00:38:50,830 --> 00:38:52,198 or science? 849 00:38:52,232 --> 00:38:55,502 I mean, it is, by its very nature, 850 00:38:55,535 --> 00:38:58,138 the most fundamental question. 851 00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:03,476 But there's one thing that everyone agrees on. 852 00:39:04,778 --> 00:39:08,415 And that is whether it was God declaring, 853 00:39:08,448 --> 00:39:11,251 "Let there be light," 854 00:39:11,284 --> 00:39:14,287 or an infinite particle of energy 855 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,258 bursting forth in the big bang. 856 00:39:18,291 --> 00:39:20,527 Everyone, 857 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,196 and I mean everyone, 858 00:39:23,229 --> 00:39:27,567 agrees that the universe 859 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,303 started with a sound. 860 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,742 Why do I call myself a record producer? 861 00:39:35,775 --> 00:39:38,244 I don't know. 862 00:39:38,278 --> 00:39:40,513 Yeah, I mean, we don't even make records anymore. 863 00:39:42,182 --> 00:39:45,719 What we're recording here isn't your record. 864 00:39:45,752 --> 00:39:48,154 It's your sound... 865 00:39:48,188 --> 00:39:52,192 on the record that started 866 00:39:52,225 --> 00:39:55,495 with the very first moment in time. 867 00:39:56,329 --> 00:39:59,232 So when you sing this song... 868 00:40:01,301 --> 00:40:06,172 ...I want you to think about how what you're making 869 00:40:06,206 --> 00:40:12,145 is the record of your time here on this earth. 870 00:40:13,246 --> 00:40:17,817 It's the sound that you scratch 871 00:40:17,851 --> 00:40:21,187 with your life... 872 00:40:21,855 --> 00:40:24,524 ...on the record of the universe. 873 00:40:27,694 --> 00:40:29,662 -Okay? -Okay. 874 00:40:34,234 --> 00:40:40,373 ♪ I finished my shift at Claire's ♪ 875 00:40:40,407 --> 00:40:46,479 ♪ Climbed up those steep mall stairs ♪ 876 00:40:46,513 --> 00:40:52,419 ♪ And the pain of having nowhere to go ♪ 877 00:40:52,452 --> 00:40:55,655 ♪ Pierced the skin of my soul ♪ 878 00:40:55,689 --> 00:40:59,626 ♪ As I sat on the steps ♪ 879 00:40:59,659 --> 00:41:01,861 ♪ And waited and waited ♪ 880 00:41:01,895 --> 00:41:07,467 ♪ For no one to take me home. ♪ 881 00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:09,736 Yeah. 882 00:41:11,404 --> 00:41:12,639 Thank you. 883 00:41:12,672 --> 00:41:14,641 I call this place the Factory. 884 00:41:14,674 --> 00:41:17,344 -You know, after Andy Warhol's Factory. -Hmm. 885 00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:19,946 Most people around here think it's a reference 886 00:41:19,979 --> 00:41:21,748 to C+C Music Factory. 887 00:41:21,781 --> 00:41:25,952 Which, honestly, I-I think Warhol would've loved, but... 888 00:41:25,985 --> 00:41:28,254 Yeah, actually. Yeah. 889 00:41:28,288 --> 00:41:29,422 I'm from out here. 890 00:41:29,456 --> 00:41:30,857 I went to college in New Haven. 891 00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:32,525 Oh, I went to school in Boston. 892 00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:34,361 Yeah, I thought about staying there, 893 00:41:34,394 --> 00:41:36,496 but this is the place that needs something like this. 894 00:41:36,529 --> 00:41:38,798 The problem isn't that people aren't smart. 895 00:41:38,832 --> 00:41:40,900 The problem is that they are. 896 00:41:40,934 --> 00:41:42,702 If the landscape is like this, 897 00:41:42,736 --> 00:41:45,805 a-and people were just boring, you wouldn't have this problem. 898 00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:48,942 The problem is, you get all these bright, creative lights 899 00:41:48,975 --> 00:41:51,678 and nowhere to plug in their energy. 900 00:41:51,711 --> 00:41:53,880 And so it gets channeled into conspiracy theories 901 00:41:53,913 --> 00:41:55,715 and drugs and violence. 902 00:41:55,749 --> 00:41:58,284 Who are your favorite music artists right now? 903 00:41:58,318 --> 00:41:59,586 Um... 904 00:41:59,619 --> 00:42:00,954 -Can I take a guess? -Yeah. 905 00:42:00,987 --> 00:42:02,355 You're a playlist guy. 906 00:42:02,389 --> 00:42:03,957 What does that mean? 907 00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:05,558 When some computer recommends you a bunch of songs 908 00:42:05,592 --> 00:42:07,861 based on your favorites, and a bunch more 909 00:42:07,894 --> 00:42:09,396 -based on your favorites of those. -Right. 910 00:42:09,429 --> 00:42:10,997 So you're listening to a bunch of music that, 911 00:42:11,310 --> 00:42:13,299 -I mean, you genuinely like... -Yeah. 912 00:42:13,333 --> 00:42:14,801 ...but you have no idea who sings it. 913 00:42:14,834 --> 00:42:17,437 Now, these playlists, it's like the dating app for music. 914 00:42:17,470 --> 00:42:19,439 You're not hearing other people's voices. 915 00:42:19,472 --> 00:42:21,941 You're just hearing your voice get played back at you. 916 00:42:21,975 --> 00:42:24,477 How are you supposed to fall in love? 917 00:42:25,545 --> 00:42:28,448 Art used to be in charge of us. 918 00:42:28,481 --> 00:42:29,716 You used to buy a whole album 919 00:42:29,749 --> 00:42:32,485 not even knowing what songs would be on it. 920 00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:35,822 Now we have everything on demand. 921 00:42:36,856 --> 00:42:39,459 At your fingertips. 922 00:42:39,492 --> 00:42:41,561 In pieces. 923 00:42:42,495 --> 00:42:44,464 You think half the people that are posting quotes 924 00:42:44,497 --> 00:42:47,000 from Oscar Wilde have ever actually read one of his plays? 925 00:42:47,330 --> 00:42:48,334 No. 926 00:42:48,368 --> 00:42:49,736 Or posting photos of Audrey Hepburn 927 00:42:49,769 --> 00:42:52,439 have actually seen the film that it's from? 928 00:42:52,472 --> 00:42:54,274 -No. -Not a chance, right? 929 00:42:54,307 --> 00:42:55,608 What is that about, huh? 930 00:42:55,642 --> 00:42:58,478 It's the same in culture as it is in archaeology. 931 00:42:58,511 --> 00:43:00,613 When a civilization collapses, 932 00:43:00,647 --> 00:43:03,160 only the tiniest fragments remain. 933 00:43:03,490 --> 00:43:04,951 But we can build it back again. 934 00:43:04,984 --> 00:43:07,200 How? 935 00:43:07,530 --> 00:43:08,955 Make recordings. 936 00:43:08,988 --> 00:43:11,491 Real people. 937 00:43:11,524 --> 00:43:13,693 Not what people think that they already know 938 00:43:13,727 --> 00:43:15,610 and want to hear. 939 00:43:15,950 --> 00:43:16,763 Real people. 940 00:43:16,796 --> 00:43:21,668 Not some generic stereotype or generic song. 941 00:43:22,669 --> 00:43:25,472 Real people. 942 00:43:27,730 --> 00:43:28,908 What's this podcast about anyway? 943 00:43:28,942 --> 00:43:30,677 Well, um, it's about America. 944 00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:31,711 Okay. 945 00:43:31,745 --> 00:43:35,782 It's about the myths that we tell ourselves. 946 00:43:35,815 --> 00:43:36,850 Who is it about? 947 00:43:38,351 --> 00:43:39,753 All of us. 948 00:43:39,786 --> 00:43:43,390 Every story we tell is ultimately about a person. 949 00:43:44,691 --> 00:43:46,260 Abilene Shaw. 950 00:43:46,590 --> 00:43:47,994 Abilene. 951 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,796 Yeah. 952 00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:52,665 You're making a podcast about Abilene. 953 00:43:52,699 --> 00:43:54,367 Well, it's a little about Abilene. 954 00:43:54,401 --> 00:43:56,690 -I'm trying to make it more about... -No. 955 00:43:56,102 --> 00:43:57,937 It's about Abilene. 956 00:43:57,971 --> 00:43:58,938 The person. 957 00:43:58,972 --> 00:44:00,373 That's all you need. 958 00:44:00,407 --> 00:44:01,808 What did you think about her music? 959 00:44:01,841 --> 00:44:03,900 I haven't really heard it. 960 00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:04,544 Shut the front door. 961 00:44:04,577 --> 00:44:07,447 -I mean, I have... -Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. 962 00:44:09,716 --> 00:44:12,318 Come with me. 963 00:44:12,952 --> 00:44:14,454 Here it is. 964 00:44:14,487 --> 00:44:15,822 Everything we ever recorded. 965 00:44:15,855 --> 00:44:17,724 -Thank you so much. -You're in for a treat. 966 00:44:18,758 --> 00:44:21,428 Doesn't she have a sister who wants to be a singer? 967 00:44:21,461 --> 00:44:22,996 Wants to be famous. 968 00:44:23,290 --> 00:44:24,998 Means she knows she's somebody. 969 00:44:25,310 --> 00:44:27,330 Just doesn't know who yet. 970 00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:29,469 She needs to find her voice. 971 00:44:30,136 --> 00:44:31,571 What about my voice? 972 00:44:31,604 --> 00:44:33,440 I'll put you in the studio. 973 00:44:33,473 --> 00:44:34,941 What do you want to do? 974 00:44:34,974 --> 00:44:37,744 I-I, you know... 975 00:44:37,777 --> 00:44:42,820 If I came here for advice about my voice, my... 976 00:44:42,115 --> 00:44:45,510 you know, my writing, my podcast, 977 00:44:45,850 --> 00:44:47,354 what would you tell me? 978 00:44:48,922 --> 00:44:53,626 I'd probably say that nobody writes anything. 979 00:44:54,894 --> 00:44:56,996 All we do is translate. 980 00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:00,500 So if you ever get stuck and you don't know what to say... 981 00:45:01,201 --> 00:45:03,370 ...just listen. 982 00:45:03,937 --> 00:45:06,539 Even to the silences. 983 00:45:07,707 --> 00:45:12,579 Listen as hard as you can to the world around you and... 984 00:45:12,612 --> 00:45:15,849 repeat back what you hear. 985 00:45:16,850 --> 00:45:19,520 That translation, 986 00:45:19,850 --> 00:45:21,454 that's your voice. 987 00:45:28,795 --> 00:45:30,897 I gotta say, this is not anything 988 00:45:30,930 --> 00:45:32,766 like what I expected to find. 989 00:45:32,799 --> 00:45:35,100 You came here to make fun of me, didn't you? 990 00:45:36,636 --> 00:45:38,710 -No, no. No. -No, I get it's... 991 00:45:38,104 --> 00:45:39,773 It's... I get it. 992 00:45:39,806 --> 00:45:42,208 Record producer in the middle of nowhere. 993 00:45:42,242 --> 00:45:44,944 You thought I'd be sillier, smaller. 994 00:45:44,978 --> 00:45:46,813 I get it. 995 00:45:46,846 --> 00:45:49,482 Hey, look. 996 00:45:49,516 --> 00:45:51,170 It's already working. 997 00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:53,486 You listened. 998 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,788 You learned. 999 00:45:58,240 --> 00:45:59,793 Welcome to Texas. 1000 00:46:05,498 --> 00:46:07,701 Thank you. 1001 00:46:18,845 --> 00:46:22,849 The setting sun sets Texas afire with a glow. 1002 00:46:23,717 --> 00:46:25,510 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1003 00:46:25,850 --> 00:46:27,754 It's ****ing beautiful. 1004 00:46:36,162 --> 00:46:37,630 Well, hi. 1005 00:46:40,567 --> 00:46:42,135 Thank you. 1006 00:46:42,168 --> 00:46:44,771 Uh, when I told my mama that I was gonna move to New York 1007 00:46:44,804 --> 00:46:46,573 and try and make it in music, 1008 00:46:46,606 --> 00:46:49,576 she looked at me and she just said, "Bless your heart." 1009 00:46:49,609 --> 00:46:53,146 Which is Texas for, "**** you." 1010 00:46:53,179 --> 00:46:54,981 Love you, Mama. 1011 00:46:56,282 --> 00:47:01,540 ♪ True love will find you in the end ♪ 1012 00:47:02,789 --> 00:47:07,270 ♪ You'll find out just who is your friend ♪ 1013 00:47:09,929 --> 00:47:13,233 ♪ Don't be sad, I know you will... ♪ 1014 00:47:13,266 --> 00:47:15,602 Ah... 1015 00:47:15,635 --> 00:47:18,538 Will you help me unjam my gun? 1016 00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:22,420 I don't know how to do that. 1017 00:47:32,952 --> 00:47:35,889 They ought to call you El Stupido. 1018 00:47:40,226 --> 00:47:42,595 Can I sleep on your floor? 1019 00:47:43,196 --> 00:47:45,198 Yeah. 1020 00:47:45,231 --> 00:47:47,133 Of course. 1021 00:47:48,168 --> 00:47:50,537 Thank you. 1022 00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:13,293 ♪ I'm still drivin' ♪ 1023 00:48:13,326 --> 00:48:16,960 ♪ When's this break gon' come? ♪ 1024 00:48:16,129 --> 00:48:18,598 ♪ You back my pickin' ♪ 1025 00:48:18,631 --> 00:48:21,801 ♪ With a big ol' timpani drum... ♪ 1026 00:48:21,835 --> 00:48:24,337 Vengeance is a unique phenomenon. 1027 00:48:24,371 --> 00:48:26,600 Texas invented vengeance. 1028 00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:28,842 It makes no sense if you think about it. 1029 00:48:28,875 --> 00:48:30,343 Every other primal human instinct 1030 00:48:30,377 --> 00:48:32,746 leads to a clear evolutionary reward. 1031 00:48:32,779 --> 00:48:34,748 But vengeance is different. 1032 00:48:34,781 --> 00:48:36,116 It's not about the future. 1033 00:48:36,149 --> 00:48:38,180 It's only about the past. 1034 00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:40,153 When that massacre happened, we didn't retreat. 1035 00:48:40,186 --> 00:48:44,224 We didn't say, "Let's all make sure we don't get Mexiphobia." 1036 00:48:44,257 --> 00:48:46,726 We said, "Remember the Alamo." 1037 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,194 It's not about hope. 1038 00:48:48,228 --> 00:48:49,929 It's about regret. 1039 00:48:49,963 --> 00:48:52,980 Abby was always creatively minded. 1040 00:48:52,132 --> 00:48:54,234 She would make movies with her sisters. 1041 00:48:54,267 --> 00:48:55,769 Music, of course. 1042 00:48:55,802 --> 00:48:59,390 Oh, she had such a beautiful voice. 1043 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:01,141 I really wish more people could've heard it. 1044 00:49:01,174 --> 00:49:02,275 You're a writer. 1045 00:49:02,308 --> 00:49:04,144 Anything I'd know? 1046 00:49:05,245 --> 00:49:07,470 None of this. 1047 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,848 The desperation that you see around here, 1048 00:49:08,882 --> 00:49:11,718 it's not from a lack of intelligence or creativity. 1049 00:49:11,751 --> 00:49:13,190 It's an excess. 1050 00:49:13,530 --> 00:49:14,854 We're not really a gun family. 1051 00:49:14,888 --> 00:49:17,230 We have a few rifles for shooting targets, 1052 00:49:17,570 --> 00:49:18,858 a couple handguns for safety, and... 1053 00:49:18,892 --> 00:49:20,860 -And that doesn't concern you? -Why would it concern me? 1054 00:49:20,894 --> 00:49:22,762 There's this playwright, Anton Chekhov, 1055 00:49:22,796 --> 00:49:25,131 and he says that if there's a gun in act one of a play... 1056 00:49:25,165 --> 00:49:28,101 There's no guns in any one of his plays I can think of. 1057 00:49:28,134 --> 00:49:29,936 Cherry Orchard, no. Uncle Vanya, no. 1058 00:49:29,969 --> 00:49:31,304 I'm not actually that familiar with his plays. 1059 00:49:31,338 --> 00:49:33,730 Uh, I'm more familiar with his theory. 1060 00:49:33,106 --> 00:49:36,743 But the stakes of these feelings aren't hypothetical. 1061 00:49:36,776 --> 00:49:38,411 They're all too real. 1062 00:49:38,445 --> 00:49:41,881 I'm your host, Ben Manalowitz, from American Radio Collective. 1063 00:49:41,915 --> 00:49:43,783 This is Dead White Girl. 1064 00:49:43,817 --> 00:49:45,218 Hey. 1065 00:49:45,251 --> 00:49:47,187 So, this is great. 1066 00:49:47,220 --> 00:49:48,421 Really? 1067 00:49:48,455 --> 00:49:49,823 Yeah. 1068 00:49:49,856 --> 00:49:51,291 I'm, like, dorking out over this family. 1069 00:49:51,324 --> 00:49:52,826 Their family's like my family. 1070 00:49:52,859 --> 00:49:54,160 Great. Great. 1071 00:49:54,194 --> 00:49:55,261 Do you have any notes? 1072 00:49:55,295 --> 00:49:56,796 Yeah. I got a couple. 1073 00:49:56,830 --> 00:49:58,310 Thought you said you loved it. 1074 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,433 You asked if I had notes, and I got notes, 1075 00:50:00,467 --> 00:50:01,935 okay, first-timer? 1076 00:50:01,968 --> 00:50:03,470 Okay. All right, all right, what do you got? 1077 00:50:03,503 --> 00:50:05,739 Okay, you're stepping on people's lines, 1078 00:50:05,772 --> 00:50:08,800 -and we need it clean, so... -Yep, yep. 1079 00:50:08,410 --> 00:50:10,343 Just like what you're doing right now. Don't do that. 1080 00:50:10,377 --> 00:50:11,745 Right. 1081 00:50:11,778 --> 00:50:13,446 Don't talk while they're talking. 1082 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,316 Just listen... or pretend to listen. 1083 00:50:16,349 --> 00:50:17,917 Okay. What else? 1084 00:50:17,951 --> 00:50:19,352 And you know what would help some people? 1085 00:50:19,386 --> 00:50:22,550 If you... if you... if you do, like, a silent laugh 1086 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:23,890 to egg them on. 1087 00:50:23,123 --> 00:50:24,991 You know, like, um... 1088 00:50:25,825 --> 00:50:27,761 Like what? I lost you. 1089 00:50:27,794 --> 00:50:29,162 Like-- No, I'm doing it. 1090 00:50:29,195 --> 00:50:30,797 Right, okay. 1091 00:50:30,830 --> 00:50:33,660 Where are you going to next, the... the rodeo? 1092 00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:34,401 Yep, my first rodeo. 1093 00:50:34,434 --> 00:50:36,360 I'm really excited. 1094 00:50:36,690 --> 00:50:37,470 Apparently, it's a real socioeconomic cross section. 1095 00:50:37,504 --> 00:50:40,807 Yeah, and horses and bulls and stuff. 1096 00:50:43,543 --> 00:50:44,744 You're doing it? 1097 00:50:44,778 --> 00:50:46,790 Yeah, could you tell? 1098 00:50:46,112 --> 00:50:47,380 Good luck. 1099 00:50:51,451 --> 00:50:53,860 All right, Ben. 1100 00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:54,487 -You're gonna love this place. -Yeah. 1101 00:50:54,521 --> 00:50:56,122 A whole lot to see, lot to take in. 1102 00:50:56,156 --> 00:50:58,792 "Fourth Annual Bull Bash Cowboy Protection." 1103 00:50:58,825 --> 00:51:01,610 Cowboy protection for, uh, bullfighting 1104 00:51:01,940 --> 00:51:03,290 -in Oyster Creek, Texas. -Cool. Excellent. 1105 00:51:03,630 --> 00:51:04,964 And, uh, you're a pitmaster. 1106 00:51:04,998 --> 00:51:05,832 Yes, sir. 1107 00:51:05,865 --> 00:51:07,100 And what is the secret to your success? 1108 00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:09,402 Time and more time. 1109 00:51:10,103 --> 00:51:13,390 --Bingo! -Ten points! 1110 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,543 Oh, hell yes! 1111 00:51:16,576 --> 00:51:17,777 -Ben, you're gonna love this. -All right. 1112 00:51:17,811 --> 00:51:18,878 Deep-fried Twinkies. 1113 00:51:18,912 --> 00:51:19,946 Ben, you gotta try one of these. 1114 00:51:19,979 --> 00:51:21,147 -Hello, beautiful. -Oh! Hi. 1115 00:51:21,181 --> 00:51:23,249 Can I get, uh, one, two, three, four, five 1116 00:51:23,283 --> 00:51:24,451 deep-fried Twinkies? 1117 00:51:24,484 --> 00:51:26,286 Uh, can we get one of those grilled? 1118 00:51:28,888 --> 00:51:29,989 It's ****ing good. 1119 00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:31,524 -****ing good. -Yeah. 1120 00:51:31,558 --> 00:51:33,326 Just keep a low profile, Ben. 1121 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,494 We'll find our man. No doubt. 1122 00:51:34,527 --> 00:51:36,129 Hundred percent. 1123 00:51:36,162 --> 00:51:38,998 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, 1124 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,101 welcome to the Holliston Rodeo. 1125 00:51:41,134 --> 00:51:45,338 We say a special hello to our sponsors, Stetson Energy, 1126 00:51:45,372 --> 00:51:48,274 McGuane Energy, Trailways Energy Company, 1127 00:51:48,308 --> 00:51:52,278 Rawson Energy, the T&B Energy Company, 1128 00:51:52,312 --> 00:51:56,316 Panhandle Energy, Andrew & Sons Hardware, 1129 00:51:56,349 --> 00:51:58,184 an Energy Corporation, 1130 00:51:58,218 --> 00:52:01,955 Anderton Energy Transport, Donahue Energy, 1131 00:52:01,988 --> 00:52:03,957 and the Quentin Sellers Music Factory, 1132 00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:08,280 making dreams come true since 2018. 1133 00:52:08,610 --> 00:52:12,320 Now, carrying the six beautiful flags of Texas, 1134 00:52:12,650 --> 00:52:14,901 welcome our beautiful riders. 1135 00:52:14,934 --> 00:52:17,370 All right, Ben. 1136 00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:18,938 The six flags of Texas 1137 00:52:18,972 --> 00:52:22,108 -are the six countries that Texas has belonged to. -Okay. 1138 00:52:22,142 --> 00:52:24,878 -Can you name all six? -Uh, the United States. 1139 00:52:24,911 --> 00:52:27,480 Uh, France, Louisiana Purchase, Spain, 1140 00:52:27,514 --> 00:52:29,516 Mexico. Uh... 1141 00:52:29,549 --> 00:52:32,385 Um, uh... Republic of Texas! 1142 00:52:32,419 --> 00:52:33,620 What's that, five? 1143 00:52:33,653 --> 00:52:35,321 Not bad, brother. Not bad. 1144 00:52:35,355 --> 00:52:37,290 Nobody ever gets five. 1145 00:52:40,930 --> 00:52:41,461 Right. 1146 00:52:41,494 --> 00:52:44,130 So Six Flags, the theme park... 1147 00:52:44,164 --> 00:52:45,598 Exactly. 1148 00:52:45,632 --> 00:52:47,634 -Is a Texas company. -Right. 1149 00:52:49,369 --> 00:52:51,710 Very interesting. 1150 00:52:51,104 --> 00:52:53,273 And now, ladies and gentlemen, 1151 00:52:53,306 --> 00:52:54,574 if you're a real Texan, 1152 00:52:54,607 --> 00:52:56,876 you know what to do when this song plays. 1153 00:53:02,515 --> 00:53:04,517 Did you really just try to Shazam 1154 00:53:04,551 --> 00:53:06,553 -"Deep in the Heart of Texas"? -Uh... 1155 00:53:06,586 --> 00:53:07,654 No. 1156 00:53:09,322 --> 00:53:11,358 Now, ladies and gentlemen, who here is a die-hard fan 1157 00:53:11,391 --> 00:53:13,493 of the University of Texas? 1158 00:53:13,526 --> 00:53:15,428 Whoo! 1159 00:53:17,263 --> 00:53:20,400 And who here is a fan of Texas Tech? 1160 00:53:25,472 --> 00:53:28,800 Okay, let's hear from both sides. 1161 00:53:28,410 --> 00:53:29,976 Can we have the UT fan come down? 1162 00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:31,244 -Good luck, buddy. -Give them hell, Ben. 1163 00:53:31,277 --> 00:53:33,179 Is this for real? Are you seriou... 1164 00:53:33,213 --> 00:53:34,981 Do you think we're joking? 1165 00:53:35,150 --> 00:53:38,510 And let's get a Texas Tech fan. 1166 00:53:48,695 --> 00:53:51,664 Okay, let's start with Mr. University of Texas. 1167 00:53:53,233 --> 00:53:54,667 Now, what's your name, son? 1168 00:53:54,701 --> 00:53:56,136 Ben Manalowitz. 1169 00:53:56,169 --> 00:53:58,271 What the whosit? 1170 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,574 And what do you do, son? 1171 00:54:01,608 --> 00:54:03,243 I'm a writer. 1172 00:54:03,276 --> 00:54:04,144 A rider? 1173 00:54:04,177 --> 00:54:05,412 You don't look like a rider. 1174 00:54:05,445 --> 00:54:06,513 What do you ride, son? 1175 00:54:06,546 --> 00:54:08,148 Huh? 1176 00:54:08,181 --> 00:54:09,683 Well, there's lots of kinds of riding. 1177 00:54:09,716 --> 00:54:12,452 You can ride horses, steer, tractors. 1178 00:54:12,485 --> 00:54:13,653 No. 1179 00:54:13,687 --> 00:54:16,322 I'm not a rider. I'm a writer. 1180 00:54:17,323 --> 00:54:19,959 I'm a writer. 1181 00:54:19,993 --> 00:54:22,595 So, like, you know, uh... 1182 00:54:22,629 --> 00:54:27,467 when... when you come across a book or a magazine... 1183 00:54:28,435 --> 00:54:32,105 ...or even an article that you read online. 1184 00:54:32,739 --> 00:54:34,307 Somebody has to... 1185 00:54:34,341 --> 00:54:37,430 has to actually think about what those words... 1186 00:54:37,770 --> 00:54:39,312 I know what a writer is, you condescending ***hole. 1187 00:54:41,781 --> 00:54:43,383 Well, tell me, Shakespeare, 1188 00:54:43,416 --> 00:54:46,586 what do you like so much about the University of Texas? 1189 00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:53,590 Well, I like that it's a state school. 1190 00:54:53,930 --> 00:54:56,620 So, it gives financial opportunities 1191 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,165 to local people who could use the help. 1192 00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:03,503 And I know that it has a very good film department. 1193 00:55:03,536 --> 00:55:05,705 Some of the graduates include, 1194 00:55:05,739 --> 00:55:07,440 I believe, Richard Linklater. 1195 00:55:07,474 --> 00:55:09,642 Uh-huh. Okay. 1196 00:55:09,676 --> 00:55:12,412 And what do you like about Texas Tech? 1197 00:55:12,445 --> 00:55:15,482 Quarterback Matt Harris! 1198 00:55:18,251 --> 00:55:19,850 Guns up! 1199 00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:20,587 Repping Tech! 1200 00:55:22,455 --> 00:55:25,910 ♪ Shake that thang, make that thang ♪ 1201 00:55:25,125 --> 00:55:27,227 ♪ Bend until you think it's gonna break that thang... ♪ 1202 00:55:27,260 --> 00:55:28,428 Don't worry about it. 1203 00:55:28,461 --> 00:55:30,397 -Nobody's thinking about it. -Yeah. 1204 00:55:30,430 --> 00:55:31,765 Erase it from your mind. 1205 00:55:31,798 --> 00:55:33,500 Enjoy. 1206 00:55:33,533 --> 00:55:35,368 ♪ When she moves that thang, grooves that thang ♪ 1207 00:55:35,402 --> 00:55:38,638 ♪ Swing to the rhythm of the groove that thang... ♪ 1208 00:55:38,672 --> 00:55:40,507 Whoo! Shake it, girls! 1209 00:55:40,540 --> 00:55:42,308 ♪ Nobody else does what she does to me ♪ 1210 00:55:42,342 --> 00:55:43,276 Not you, KC. 1211 00:55:43,309 --> 00:55:45,450 ♪ Shake that thang... ♪ 1212 00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:46,613 How do they all... 1213 00:55:46,646 --> 00:55:48,748 know how to do the same...? 1214 00:55:48,782 --> 00:55:51,184 Collective consciousness. 1215 00:55:51,217 --> 00:55:54,220 ♪ Every song is such a sight to see ♪ 1216 00:55:54,254 --> 00:55:56,256 ♪ When she moves that thang, grooves that thang ♪ 1217 00:55:56,289 --> 00:55:58,358 ♪ Swing to the rhythm of the groove that thang ♪ 1218 00:55:59,759 --> 00:56:01,394 ♪ Speaks for itself ♪ 1219 00:56:01,428 --> 00:56:04,230 ♪ Nobody else does what she does to me ♪ 1220 00:56:04,264 --> 00:56:07,467 ♪ When she shakes that thang... ♪ 1221 00:56:08,468 --> 00:56:10,360 Sancholo. 1222 00:56:14,140 --> 00:56:15,208 Whoa, whoa, whoa! 1223 00:56:15,241 --> 00:56:16,643 -You going over there? -Yeah. 1224 00:56:16,676 --> 00:56:17,677 You want my gun? 1225 00:56:17,711 --> 00:56:18,812 You brought a gun? 1226 00:56:18,845 --> 00:56:20,680 Didn't I? Phone, keys, wallet, gun. 1227 00:56:20,714 --> 00:56:22,382 -Yeah. -No. No. 1228 00:56:22,415 --> 00:56:25,218 ♪ Nobody else does what she does to me ♪ 1229 00:56:25,251 --> 00:56:27,387 ♪ When she shakes that thang ♪ 1230 00:56:27,420 --> 00:56:30,724 ♪ Swinging like an old screen door ♪ 1231 00:56:30,757 --> 00:56:34,600 ♪ Lord, she makes that thang... ♪ 1232 00:56:34,728 --> 00:56:37,330 Excuse me, are you Sancholo? 1233 00:56:38,865 --> 00:56:40,433 I was hoping to talk to you for a second. 1234 00:56:40,467 --> 00:56:41,835 You a cop? 1235 00:56:41,868 --> 00:56:43,470 Not a cop. 1236 00:56:43,503 --> 00:56:45,205 Cop don't have to say he's a cop. 1237 00:56:45,238 --> 00:56:47,273 Then why did you ask? 1238 00:56:47,307 --> 00:56:48,842 -Right? -'Cause you're wasting my time. 1239 00:56:48,875 --> 00:56:51,511 Figured I might as well waste yours. 1240 00:56:51,544 --> 00:56:52,746 Look, I'm a journalist. 1241 00:56:52,779 --> 00:56:54,514 I'm doing a story. 1242 00:56:54,547 --> 00:56:56,282 I was really only hoping to ask you a couple of questions. 1243 00:56:56,316 --> 00:56:57,851 -I'm just trying to... -Just trying to what? 1244 00:56:57,884 --> 00:56:59,519 -****ing killer! -Hey, Ty. Relax! 1245 00:56:59,552 --> 00:57:03,156 Guys, guys, guys, guys. Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. 1246 00:57:03,189 --> 00:57:06,192 Go easy on him. He just lost his sister. 1247 00:57:07,193 --> 00:57:09,129 Most beautiful girl in Texas. 1248 00:57:09,162 --> 00:57:11,131 So what I heard was that you were at the party 1249 00:57:11,164 --> 00:57:12,565 where she died. 1250 00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:14,234 Lucky me. 1251 00:57:14,267 --> 00:57:16,403 She took her last breath 1252 00:57:16,436 --> 00:57:18,238 on my shoulder. 1253 00:57:20,740 --> 00:57:22,342 My name is Ben Manalowitz. 1254 00:57:22,375 --> 00:57:24,244 I'm doing a podcast about Abilene. 1255 00:57:24,277 --> 00:57:27,380 I would love to hear your side of the story. 1256 00:57:28,248 --> 00:57:29,249 Hey. 1257 00:57:29,282 --> 00:57:31,351 We got a regular Joe Rogan here. 1258 00:57:31,384 --> 00:57:33,820 Joe Rogan meets Seth Rogen. 1259 00:57:38,658 --> 00:57:40,593 Just you. 1260 00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:18,398 When I was in middle school, 1261 00:58:18,431 --> 00:58:21,968 my mom wouldn't let me read Harry Potter 1262 00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:24,337 because of church stuff. 1263 00:58:24,371 --> 00:58:29,776 So I would call Abby every night. 1264 00:58:29,809 --> 00:58:31,778 She would read it to me. 1265 00:58:36,383 --> 00:58:38,718 I don't know what made her care about me. 1266 00:58:38,752 --> 00:58:40,253 I was like, "Why me? 1267 00:58:40,286 --> 00:58:42,822 I'm just an effing dropout drug dealer." 1268 00:58:42,856 --> 00:58:46,493 She'd say, "Heart sees heart." 1269 00:58:46,526 --> 00:58:48,395 Right. 1270 00:58:48,428 --> 00:58:49,696 She used to text that to me 1271 00:58:49,729 --> 00:58:54,501 every day on that dumbass little Razr phone. 1272 00:58:54,534 --> 00:58:55,935 -You remember those? -Yeah. 1273 00:58:55,969 --> 00:58:58,405 5-4-5. 1274 00:58:59,673 --> 00:59:01,474 Heart sees heart. 1275 00:59:01,508 --> 00:59:03,543 It was, like, her little code. 1276 00:59:06,460 --> 00:59:07,714 I miss her so much. 1277 00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:12,352 You told me that her last breath was on your shoulder. 1278 00:59:12,385 --> 00:59:13,586 And other people told me 1279 00:59:13,620 --> 00:59:15,210 that you threw the party where she died. 1280 00:59:15,550 --> 00:59:17,757 I wasn't even there. 1281 00:59:18,758 --> 00:59:20,694 Okay. 1282 00:59:20,727 --> 00:59:22,762 Where were you? 1283 00:59:28,635 --> 00:59:30,437 Look at the date. 1284 00:59:36,743 --> 00:59:37,844 Where is this? 1285 00:59:37,877 --> 00:59:40,747 Tulsa. I went to see Adele. 1286 00:59:42,415 --> 00:59:43,750 I was there with my niece. 1287 00:59:43,783 --> 00:59:45,485 She... She loves her. 1288 00:59:45,518 --> 00:59:46,586 Adele? 1289 00:59:46,619 --> 00:59:48,488 Obviously, I'm gonna have to kill you 1290 00:59:48,521 --> 00:59:49,489 if you tell anyone about that. 1291 00:59:49,522 --> 00:59:51,358 No, it's... 1292 00:59:51,958 --> 00:59:53,560 Yeah. 1293 00:59:53,593 --> 00:59:55,562 I'm a fan. 1294 00:59:57,797 --> 01:00:00,333 So... 1295 01:00:00,367 --> 01:00:01,634 you have an alibi, 1296 01:00:01,668 --> 01:00:03,970 but you want people to think you killed her? 1297 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,772 These ****ing cartels, man. 1298 01:00:05,805 --> 01:00:07,540 They're gonna control everything pretty soon. 1299 01:00:07,574 --> 01:00:10,510 -You're the cartels. -No, sir. 1300 01:00:10,543 --> 01:00:12,679 It kills me to claim her, 1301 01:00:12,712 --> 01:00:15,382 but I don't know. 1302 01:00:15,415 --> 01:00:18,510 If they don't actually think I killed someone, 1303 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,887 then I might have to kill someone... 1304 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:23,490 ...to prove myself. 1305 01:00:23,523 --> 01:00:25,580 That's not really how it works, is it? 1306 01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:26,526 It's what I heard. 1307 01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:28,610 Go on Snopes. It's not a real thing. 1308 01:00:28,940 --> 01:00:29,562 Excuse me? 1309 01:00:30,597 --> 01:00:32,932 So, let me piece this together. She OD'd... 1310 01:00:32,966 --> 01:00:34,801 The ****? This is Abby we're talking about here, okay? 1311 01:00:34,834 --> 01:00:36,603 She wouldn't touch the stuff. 1312 01:00:36,636 --> 01:00:38,571 Girl wouldn't touch an Advil. 1313 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,610 Listen, they found her two and a half miles from the party, 1314 01:00:43,643 --> 01:00:45,345 at a spot where all the deaths happen 1315 01:00:45,378 --> 01:00:46,680 called "the Afterparty." 1316 01:00:46,713 --> 01:00:49,816 You don't just wander off like that by yourself. 1317 01:00:49,849 --> 01:00:51,651 Someone takes you there. 1318 01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:54,988 This was no OD. 1319 01:00:55,210 --> 01:00:56,523 No ****ing way. 1320 01:00:58,858 --> 01:01:00,927 Who goes to these parties? 1321 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,429 Everybody. 1322 01:01:02,462 --> 01:01:04,597 -Everybody goes. Nobody went. -Yeah. 1323 01:01:05,598 --> 01:01:07,801 -Same people every time? -Yes. 1324 01:01:09,536 --> 01:01:11,371 When's the next one? 1325 01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:14,341 Whenever I want. 1326 01:01:22,782 --> 01:01:24,851 You're at 11%, bro. 1327 01:01:24,884 --> 01:01:27,387 You might want to switch to low power mode. 1328 01:01:27,987 --> 01:01:29,889 Thank you. 1329 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,571 Hello? 1330 01:01:44,604 --> 01:01:46,473 What if she was murdered? 1331 01:01:47,941 --> 01:01:49,609 What? 1332 01:01:49,642 --> 01:01:50,744 We dismissed the first theory presented 1333 01:01:50,777 --> 01:01:52,145 without even thinking about it. 1334 01:01:52,178 --> 01:01:53,913 What if we're not taking them seriously? 1335 01:01:53,947 --> 01:01:58,885 Wait, so are you saying the Mexican drug dealer did it? 1336 01:01:58,918 --> 01:02:00,153 Definitely not that. 1337 01:02:00,186 --> 01:02:01,654 But that was the first theory presented. 1338 01:02:01,688 --> 01:02:04,758 I'm just sure it wasn't that. 1339 01:02:04,791 --> 01:02:06,893 Why are you so sure? 1340 01:02:06,926 --> 01:02:08,428 Gut. 1341 01:02:08,461 --> 01:02:10,163 -Gut? -Look, 1342 01:02:10,196 --> 01:02:11,798 I know we liked what we had before. 1343 01:02:11,831 --> 01:02:14,901 Something about America and fantasy and regret 1344 01:02:14,934 --> 01:02:16,169 and the meaning of vengeance. 1345 01:02:16,202 --> 01:02:19,673 No, no. This... this is better. 1346 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,809 This just keeps getting bigger and bigger. 1347 01:02:23,777 --> 01:02:24,911 Right? 1348 01:02:24,944 --> 01:02:26,120 Okay. 1349 01:02:26,460 --> 01:02:27,781 Stay safe. 1350 01:02:27,814 --> 01:02:29,115 Get the story. 1351 01:02:29,149 --> 01:02:30,517 Not in that order. 1352 01:02:30,550 --> 01:02:32,485 No. In that order. 1353 01:03:01,214 --> 01:03:03,183 What are you watching? 1354 01:03:03,216 --> 01:03:07,587 Um, videos of Abilene. 1355 01:03:10,223 --> 01:03:12,559 Do you see my phone? 1356 01:03:13,193 --> 01:03:15,950 How it's, like, cracked. 1357 01:03:15,128 --> 01:03:16,596 Yeah. 1358 01:03:16,629 --> 01:03:19,799 It makes me look the way that I feel. 1359 01:03:21,267 --> 01:03:24,370 Um... 1360 01:03:26,606 --> 01:03:28,800 Where do I know you from? 1361 01:03:28,410 --> 01:03:29,242 Rodeo. 1362 01:03:29,275 --> 01:03:30,910 It's the Longhorns fan. 1363 01:03:30,944 --> 01:03:33,246 Indeed it is, Mike. Indeed it is. 1364 01:03:33,279 --> 01:03:35,248 Actually, that was a misunderstanding. 1365 01:03:35,281 --> 01:03:36,983 I'm sorry. I'm not even a football fan. 1366 01:03:37,170 --> 01:03:38,985 Um, I was just trying to fit in. 1367 01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:40,854 Funny way to fit in around here. 1368 01:03:40,887 --> 01:03:41,888 Point taken. 1369 01:03:41,921 --> 01:03:44,624 I didn't know there was gonna be another team. 1370 01:03:44,657 --> 01:03:46,693 I was cheering for Texas. 1371 01:03:48,762 --> 01:03:49,629 Um... 1372 01:03:49,662 --> 01:03:51,531 I'd love to ask you a couple questions 1373 01:03:51,564 --> 01:03:53,133 about the death of Abilene Shaw. 1374 01:03:53,166 --> 01:03:54,734 -OD'd. -Accident. 1375 01:03:54,768 --> 01:03:56,200 I know that was the official report. 1376 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,138 I was wondering, were you able to talk to anyone 1377 01:03:58,171 --> 01:03:59,806 who was there the night she died? 1378 01:04:00,740 --> 01:04:03,276 You ever go to a party out by the pump jacks? 1379 01:04:03,309 --> 01:04:06,613 Everybody goes and nobody was there. 1380 01:04:06,646 --> 01:04:08,810 I wasn't there. 1381 01:04:08,114 --> 01:04:09,182 I wasn't there. 1382 01:04:11,217 --> 01:04:13,820 Why are you so interested anyway? 1383 01:04:13,853 --> 01:04:16,560 You her, uh, boyfriend or something? 1384 01:04:17,570 --> 01:04:20,260 Uh, we hung out. 1385 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,895 Yeah. Yeah, I was her boyfriend. 1386 01:04:21,928 --> 01:04:24,330 Well, you know, 90% of the time it's the boyfriend who did it. 1387 01:04:24,364 --> 01:04:26,320 Okay, I wasn't... I wasn't really her boyfriend. 1388 01:04:26,660 --> 01:04:28,635 His story's starting to sound a little inconsistent. 1389 01:04:28,668 --> 01:04:30,637 Swiss cheese. 1390 01:04:30,670 --> 01:04:33,340 Yeah, um, I'm not trying to cause any problems here. 1391 01:04:33,373 --> 01:04:35,800 I'm really just trying to help the family. 1392 01:04:35,410 --> 01:04:37,310 You know, this isn't even our jurisdiction anyways. 1393 01:04:38,812 --> 01:04:40,113 Party happened outside city limits. 1394 01:04:40,146 --> 01:04:42,115 -Mm. -That's county, not city. 1395 01:04:42,148 --> 01:04:43,717 -County sheriff. -Sheriff'll talk. 1396 01:04:43,750 --> 01:04:45,850 Sheriff's a politician. 1397 01:04:45,118 --> 01:04:46,886 Ain't that a fact. 1398 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,589 I'd love to help you, son, but our policy is we can't comment 1399 01:04:49,622 --> 01:04:51,658 on our process or cases. 1400 01:04:51,691 --> 01:04:54,761 Well, I was interviewing people for a podcast 1401 01:04:54,794 --> 01:04:56,329 that could be heard by millions of people. 1402 01:04:56,363 --> 01:04:59,566 But I guess that's not a possibility. 1403 01:05:00,233 --> 01:05:01,301 These are oxy sticks. 1404 01:05:01,334 --> 01:05:02,936 See how the pills are squared off? 1405 01:05:02,969 --> 01:05:05,205 That way, they can pack 'em in boxes to the corners 1406 01:05:05,238 --> 01:05:07,340 -without wasting any space. -Mm-hmm. 1407 01:05:07,374 --> 01:05:09,209 That's how big this business is. 1408 01:05:09,242 --> 01:05:10,810 We don't know who's shipping it. 1409 01:05:10,844 --> 01:05:12,379 All we know is they're coming along the interstate 1410 01:05:12,412 --> 01:05:13,913 right along the border. 1411 01:05:13,947 --> 01:05:16,820 And that route cuts right by the oil field 1412 01:05:16,116 --> 01:05:17,684 where the party was. 1413 01:05:17,717 --> 01:05:19,185 The most common overdose spot in the county. 1414 01:05:19,219 --> 01:05:21,321 We call it "the Afterparty." 1415 01:05:21,354 --> 01:05:23,623 Very common thing, sad to say. 1416 01:05:24,691 --> 01:05:26,226 What's this right here? 1417 01:05:26,259 --> 01:05:28,962 Looks like two pairs of prints. 1418 01:05:28,995 --> 01:05:29,996 Cowboy boots. 1419 01:05:31,197 --> 01:05:33,967 Calling out an APB to find two men wearing cowboy boots. 1420 01:05:37,300 --> 01:05:38,705 -Okay. -What the ****? 1421 01:05:38,738 --> 01:05:40,840 Stand down. 1422 01:05:40,874 --> 01:05:43,209 Son, I wish you well, I really do. 1423 01:05:43,243 --> 01:05:44,711 And bless your little heart, 1424 01:05:44,744 --> 01:05:46,880 but this ain't even our jurisdiction, though. 1425 01:05:47,714 --> 01:05:48,815 -It's not? -No, sir. 1426 01:05:48,848 --> 01:05:50,717 This was along the highway. 1427 01:05:50,750 --> 01:05:52,786 You want to talk to highway patrol. 1428 01:05:53,987 --> 01:05:55,722 Well, ain't that just like a sheriff to puff his hot air 1429 01:05:55,755 --> 01:05:57,891 and blow you straight into my office. 1430 01:05:57,924 --> 01:05:59,392 If there's a drug overdose at a party 1431 01:05:59,426 --> 01:06:00,994 in some ****ing field off 29, 1432 01:06:01,270 --> 01:06:03,363 I'm sorry, but we got shit to do. 1433 01:06:03,396 --> 01:06:05,165 We're not a bunch of Army rejects 1434 01:06:05,198 --> 01:06:07,670 just gazing at the Rio Grande. 1435 01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:09,202 -I never said that you were. -I wasn't talking about us. 1436 01:06:09,235 --> 01:06:11,938 Oh, is that what they told you over at highway patrol? 1437 01:06:11,971 --> 01:06:13,840 Well, you can go tell Junior Brown 1438 01:06:13,873 --> 01:06:15,875 and the rest of them glorified meter maids 1439 01:06:15,909 --> 01:06:18,411 that if they spent more time with their real guns 1440 01:06:18,445 --> 01:06:20,146 and less with their radar guns, 1441 01:06:20,180 --> 01:06:22,916 we might not have to chase the goddamn Texas syndicate 1442 01:06:22,949 --> 01:06:24,884 up and down the Trans-Pecos! 1443 01:06:24,918 --> 01:06:25,552 Got it? 1444 01:06:25,585 --> 01:06:27,754 Yes. If I find a natural way 1445 01:06:27,787 --> 01:06:29,356 to work that into the conversation with them, 1446 01:06:29,389 --> 01:06:30,390 I will do that. 1447 01:06:30,423 --> 01:06:32,292 -DRT. -DRT. 1448 01:06:32,325 --> 01:06:34,160 -DRT. -Dead right there. 1449 01:06:34,194 --> 01:06:37,130 Law enforcement was no help at all. 1450 01:06:37,163 --> 01:06:40,433 You're learning a lot down there, aren't you? 1451 01:06:40,467 --> 01:06:42,836 The murder or overdose happened where a lot 1452 01:06:42,869 --> 01:06:44,304 of these things happen. 1453 01:06:44,337 --> 01:06:46,306 At the intersection of four overlapping jurisdictions. 1454 01:06:46,339 --> 01:06:47,807 So they all kicked it to each other. 1455 01:06:47,841 --> 01:06:49,709 What are the odds? 1456 01:06:49,743 --> 01:06:52,412 What are the odds? 1457 01:06:52,445 --> 01:06:54,180 Okay, I'm gonna kick this around 1458 01:06:54,214 --> 01:06:56,816 with the team for a little bit, shake up the Boggle board, 1459 01:06:56,850 --> 01:06:59,786 and then I'm gonna hit up Robin to get her thoughts. 1460 01:06:59,819 --> 01:07:01,788 All right. Thanks, Eloise. Thanks, everybody. 1461 01:07:01,821 --> 01:07:04,240 -Bye, Ben. -Bye, Ben. 1462 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:12,132 Um, you're probably not even gonna watch this, 1463 01:07:12,165 --> 01:07:17,904 but I'm back home in Texas, and I'm bored. 1464 01:07:17,937 --> 01:07:19,739 This is my little brother, Mason. 1465 01:07:19,773 --> 01:07:21,700 He sleeps on my floor 1466 01:07:21,410 --> 01:07:22,742 because he's afraid of ghosts. 1467 01:07:22,776 --> 01:07:24,944 And I tried to tell him 1468 01:07:24,978 --> 01:07:27,147 there's no such thing as ghosts, but whatever. 1469 01:07:27,180 --> 01:07:29,382 It keeps him close to me. 1470 01:07:30,283 --> 01:07:32,986 So I guess it's not all bad being here. 1471 01:07:34,540 --> 01:07:35,755 That's, um... 1472 01:07:35,789 --> 01:07:37,791 Well, that's it. 1473 01:07:45,131 --> 01:07:46,866 Mason. 1474 01:07:47,500 --> 01:07:49,169 Yes, sir? 1475 01:07:53,406 --> 01:07:55,408 Just saying good night. 1476 01:07:55,442 --> 01:07:59,145 You woke me up just to say good night? 1477 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,820 Yes, sir. 1478 01:08:06,252 --> 01:08:08,988 I love you mucho. 1479 01:08:10,490 --> 01:08:12,258 Collective consciousness. 1480 01:08:12,292 --> 01:08:14,494 If everyone believes the same thing... 1481 01:08:17,630 --> 01:08:18,998 ...but without any facts to support it, 1482 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,568 do we listen to that intuition or dismiss it? 1483 01:08:21,601 --> 01:08:23,169 An overdose? 1484 01:08:23,203 --> 01:08:24,904 Girl never took so much as an Advil in her life. 1485 01:08:24,938 --> 01:08:26,439 She never touched so much as an Advil. 1486 01:08:26,473 --> 01:08:28,842 You ever go to a party out by the pump jacks? 1487 01:08:28,875 --> 01:08:30,100 Everybody goes. Nobody went. 1488 01:08:30,430 --> 01:08:31,144 I wasn't there. 1489 01:08:32,912 --> 01:08:34,414 The problem is you get all these bright, 1490 01:08:34,447 --> 01:08:36,282 creative lights and nowhere to plug in their energy. 1491 01:08:36,316 --> 01:08:38,485 And so it gets channeled into conspiracy theories 1492 01:08:38,518 --> 01:08:40,153 and drugs and violence. 1493 01:08:40,186 --> 01:08:41,988 I came here to find out why people in grief 1494 01:08:42,220 --> 01:08:44,424 would choose to believe a myth. 1495 01:08:44,457 --> 01:08:46,426 I don't know shit about how this all connects, 1496 01:08:46,459 --> 01:08:47,494 but you bet your *** it does. 1497 01:08:47,527 --> 01:08:49,863 MS-13? La Línea? 1498 01:08:49,896 --> 01:08:51,898 Yeah, I'm familiar with La Línea. 1499 01:08:51,931 --> 01:08:53,933 They actually murdered 41 journalists last year. 1500 01:08:53,967 --> 01:08:55,402 Oh, they've done bad things, too. 1501 01:09:02,475 --> 01:09:04,110 But now I find myself wondering 1502 01:09:04,144 --> 01:09:07,480 how much truth might be embedded in that intuition. 1503 01:09:07,514 --> 01:09:09,315 You don't happen to know her phone password, do you? 1504 01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:11,985 Took it to every Geek Squad in the state. 1505 01:09:12,180 --> 01:09:13,353 It's impossible to crack. 1506 01:09:13,386 --> 01:09:15,121 -This ain't us. -You got the wrong department. 1507 01:09:15,155 --> 01:09:17,257 -Highway patrol. -Mike and Dan. -Border patrol. 1508 01:09:17,290 --> 01:09:18,992 -Sheriff's department. -You want county. 1509 01:09:19,250 --> 01:09:20,593 Everything's bigger in Texas, 1510 01:09:20,627 --> 01:09:24,464 including your expectations and its reality. 1511 01:09:24,497 --> 01:09:26,933 I'm your host, Ben Manalowitz, 1512 01:09:26,966 --> 01:09:28,902 and from American Radio Collective, 1513 01:09:28,935 --> 01:09:31,538 this is Abilene. 1514 01:09:31,571 --> 01:09:32,572 Hey. 1515 01:09:32,605 --> 01:09:34,541 Guess who's on the line. 1516 01:09:34,574 --> 01:09:36,760 Hey. It's Robin. 1517 01:09:36,109 --> 01:09:37,377 I produce American Moment. 1518 01:09:37,410 --> 01:09:39,379 Yeah. I-I know who you are. 1519 01:09:39,412 --> 01:09:41,147 It's-it's, um... It's great to meet you, Robin. 1520 01:09:41,181 --> 01:09:43,160 -How are you? -Great to talk to you. 1521 01:09:43,490 --> 01:09:45,352 I love what you're doing with Dead White Girl. 1522 01:09:45,385 --> 01:09:47,387 Thank you. Thank you so much. 1523 01:09:47,420 --> 01:09:49,622 Eloise pitched that we use some of the story 1524 01:09:49,656 --> 01:09:51,658 as a segment on American Moment, 1525 01:09:51,691 --> 01:09:53,560 and that would help promote your series. 1526 01:09:53,593 --> 01:09:55,628 Wow. So it'd be on American Moment. 1527 01:09:55,662 --> 01:09:57,630 Everything you're getting is great. 1528 01:09:57,664 --> 01:09:59,265 The characters are amazing. 1529 01:09:59,299 --> 01:10:01,340 Yeah. No, I mean, the characters are unbelievable. 1530 01:10:01,670 --> 01:10:02,369 Ty is just a total firecracker. 1531 01:10:02,402 --> 01:10:04,504 And Granny deserves her own show. 1532 01:10:04,537 --> 01:10:07,107 And then Abilene, I mean... 1533 01:10:07,140 --> 01:10:09,142 The more people hear her voice, 1534 01:10:09,175 --> 01:10:11,111 the more they're gonna fall in love with her. 1535 01:10:11,144 --> 01:10:13,313 So if you think you can tighten up what you have, 1536 01:10:13,346 --> 01:10:16,349 we can work it into Sunday's episode. 1537 01:10:17,317 --> 01:10:19,285 Yeah. I... Absolutely. 1538 01:10:19,319 --> 01:10:20,520 I'd love to. 1539 01:10:20,553 --> 01:10:22,322 Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I can do that. 1540 01:10:22,355 --> 01:10:24,591 Can I ask what you're eating? 1541 01:10:24,624 --> 01:10:26,426 This is, um, Frito pie. 1542 01:10:26,459 --> 01:10:27,560 It's great sound. 1543 01:10:27,594 --> 01:10:28,928 What is that? 1544 01:10:28,962 --> 01:10:30,597 Uh, Frito pie 1545 01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:32,999 is when they cut open a bag of Fritos 1546 01:10:33,330 --> 01:10:34,267 and they pour chili in it. 1547 01:10:34,300 --> 01:10:35,602 Then you eat it out of the bag with a fork. 1548 01:10:35,635 --> 01:10:36,703 Ugh. That is disgusting. 1549 01:10:36,736 --> 01:10:38,171 Yeah, in a good way. 1550 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,342 Ben, are you there? 1551 01:10:42,375 --> 01:10:45,445 Ben, did I lose you? 1552 01:10:51,685 --> 01:10:54,287 What happened to you, son? 1553 01:10:55,321 --> 01:10:57,457 My Prius exploded. 1554 01:10:57,490 --> 01:10:58,958 Mm-hmm. 1555 01:11:03,290 --> 01:11:04,631 Oh, thank heavens. Are you all right? 1556 01:11:04,664 --> 01:11:06,232 Hey. 1557 01:11:06,266 --> 01:11:07,734 -Yeah. -Oh, look at that. 1558 01:11:07,767 --> 01:11:09,302 -Oh, hey. -What happened? 1559 01:11:09,335 --> 01:11:12,105 -I'm fine. -His car blew up, Mom! 1560 01:11:12,138 --> 01:11:13,440 Oh, it's so ****ed up! This... 1561 01:11:13,473 --> 01:11:15,410 -Tyler Clayton! -Sorry. 1562 01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:16,409 We're just so grateful you're all right. 1563 01:11:16,443 --> 01:11:18,978 Oh, my God. What if you were driving a real car 1564 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,180 with gas and stuff? 1565 01:11:21,715 --> 01:11:23,183 Yeah. 1566 01:11:23,216 --> 01:11:25,485 Ben, this is a message that we're getting close. 1567 01:11:25,518 --> 01:11:29,956 Or it's kids ****ing around for no reason with Tannerite. 1568 01:11:34,494 --> 01:11:36,262 I can't believe you're all here. 1569 01:11:36,296 --> 01:11:39,132 Well, where else would we be? 1570 01:11:39,165 --> 01:11:41,501 Come on. The girls are waiting in the car. 1571 01:11:42,502 --> 01:11:44,370 Let's go. 1572 01:11:44,700 --> 01:11:45,138 -Hey, are you limping? -No. 1573 01:11:45,171 --> 01:11:46,473 You sure about that? 1574 01:11:46,506 --> 01:11:48,241 -Come on, Mama. -Yeah. His face looks all right. 1575 01:11:48,274 --> 01:11:50,310 -He's gonna be all right. -Yeah, I seen worse. 1576 01:11:50,343 --> 01:11:52,145 Come on, buddy. 1577 01:11:52,178 --> 01:11:53,646 -How is everything? -So good. 1578 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,215 This is our friend Ben. 1579 01:11:55,248 --> 01:11:57,484 And this is his first time at Whataburger. 1580 01:11:59,786 --> 01:12:01,354 -Let's have a toast. -Thank you. 1581 01:12:01,388 --> 01:12:03,890 -To Ben. -Come on, to Ben. -To Ben. 1582 01:12:03,123 --> 01:12:04,224 -Whataburger, Whataburger. -To a good milkshake. 1583 01:12:04,257 --> 01:12:05,525 -Whoopah. -Over there. 1584 01:12:05,558 --> 01:12:06,559 Thanks. 1585 01:12:07,627 --> 01:12:10,730 Well, what do you think? 1586 01:12:10,764 --> 01:12:12,499 I love this. 1587 01:12:12,532 --> 01:12:13,800 You do? 1588 01:12:13,833 --> 01:12:17,504 And it's always right there. 1589 01:12:23,176 --> 01:12:25,345 -Excuse me, Mama. -Ooh. 1590 01:12:25,378 --> 01:12:27,470 Mm. 1591 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,615 It's a Texas thing. 1592 01:12:28,648 --> 01:12:30,283 You're not supposed to do it, but you're supposed to do it. 1593 01:12:30,316 --> 01:12:32,385 You're supposed to take your lucky number, 1594 01:12:32,419 --> 01:12:34,654 but we figure every number's lucky to somebody, 1595 01:12:34,688 --> 01:12:36,256 so we take all of 'em. 1596 01:12:36,289 --> 01:12:37,757 I won't tell Mike and Dan. 1597 01:12:37,791 --> 01:12:39,590 Like they'd do anything. 1598 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:40,560 They'd say it was an accident. 1599 01:12:41,828 --> 01:12:43,296 Party tonight. 1600 01:12:43,329 --> 01:12:45,532 -Oh, what's the dress code? -Ugh. 1601 01:12:45,565 --> 01:12:47,500 Broncos and buckle bunnies. 1602 01:12:47,534 --> 01:12:49,202 Ugh. You know, they're seriously phoning it in 1603 01:12:49,235 --> 01:12:50,570 with the themes nowadays. 1604 01:12:50,603 --> 01:12:51,805 You want to come tonight? 1605 01:12:51,838 --> 01:12:52,806 You can borrow something from my closet. 1606 01:12:52,839 --> 01:12:54,341 You're okay to go? 1607 01:12:54,374 --> 01:12:57,110 It doesn't stir up too many feelings for you? 1608 01:12:58,812 --> 01:13:00,714 You gotta keep living life. 1609 01:13:00,747 --> 01:13:02,349 Like Catherine the Great said, 1610 01:13:02,382 --> 01:13:04,584 "You gotta get right back under the horse." 1611 01:13:05,452 --> 01:13:07,387 Tyler Clayton. -What? 1612 01:13:07,420 --> 01:13:10,824 I-I listened to that history podcast you recommended. 1613 01:13:10,857 --> 01:13:12,292 I've got a question for you. 1614 01:13:12,325 --> 01:13:14,694 Have you got family in Texas? 1615 01:13:14,728 --> 01:13:16,329 No. 1616 01:13:16,363 --> 01:13:18,164 You do now. 1617 01:13:18,198 --> 01:13:20,233 -Isn't that right, everybody? -Yes, ma'am. 1618 01:13:20,266 --> 01:13:22,736 Careful what you wish for, Ben. 1619 01:13:26,606 --> 01:13:28,308 One second. 1620 01:13:28,341 --> 01:13:30,110 Who's got a honey thing over there? 1621 01:13:30,143 --> 01:13:32,645 -Um, I got some right here. -Anybody? Mmm, mmm, mmm. 1622 01:13:32,679 --> 01:13:35,181 -Hey. What's up? -Hey. 1623 01:13:35,215 --> 01:13:36,583 Your car blew up? 1624 01:13:36,616 --> 01:13:38,318 Are you okay? 1625 01:13:38,351 --> 01:13:39,386 Yeah. Yes. 1626 01:13:39,419 --> 01:13:41,855 I mean, I wish I got that extra rental insurance 1627 01:13:41,888 --> 01:13:44,124 that no one ever gets, but I'm fine. 1628 01:13:44,157 --> 01:13:45,892 Good. Well, listen, I finished it, 1629 01:13:45,925 --> 01:13:47,293 and everyone loves it. 1630 01:13:47,327 --> 01:13:48,862 Thanks. What do you mean "finished it"? 1631 01:13:48,895 --> 01:13:50,463 You're clearly in danger, 1632 01:13:50,497 --> 01:13:53,333 and you've already got everything you need. 1633 01:13:53,366 --> 01:13:56,736 Well, I didn't solve the murder. 1634 01:13:56,770 --> 01:13:58,505 It's better this way. 1635 01:13:58,538 --> 01:14:01,541 You know, an ambiguous ending without resolution. 1636 01:14:01,574 --> 01:14:05,812 That's... that's the secret weapon with a story like this. 1637 01:14:05,845 --> 01:14:07,180 It gnaws at you. 1638 01:14:07,213 --> 01:14:09,816 It haunts you forever. 1639 01:14:09,849 --> 01:14:11,217 You never let it go. 1640 01:14:11,251 --> 01:14:12,352 No, there's more to it, Eloise. 1641 01:14:12,385 --> 01:14:13,620 I-I'm getting so close. 1642 01:14:13,653 --> 01:14:15,355 As much as we'd love to see you 1643 01:14:15,388 --> 01:14:17,357 -blown up for a story... -No, no. 1644 01:14:17,390 --> 01:14:18,892 ...my conscience tells me 1645 01:14:18,925 --> 01:14:20,827 I have to choose a person over a story. 1646 01:14:20,860 --> 01:14:22,562 No. 1647 01:14:22,595 --> 01:14:23,663 No, no. 1648 01:14:23,697 --> 01:14:27,367 Otherwise, it would take, like, two years of therapy 1649 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,769 to justify it, and... 1650 01:14:29,803 --> 01:14:32,205 I can't afford that on my plan. 1651 01:14:32,238 --> 01:14:34,674 Look, you're gonna be huge from this. 1652 01:14:34,708 --> 01:14:35,842 Okay? 1653 01:14:35,875 --> 01:14:36,910 Come home. 1654 01:14:41,481 --> 01:14:43,650 -You remember? -Hey, you. 1655 01:14:43,683 --> 01:14:45,418 Hey. Sorry about that. 1656 01:14:45,452 --> 01:14:46,920 Who was that? 1657 01:14:46,953 --> 01:14:48,922 Friend. 1658 01:14:48,955 --> 01:14:50,657 Was it Equinox Girl Cute? 1659 01:14:50,690 --> 01:14:52,459 Or was it Natalie Bumble? 1660 01:14:52,492 --> 01:14:54,394 Uh, it was, uh, my podcast producer. 1661 01:14:54,427 --> 01:14:57,397 Uh, and everything's on track. 1662 01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:58,932 You're very sweet to ask. 1663 01:14:58,965 --> 01:15:00,867 I love you mucho. 1664 01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:03,370 We're so lucky you found Abilene. 1665 01:15:04,304 --> 01:15:06,740 I really don't know what she saw in me. 1666 01:15:06,773 --> 01:15:07,941 I do. 1667 01:15:07,974 --> 01:15:10,310 I get it. I totally get it. 1668 01:15:11,244 --> 01:15:13,213 -Heart sees heart. -Oh. 1669 01:15:14,140 --> 01:15:18,718 You know, when I came down here to spend time with Abby's... 1670 01:15:18,752 --> 01:15:20,286 "Crazy Texan family," right? 1671 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:21,621 Yeah. 1672 01:15:21,654 --> 01:15:25,692 Uh, I never thought it would be like this. 1673 01:15:25,725 --> 01:15:27,427 People can surprise you. 1674 01:15:27,460 --> 01:15:28,828 Yeah. 1675 01:15:28,862 --> 01:15:30,296 Like Abilene. 1676 01:15:30,330 --> 01:15:31,731 I mean, she was full of surprises. 1677 01:15:31,765 --> 01:15:33,366 -Like Abilene. -Mm-hmm. 1678 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,836 Great reputation, but a huge pill-popper. 1679 01:15:41,908 --> 01:15:43,843 What? 1680 01:15:43,877 --> 01:15:45,378 What'd you just say? 1681 01:15:45,412 --> 01:15:47,714 Mm. Put that in your podcast, maybe. 1682 01:15:47,747 --> 01:15:49,150 Where'd you hear that? 1683 01:15:49,490 --> 01:15:51,284 The girls told me. 1684 01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:59,459 Ty told us not to say anything. 1685 01:16:13,340 --> 01:16:15,508 Are you ****ing serious? 1686 01:16:16,409 --> 01:16:19,120 I thought you wouldn't do this with me 1687 01:16:19,450 --> 01:16:20,747 if you knew that she was using. 1688 01:16:20,780 --> 01:16:22,415 You think? 1689 01:16:22,449 --> 01:16:23,683 Drugs was something Abilene did. 1690 01:16:23,717 --> 01:16:24,951 It's not who she was. 1691 01:16:24,984 --> 01:16:26,419 But it is how she died, 1692 01:16:26,453 --> 01:16:28,521 which is what we were investigating. 1693 01:16:28,555 --> 01:16:29,923 I thought there was more to this. 1694 01:16:29,956 --> 01:16:31,424 I thought that you and I would get to know each other, 1695 01:16:31,458 --> 01:16:32,726 and that would be cool. 1696 01:16:32,759 --> 01:16:35,280 I... Maybe it was part of the grieving process. 1697 01:16:35,610 --> 01:16:36,629 Denial? 1698 01:16:36,663 --> 01:16:38,698 Isn't that one of the 12 steps of grief? 1699 01:16:38,732 --> 01:16:41,340 It's five stages of grief, 12 steps to recovery, 1700 01:16:41,670 --> 01:16:42,802 but I understand that everyone here 1701 01:16:42,836 --> 01:16:43,937 is more familiar with the latter. 1702 01:16:43,970 --> 01:16:45,305 It's complicated. 1703 01:16:45,338 --> 01:16:46,673 It's not. It's actually very simple. 1704 01:16:46,706 --> 01:16:49,943 Everything here is actually really simple, 1705 01:16:49,976 --> 01:16:51,845 and maybe that's why it took me so long 1706 01:16:51,878 --> 01:16:53,413 to understand it. 1707 01:16:54,681 --> 01:16:55,982 Well, I was following my heart, 1708 01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:57,784 and that's what we do around here. 1709 01:16:57,817 --> 01:16:59,686 You follow your heart. 1710 01:16:59,719 --> 01:17:01,287 Yeah. 1711 01:17:01,988 --> 01:17:03,923 Well, maybe it's time to look around 1712 01:17:03,957 --> 01:17:06,960 and ask yourselves how that's working out for you. 1713 01:17:06,993 --> 01:17:10,397 Maybe you should try following your brain for a change. 1714 01:17:10,430 --> 01:17:12,665 Because when you follow your heart, 1715 01:17:12,699 --> 01:17:14,334 the Earth is flat, 1716 01:17:14,367 --> 01:17:15,935 climate change is a hoax, 1717 01:17:15,969 --> 01:17:18,805 vaccines contain microchips, 1718 01:17:18,838 --> 01:17:22,409 and Mexican drug dealers killed your sister. 1719 01:17:22,442 --> 01:17:25,545 You invent these insane ****ing narratives 1720 01:17:25,578 --> 01:17:27,814 to explain why your lives are such shit shows 1721 01:17:27,847 --> 01:17:30,750 because the truth is too scary for you to face, 1722 01:17:30,784 --> 01:17:33,553 which is that you did it to yourselves. 1723 01:17:33,586 --> 01:17:36,389 Do you know what people say about you guys where I'm from? 1724 01:17:36,423 --> 01:17:38,958 -Let me guess. Bad things. -No. Worse. 1725 01:17:38,992 --> 01:17:40,927 We say good things. 1726 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,128 "We took them seriously 1727 01:17:42,162 --> 01:17:43,363 when we should've taken them literally." 1728 01:17:43,396 --> 01:17:44,531 You're neither. 1729 01:17:44,564 --> 01:17:46,990 You're not serious people. 1730 01:17:46,132 --> 01:17:48,435 And maybe it's time for you all 1731 01:17:48,468 --> 01:17:50,470 to take us seriously and literally 1732 01:17:50,503 --> 01:17:53,540 because where I'm from is fun and interesting. 1733 01:17:53,573 --> 01:17:56,509 And the people are rich and diverse, 1734 01:17:56,543 --> 01:18:01,448 and, meanwhile, your town looks like this! 1735 01:18:01,481 --> 01:18:02,882 Bless your heart. 1736 01:18:02,916 --> 01:18:04,840 Oh, and I know what that means. 1737 01:18:04,117 --> 01:18:06,152 So you know what? Bless your heart. 1738 01:18:06,186 --> 01:18:08,755 Bless your heart. Bless all your hearts. 1739 01:18:08,788 --> 01:18:10,857 All your hearts can go bless themselves. 1740 01:18:10,890 --> 01:18:13,126 Who are you to talk to us? 1741 01:18:13,159 --> 01:18:16,830 I had to drag you to her ****ing funeral! 1742 01:18:19,132 --> 01:18:22,669 Who are you? 1743 01:18:22,702 --> 01:18:24,738 If your car would've blown up in Brooklyn, 1744 01:18:24,771 --> 01:18:29,609 would anyone-- anyone come to help you? 1745 01:18:29,642 --> 01:18:31,978 First of all, I wouldn't have needed a car in Brooklyn. 1746 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,150 Second, if I had one, I doubt it would've been blown up 1747 01:18:35,480 --> 01:18:37,517 by God knows who. 1748 01:18:37,550 --> 01:18:39,552 I don't understand you people. 1749 01:18:39,586 --> 01:18:41,521 "You people" is a microaggression. 1750 01:18:41,554 --> 01:18:43,456 My apologies. Y'all. 1751 01:18:43,490 --> 01:18:45,792 "Y'all" is a cultural appropriation. 1752 01:18:45,825 --> 01:18:47,794 Paris... 1753 01:18:47,827 --> 01:18:51,131 you accusing someone of cultural appropriation 1754 01:18:51,164 --> 01:18:53,133 is cultural appropriation. 1755 01:18:53,166 --> 01:18:56,360 Why wouldn't you look after her? 1756 01:18:56,690 --> 01:18:57,904 Check in on her? 1757 01:18:57,937 --> 01:19:00,440 You wouldn't do anything for her, would you? 1758 01:19:00,473 --> 01:19:02,676 That's right. I wouldn't. 1759 01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:05,211 I was hooking up with different people, 1760 01:19:05,245 --> 01:19:07,647 and I assumed she was, too, 1761 01:19:07,681 --> 01:19:10,950 because I live in the real world, 1762 01:19:10,984 --> 01:19:13,687 and that's what everybody does. 1763 01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,489 I tried to tell you this when you called. 1764 01:19:16,523 --> 01:19:18,458 She wasn't my girlfriend. 1765 01:19:18,491 --> 01:19:21,594 She was just a girl in my phone. 1766 01:19:29,602 --> 01:19:31,705 Now you've been in a fight. 1767 01:19:44,718 --> 01:19:46,720 I don't know the whole story... 1768 01:19:48,121 --> 01:19:49,856 ...but life is complicated. 1769 01:19:49,889 --> 01:19:52,859 Even around here, if you can believe that. 1770 01:19:54,127 --> 01:19:55,995 I'll tell you what I think. 1771 01:19:57,263 --> 01:20:00,667 I think people don't do drugs for no reason. 1772 01:20:00,700 --> 01:20:02,969 They do drugs because they're in pain. 1773 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,838 Pain like... 1774 01:20:04,871 --> 01:20:07,874 like maybe caring for someone who hardly knows your name. 1775 01:20:09,275 --> 01:20:11,611 So, I don't know, Ben. 1776 01:20:11,644 --> 01:20:13,980 But if you're still looking for someone to blame 1777 01:20:14,140 --> 01:20:16,583 for what happened... 1778 01:20:16,616 --> 01:20:19,886 you may not have needed to come all this way. 1779 01:20:23,923 --> 01:20:25,859 Bless your heart. 1780 01:21:28,822 --> 01:21:30,890 You were right, Eloise. 1781 01:21:30,924 --> 01:21:33,660 I was the story. 1782 01:21:34,294 --> 01:21:36,229 A self-absorbed know-it-all 1783 01:21:36,262 --> 01:21:40,900 thinks he's gonna figure out the meaning of America, 1784 01:21:40,934 --> 01:21:44,571 and all he learns is how empty he is. 1785 01:21:46,406 --> 01:21:48,975 I was the one living a myth. 1786 01:21:51,678 --> 01:21:54,848 They say you regret the things you don't do. 1787 01:21:56,249 --> 01:21:58,618 I didn't love. 1788 01:22:01,721 --> 01:22:04,224 I have no story. 1789 01:22:04,257 --> 01:22:06,893 I guess that's the story. 1790 01:22:06,926 --> 01:22:10,630 I am the story, and the story sucks. 1791 01:22:10,663 --> 01:22:13,666 The story is nothing. 1792 01:22:14,300 --> 01:22:16,836 I'm coming home. 1793 01:22:21,141 --> 01:22:23,243 I'm scared. 1794 01:22:23,276 --> 01:22:25,211 What are you scared of? 1795 01:22:25,245 --> 01:22:27,147 Ghosts. 1796 01:22:27,180 --> 01:22:29,490 Ghosts aren't real. 1797 01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:32,819 If they're not real, how come everyone knows what they are? 1798 01:22:32,852 --> 01:22:36,756 They're real as an idea, but they're not real, real. 1799 01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:40,694 That's what's scary about ghosts, that they aren't real. 1800 01:22:40,727 --> 01:22:41,995 If ghosts were real, 1801 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:43,863 they wouldn't be scary at all, right? 1802 01:22:43,897 --> 01:22:47,333 We would just smile and say, "Hi, ghosts." 1803 01:22:47,367 --> 01:22:48,735 Hi, ghosts. 1804 01:22:50,136 --> 01:22:51,938 Hi, ghost. 1805 01:22:52,906 --> 01:22:55,800 Wouldn't that be cool? 1806 01:22:55,410 --> 01:22:56,876 If when someone wasn't there anymore, 1807 01:22:56,910 --> 01:22:59,679 there was still a little piece of them 1808 01:22:59,713 --> 01:23:02,282 that could surprise you sometimes? 1809 01:23:02,315 --> 01:23:04,417 Yeah. 1810 01:23:04,451 --> 01:23:07,420 But there's not, there's nothing. 1811 01:23:07,454 --> 01:23:09,789 And that's what's scary about ghosts. 1812 01:23:09,823 --> 01:23:14,160 That the little piece of someone 1813 01:23:14,194 --> 01:23:17,163 that feels like it might still be there 1814 01:23:17,197 --> 01:23:19,666 isn't there at all. 1815 01:23:23,203 --> 01:23:24,904 Do you feel better? 1816 01:23:24,938 --> 01:23:26,906 No. 1817 01:23:27,507 --> 01:23:29,843 Me neither. 1818 01:23:33,413 --> 01:23:35,215 Thanks for listening. 1819 01:23:37,751 --> 01:23:40,687 I'm leaving tomorrow, Mason. 1820 01:23:41,388 --> 01:23:43,223 I love you mucho. 1821 01:23:43,256 --> 01:23:45,225 1-4-3-5. 1822 01:23:45,258 --> 01:23:46,926 What? 1823 01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:47,727 1-4-3-5. 1824 01:23:47,761 --> 01:23:50,630 It's what Abby used to say to me. 1825 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,266 She used to say, "I love you mucho," 1826 01:23:53,299 --> 01:23:54,467 but then she shortened it. 1827 01:23:54,501 --> 01:23:56,736 So it was kind of like a secret code 1828 01:23:56,770 --> 01:23:57,937 'cause that's the number of letters 1829 01:23:57,971 --> 01:23:59,973 in "I love you mucho." 1830 01:24:00,807 --> 01:24:03,309 1-4-3-5. 1831 01:25:31,464 --> 01:25:33,900 Hello? 1832 01:25:33,933 --> 01:25:35,368 This is beautiful. 1833 01:25:35,402 --> 01:25:37,370 What is? 1834 01:25:37,637 --> 01:25:39,205 What you just recorded. 1835 01:25:39,239 --> 01:25:41,341 Your concluding piece. 1836 01:25:41,374 --> 01:25:43,943 It's what we talked about from the beginning. 1837 01:25:43,977 --> 01:25:46,813 It's disconnection, myth... 1838 01:25:47,547 --> 01:25:50,817 Uh, stories are always personal, but... 1839 01:25:52,218 --> 01:25:54,540 ...this is you. 1840 01:25:54,988 --> 01:25:57,570 You know, it's so you. 1841 01:25:57,900 --> 01:26:00,600 It's kind of... everyone. 1842 01:26:00,930 --> 01:26:02,620 You didn't lock that yet, did you? 1843 01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:03,596 No, not till the morning. 1844 01:26:03,630 --> 01:26:05,231 It's on the server if you want to check it out. 1845 01:26:05,265 --> 01:26:07,333 Great, great. Uh, just-just don't touch it tonight. 1846 01:26:07,367 --> 01:26:09,969 There's, uh... It's not 100%. 1847 01:26:10,300 --> 01:26:12,205 There's a tiny piece I'm gonna add. 1848 01:26:12,238 --> 01:26:14,908 No, don't touch it. It's great. 1849 01:26:14,941 --> 01:26:16,409 You're only gonna **** it up. Don't. 1850 01:26:18,578 --> 01:26:20,280 Where are you right now? 1851 01:26:20,313 --> 01:26:22,315 Uh, I'm in an Uber. 1852 01:26:23,116 --> 01:26:26,353 Well, anyway, good job. 1853 01:26:26,386 --> 01:26:29,356 People are gonna love this. 1854 01:26:29,389 --> 01:26:31,458 I didn't know you had it in you. 1855 01:26:31,491 --> 01:26:33,493 Or maybe I did. 1856 01:26:33,526 --> 01:26:35,595 Heart sees heart, right? 1857 01:26:35,628 --> 01:26:37,263 Okay, all right. 1858 01:26:37,297 --> 01:26:39,899 All right, just wait till the morning, okay? Okay, bye. 1859 01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:53,380 ♪ I won't be your chosen one ♪ 1860 01:26:53,413 --> 01:26:55,548 ♪ I'll just be your fire ♪ 1861 01:26:55,582 --> 01:26:57,617 ♪ I won't be your favored son ♪ 1862 01:26:57,650 --> 01:26:59,919 ♪ I'll just be what you desire ♪ 1863 01:26:59,953 --> 01:27:02,220 ♪ I won't be your superman ♪ 1864 01:27:02,550 --> 01:27:04,157 ♪ But I'll be your fear ♪ 1865 01:27:04,190 --> 01:27:06,259 ♪ I won't be your promised land ♪ 1866 01:27:06,292 --> 01:27:08,261 ♪ I'll just be the voice you hear ♪ 1867 01:27:08,294 --> 01:27:11,998 ♪ Ooh, shot, better run and hide ♪ 1868 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:16,936 ♪ Ooh, shot, got an evil eye... ♪ 1869 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,140 -Don't go anywhere. -Yes, sir. 1870 01:27:20,173 --> 01:27:25,412 ♪ 'Cause, ooh, shot, got an evil eye, yeah ♪ 1871 01:27:34,154 --> 01:27:36,723 Look at him! 1872 01:27:43,163 --> 01:27:45,965 **** yeah. Texas Tech fireworks, *****. 1873 01:27:45,999 --> 01:27:47,634 Red and black, baby. 1874 01:27:47,667 --> 01:27:49,302 Are you shitting me? 1875 01:27:49,335 --> 01:27:51,671 I told you black fireworks ain't gonna show, you jackass. 1876 01:27:51,705 --> 01:27:53,306 I can see 'em. 1877 01:27:53,340 --> 01:27:54,474 Oh. Hey. 1878 01:27:54,507 --> 01:27:56,576 It's the Longhorns fan. 1879 01:27:56,609 --> 01:27:58,578 How's your car, man? 1880 01:27:58,611 --> 01:28:00,180 You like what we did to it? 1881 01:28:00,213 --> 01:28:02,215 That was about football? 1882 01:28:02,248 --> 01:28:03,583 Jesus Christ. 1883 01:28:09,550 --> 01:28:10,724 What the **** are you doing here? 1884 01:28:10,757 --> 01:28:12,592 I got an invite. 1885 01:28:12,625 --> 01:28:13,993 -Oh, you're wearing my shit. -Yeah. 1886 01:28:14,270 --> 01:28:15,261 What the ****? 1887 01:28:15,295 --> 01:28:17,297 Okay, well, it's his hat, so... 1888 01:28:19,399 --> 01:28:20,567 You better be careful. 1889 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:21,768 That's a loaded gun. 1890 01:28:21,801 --> 01:28:23,236 You keep your gun loaded? 1891 01:28:23,269 --> 01:28:25,138 You keep your phone charged? 1892 01:28:25,171 --> 01:28:27,173 -How'd you even get here? -Mason drove me. 1893 01:28:27,207 --> 01:28:29,209 Who in the **** is Mason? 1894 01:28:29,242 --> 01:28:30,610 Mason's your ****ing brother. 1895 01:28:30,643 --> 01:28:32,579 I'd watch your back. 1896 01:28:32,612 --> 01:28:34,314 You don't have friends here. 1897 01:28:34,347 --> 01:28:36,349 Look who it is. 1898 01:28:37,484 --> 01:28:38,752 Look who it is. 1899 01:28:38,785 --> 01:28:40,653 -My friend. -Look at you, bud. 1900 01:28:40,687 --> 01:28:42,555 How you doing? 1901 01:28:42,589 --> 01:28:44,491 How's that podcast coming? 1902 01:28:44,524 --> 01:28:46,393 I sent it in last night. 1903 01:28:47,727 --> 01:28:49,362 You're still here? 1904 01:28:49,396 --> 01:28:51,364 Still here. 1905 01:28:54,134 --> 01:28:56,603 Texas has a pull, doesn't it? 1906 01:28:57,637 --> 01:28:59,305 Kinda gets under your skin. 1907 01:28:59,339 --> 01:29:01,174 Hundred percent. 1908 01:29:01,207 --> 01:29:03,743 Why don't you turn that thing on? 1909 01:29:03,777 --> 01:29:05,578 Got a story for you. 1910 01:29:05,612 --> 01:29:07,580 Fellas. 1911 01:29:12,385 --> 01:29:17,757 First drug law in the United States passed in 1875. 1912 01:29:17,791 --> 01:29:19,159 The Chinese rail workers 1913 01:29:19,192 --> 01:29:21,127 -brought in the opium den. -Mm. 1914 01:29:21,161 --> 01:29:25,131 And this country was so anti-immigrant 1915 01:29:25,165 --> 01:29:28,401 that they banned the opium den. 1916 01:29:29,202 --> 01:29:30,737 -Not the opium. -Hmm. 1917 01:29:30,770 --> 01:29:32,272 Right? 1918 01:29:32,305 --> 01:29:34,274 You ever hear anything more American than that? 1919 01:29:34,307 --> 01:29:36,276 I mean, now we got an opium epidemic 1920 01:29:36,309 --> 01:29:38,211 breaking out across the heartland 1921 01:29:38,244 --> 01:29:41,548 with all the ceremony, majesty, glamour 1922 01:29:41,581 --> 01:29:42,749 and fun's removed. 1923 01:29:42,782 --> 01:29:45,850 And-and that's what people yearn for. 1924 01:29:45,118 --> 01:29:47,420 You see what I'm saying? 1925 01:29:48,555 --> 01:29:51,591 Do you think Gary Webb would've won a Pulitzer today? 1926 01:29:53,193 --> 01:29:56,162 You know, I think you were smart for staying here. 1927 01:29:56,196 --> 01:29:58,331 -Yeah? -Yeah. 1928 01:29:58,365 --> 01:30:02,736 That story about Abilene, it's nice. 1929 01:30:03,703 --> 01:30:07,107 I think you were meant to tell a bigger story. 1930 01:30:07,140 --> 01:30:10,310 Ask yourself, what part of the country today 1931 01:30:10,343 --> 01:30:12,846 is it in certain people's interest 1932 01:30:12,879 --> 01:30:15,582 to keep devastated, demoralized, 1933 01:30:15,615 --> 01:30:18,318 dependent and divided? 1934 01:30:18,351 --> 01:30:20,153 You got the opioid crisis, 1935 01:30:20,186 --> 01:30:22,555 nation in divide, civic unrest. 1936 01:30:22,589 --> 01:30:26,159 Why are all these things happening at the same time? 1937 01:30:26,192 --> 01:30:28,461 What do you really think is going on here? 1938 01:30:32,332 --> 01:30:35,135 Told you I had a story for you. 1939 01:30:44,277 --> 01:30:45,745 So what are you saying? 1940 01:30:45,779 --> 01:30:47,180 That it all connects? 1941 01:30:47,213 --> 01:30:50,316 That the conspiracy theories are true? 1942 01:30:50,350 --> 01:30:52,218 What I'm saying is 1943 01:30:52,252 --> 01:30:55,755 people can sense the truth, 1944 01:30:55,789 --> 01:30:58,358 but they're grasping for the facts. 1945 01:30:58,391 --> 01:31:02,262 See, a myth is just a truth without facts. 1946 01:31:02,295 --> 01:31:04,631 That's why it comes out all abstract, gnarled, 1947 01:31:04,664 --> 01:31:06,399 wrong. 1948 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:08,535 Easy to dismiss and ridicule. 1949 01:31:08,568 --> 01:31:10,804 Nobody listens to them 1950 01:31:10,837 --> 01:31:13,506 because they don't have the facts. 1951 01:31:15,208 --> 01:31:16,810 But I do. 1952 01:31:16,843 --> 01:31:17,911 And you, Ben... 1953 01:31:17,944 --> 01:31:19,612 Yeah. 1954 01:31:21,281 --> 01:31:23,750 ...the whole damn world will listen to you. 1955 01:31:30,957 --> 01:31:32,659 Where are they going? 1956 01:31:32,692 --> 01:31:34,527 Afterparty. 1957 01:31:35,962 --> 01:31:37,530 The Afterparty. 1958 01:31:37,564 --> 01:31:39,366 Tell me about that. 1959 01:31:39,399 --> 01:31:42,669 I mean, people overdose a hundred times a day, Ben. 1960 01:31:42,702 --> 01:31:44,304 That's a fact. 1961 01:31:44,337 --> 01:31:45,672 But they can't do it in a place where it's gonna be 1962 01:31:45,705 --> 01:31:48,308 a problem for people like you and I. Hmm? 1963 01:31:49,709 --> 01:31:51,711 That's what happened to Abilene. 1964 01:31:53,446 --> 01:31:54,981 Abilene? 1965 01:31:55,150 --> 01:31:58,685 I mean, she died at a party like this. 1966 01:32:00,453 --> 01:32:02,322 I thought you finished that story. 1967 01:32:02,355 --> 01:32:04,224 Oh. 1968 01:32:04,257 --> 01:32:06,393 This is just for us. 1969 01:32:06,426 --> 01:32:08,995 Well, it's not a very good story anyway. 1970 01:32:09,290 --> 01:32:11,231 Oh, she was a drug addict. 1971 01:32:11,264 --> 01:32:12,866 She OD'd. 1972 01:32:12,899 --> 01:32:15,602 Then she tried to call 911. 1973 01:32:16,469 --> 01:32:19,606 Oh. In Texas, we don't call 911. 1974 01:32:19,639 --> 01:32:21,608 Yeah, I've heard that. 1975 01:32:22,475 --> 01:32:24,611 They record all those calls. 1976 01:32:24,644 --> 01:32:27,781 We gotta be very careful about what gets recorded. 1977 01:32:27,814 --> 01:32:29,716 Yeah. You do. 1978 01:32:29,749 --> 01:32:32,686 It's all that's left of us. 1979 01:32:32,719 --> 01:32:34,320 The recordings. 1980 01:32:35,210 --> 01:32:38,324 And people like you and I, Abilene, 1981 01:32:38,358 --> 01:32:42,829 everybody posting photos of every part of their day, 1982 01:32:42,862 --> 01:32:46,666 we trade in our entire lives 1983 01:32:46,700 --> 01:32:50,670 for the tiny pieces that get recorded of us. 1984 01:32:52,972 --> 01:32:54,474 Abilene tried to call 911. 1985 01:32:54,507 --> 01:32:56,343 You didn't let her. Then what? 1986 01:32:59,790 --> 01:33:00,480 Oh, boy. 1987 01:33:00,513 --> 01:33:02,549 Don't get distracted. 1988 01:33:02,582 --> 01:33:04,884 You gotta admit, that's a hell of a distraction. 1989 01:33:04,918 --> 01:33:07,654 That is... That's kind of like 1990 01:33:07,687 --> 01:33:09,356 the very definition of distraction. 1991 01:33:09,389 --> 01:33:11,925 -Abilene. -♪ Abilene. ♪ 1992 01:33:11,958 --> 01:33:14,894 -Abilene. -♪ Abilene. ♪ 1993 01:33:14,928 --> 01:33:16,730 What happened to Abilene? 1994 01:33:17,530 --> 01:33:19,566 Do you believe in ghosts, Ben? 1995 01:33:19,599 --> 01:33:22,635 I got a call from a ghost earlier. 1996 01:33:24,300 --> 01:33:26,873 Kind of thought I'd be seeing you today. 1997 01:33:29,342 --> 01:33:31,440 What happened to her? 1998 01:33:31,770 --> 01:33:33,279 Why do you care so much? 1999 01:33:34,814 --> 01:33:37,717 Why do you care so little? 2000 01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,922 She overdosed. 2001 01:33:42,956 --> 01:33:44,391 Instead of helping her, 2002 01:33:44,424 --> 01:33:47,600 you dragged her to the Afterparty, 2003 01:33:47,930 --> 01:33:48,461 which is a spot with no cell reception 2004 01:33:48,495 --> 01:33:49,662 at the exact intersection 2005 01:33:49,696 --> 01:33:52,699 of four overlapping law jurisdictions 2006 01:33:52,732 --> 01:33:54,670 where you knew her death 2007 01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:57,804 would just become an anonymous statistic. 2008 01:33:57,837 --> 01:34:00,473 Hmm. 2009 01:34:04,978 --> 01:34:06,813 It's well said. 2010 01:34:06,846 --> 01:34:08,314 Very succinct. 2011 01:34:11,584 --> 01:34:14,754 Yes. That's exactly what happened. 2012 01:34:22,620 --> 01:34:24,831 Brilliant. 2013 01:34:24,864 --> 01:34:26,766 You got it. 2014 01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,401 You got it all. 2015 01:34:28,435 --> 01:34:31,771 That's a story about America. 2016 01:34:31,805 --> 01:34:34,574 Let me know if you need me to rerecord anything. 2017 01:34:34,607 --> 01:34:36,443 Or, like, rephrase things. 2018 01:34:36,476 --> 01:34:38,578 I can do that, too. 2019 01:34:39,579 --> 01:34:40,647 What? 2020 01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:41,881 Oh, come... 2021 01:34:41,915 --> 01:34:43,583 You and I are gonna be sitting on a panel 2022 01:34:43,616 --> 01:34:45,850 talking about this. I want it to be great. 2023 01:34:45,118 --> 01:34:47,787 We both know how this works. Right? 2024 01:34:47,821 --> 01:34:49,122 Yeah, I-I mean, at first, 2025 01:34:49,155 --> 01:34:53,893 everyone's gonna think you got your bad guy. 2026 01:34:55,729 --> 01:34:58,640 Nobody's gonna let it be that simple. 2027 01:34:58,980 --> 01:34:59,532 Everyone's gonna have to have their take 2028 01:34:59,566 --> 01:35:02,469 'cause that's how it works now. 2029 01:35:02,502 --> 01:35:04,671 Everyone has a take. 2030 01:35:04,704 --> 01:35:06,573 See, if you don't have a take, you don't have a voice. 2031 01:35:06,606 --> 01:35:08,541 If you don't have a voice, you don't exist. 2032 01:35:08,575 --> 01:35:13,680 So yeah, at first, everyone's gonna blame me. 2033 01:35:13,713 --> 01:35:17,751 But then someone's gonna say, "Wait a second." 2034 01:35:17,784 --> 01:35:22,422 There's a big difference between leaving somebody to die 2035 01:35:22,455 --> 01:35:24,791 and killing somebody. 2036 01:35:26,493 --> 01:35:28,428 Then they're gonna turn to you. 2037 01:35:29,229 --> 01:35:32,499 What were you doing here in the first place? 2038 01:35:32,532 --> 01:35:34,667 What was your relationship with her? 2039 01:35:34,701 --> 01:35:39,105 Why would you exploit her grieving family? 2040 01:35:39,139 --> 01:35:40,907 Those... 2041 01:35:40,940 --> 01:35:42,609 Those characters. 2042 01:35:42,642 --> 01:35:46,460 I mean... I mean, that's what they're gonna be. 2043 01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:48,148 Famous characters. 2044 01:35:48,181 --> 01:35:49,816 Not famous people. 2045 01:35:49,849 --> 01:35:52,452 And then they're gonna blame the family. 2046 01:35:52,485 --> 01:35:54,821 Oh, I hope they're ready for that. 2047 01:35:56,556 --> 01:35:58,191 They'll blame the president. 2048 01:35:58,224 --> 01:36:00,226 The last president. 2049 01:36:01,895 --> 01:36:03,763 And then they'll start in with the conspiracy theories. 2050 01:36:03,797 --> 01:36:06,199 You know, and someone will refute the conspiracy theories, 2051 01:36:06,232 --> 01:36:11,871 and then one side will make their version like their cause. 2052 01:36:11,905 --> 01:36:14,574 And the other side will take the other side 2053 01:36:14,607 --> 01:36:18,678 just to take the other side and on, and on. 2054 01:36:18,712 --> 01:36:22,215 Until your story proves 2055 01:36:22,248 --> 01:36:25,952 the defining truth of our time. 2056 01:36:27,253 --> 01:36:29,255 Which is what? 2057 01:36:29,289 --> 01:36:34,260 Everything means everything. 2058 01:36:34,294 --> 01:36:38,898 So nothing means anything. 2059 01:36:42,635 --> 01:36:45,572 Some things mean something. 2060 01:36:47,140 --> 01:36:48,708 Yeah? 2061 01:36:48,742 --> 01:36:49,876 Like what? 2062 01:36:50,877 --> 01:36:52,612 Abilene? 2063 01:36:53,279 --> 01:36:55,115 You didn't care about her. 2064 01:36:55,148 --> 01:36:57,784 You came here for yourself. 2065 01:36:57,817 --> 01:37:00,653 For recording. 2066 01:37:00,687 --> 01:37:03,590 And then you heard her music. 2067 01:37:03,623 --> 01:37:04,891 And you saw her photos. 2068 01:37:04,924 --> 01:37:07,660 The record of her. 2069 01:37:08,294 --> 01:37:10,897 And that's what you care for. 2070 01:37:11,898 --> 01:37:13,767 A recording. 2071 01:37:14,901 --> 01:37:16,836 Not a person. 2072 01:37:20,173 --> 01:37:23,430 We are all... 2073 01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,112 just inspirations 2074 01:37:26,146 --> 01:37:28,748 for the record of ourselves. 2075 01:37:28,782 --> 01:37:30,283 You and I both know it. 2076 01:37:30,316 --> 01:37:32,652 You got your opus. 2077 01:37:32,686 --> 01:37:35,288 And that's what matters. 2078 01:37:35,321 --> 01:37:37,123 But Abilene? 2079 01:37:37,157 --> 01:37:39,250 The person? 2080 01:37:40,293 --> 01:37:42,662 Come on. 2081 01:37:42,696 --> 01:37:44,664 She was just some girl. 2082 01:37:44,698 --> 01:37:47,267 That's the truth, Ben. 2083 01:37:47,300 --> 01:37:49,135 Hundred percent. 2084 01:37:54,674 --> 01:37:56,910 ♪ Drive fast ♪ 2085 01:37:57,877 --> 01:38:00,213 ♪ I can almost taste it now ♪ 2086 01:38:00,246 --> 01:38:02,480 ♪ L.A. ♪ 2087 01:38:03,350 --> 01:38:05,251 ♪ I don't even have to fake it now ♪ 2088 01:38:05,285 --> 01:38:07,987 ♪ You were like so sick ♪ 2089 01:38:08,210 --> 01:38:09,589 ♪ Everybody said it ♪ 2090 01:38:09,622 --> 01:38:12,792 ♪ You were way ahead of the trend, ge-get it ♪ 2091 01:38:12,826 --> 01:38:15,995 ♪ "Elvis is the best, hell yes" ♪ 2092 01:38:16,290 --> 01:38:19,799 ♪ "Honey, put on that party dress" ♪ 2093 01:38:19,833 --> 01:38:23,203 ♪ Like ooh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ 2094 01:38:23,236 --> 01:38:25,271 ♪ Ooh, ooh, oh, oh, ah ♪ 2095 01:38:25,305 --> 01:38:27,607 ♪ You make me crazy ♪ 2096 01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:31,711 ♪ You make me wild ♪ 2097 01:38:31,745 --> 01:38:37,951 ♪ Just like a baby, spin me round like a child ♪ 2098 01:38:37,984 --> 01:38:39,819 ♪ Your skin so ♪ 2099 01:38:39,853 --> 01:38:44,357 ♪ Golden brown ♪ 2100 01:38:44,391 --> 01:38:46,393 ♪ Be young ♪ 2101 01:38:46,426 --> 01:38:50,196 ♪ Be dope, be proud ♪ 2102 01:38:50,230 --> 01:38:52,832 ♪ Like an American ♪ 2103 01:38:52,866 --> 01:38:56,870 ♪ Ooh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ 2104 01:38:56,903 --> 01:38:58,838 ♪ Like an American ♪ 2105 01:38:58,872 --> 01:39:03,900 ♪ Ooh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ 2106 01:39:07,380 --> 01:39:10,216 ♪ Everybody wants to go fast ♪ 2107 01:39:10,250 --> 01:39:13,253 ♪ But they can't compare ♪ 2108 01:39:13,286 --> 01:39:16,856 ♪ I don't really want the rest ♪ 2109 01:39:16,890 --> 01:39:19,893 ♪ Only you can take me there ♪ 2110 01:39:19,926 --> 01:39:22,662 ♪ I don't even know what I'm saying ♪ 2111 01:39:22,696 --> 01:39:30,300 ♪ But I'm praying for you... ♪ 2112 01:39:32,205 --> 01:39:34,407 We got a report of a possible overdose. 2113 01:39:34,441 --> 01:39:36,142 4940, Afterparty. 2114 01:39:36,176 --> 01:39:37,444 Ambulance en route. 2115 01:39:37,477 --> 01:39:40,280 A 911 on a Saturday night? 2116 01:39:40,313 --> 01:39:42,820 Bullshit. 2117 01:39:42,115 --> 01:39:43,216 People. 2118 01:39:43,249 --> 01:39:44,384 Got a report. 2119 01:39:44,417 --> 01:39:45,885 Quentin Sellers shot in the head. 2120 01:39:45,919 --> 01:39:46,920 Q? 2121 01:39:46,953 --> 01:39:49,890 I never thought of that guy as accident-prone. 2122 01:39:49,122 --> 01:39:52,225 ♪ Let's get wild tonight, check your heart at the door ♪ 2123 01:39:53,930 --> 01:39:55,929 ♪ That ain't what tonight is for ♪ 2124 01:39:55,962 --> 01:39:58,164 ♪ It's an old times, good times... ♪ 2125 01:39:59,799 --> 01:40:05,105 ♪ Gonna send you this text when I get signal ♪ 2126 01:40:06,206 --> 01:40:11,277 ♪ I'll know just the words to say when I do... ♪ 2127 01:40:23,823 --> 01:40:25,959 I heard that y'all made up. 2128 01:40:27,930 --> 01:40:29,290 Yeah. 2129 01:40:29,929 --> 01:40:33,767 And I understand that was quite a party last night. 2130 01:40:35,402 --> 01:40:37,737 I wasn't there. 2131 01:40:38,371 --> 01:40:40,340 That's right, you weren't. 2132 01:40:40,373 --> 01:40:41,975 But... 2133 01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,780 I heard it was a pretty good party. 2134 01:40:48,281 --> 01:40:54,200 I've... very much enjoyed being in your home. 2135 01:40:57,190 --> 01:40:59,359 You're gonna need a ride. 2136 01:40:59,392 --> 01:41:00,493 That's true. 2137 01:41:00,527 --> 01:41:03,863 My car is, uh... 2138 01:41:04,964 --> 01:41:07,801 What are your plans when you get back? 2139 01:41:07,834 --> 01:41:10,103 Guess I have to find a new story. 2140 01:41:10,136 --> 01:41:12,172 After all that? 2141 01:41:12,205 --> 01:41:14,908 What about all that stuff with Abby? 2142 01:41:14,941 --> 01:41:18,178 I think that story's just for us. 2143 01:41:18,211 --> 01:41:20,180 Oh. 2144 01:41:22,415 --> 01:41:25,218 That's nice, too. 2145 01:41:25,251 --> 01:41:27,253 No regrets. 2146 01:41:27,287 --> 01:41:28,555 I never understood that. 2147 01:41:28,588 --> 01:41:30,123 No regrets. 2148 01:41:30,156 --> 01:41:32,892 I mean, how do you... 2149 01:41:34,561 --> 01:41:38,131 In my life, everything starts with a regret, 2150 01:41:38,164 --> 01:41:39,466 ends with a regret. 2151 01:41:39,499 --> 01:41:42,235 In between, regrets. 2152 01:41:42,268 --> 01:41:44,871 It's all regrets. 2153 01:41:44,904 --> 01:41:47,400 You run as fast as you can from the last regret 2154 01:41:47,730 --> 01:41:48,508 and, of course, you're just running 2155 01:41:48,541 --> 01:41:50,443 straight into the next one. 2156 01:41:50,477 --> 01:41:52,412 That's life. 2157 01:41:52,445 --> 01:41:53,880 It's all regrets. 2158 01:41:53,913 --> 01:41:56,316 That's what they should say. 2159 01:41:56,349 --> 01:41:58,218 No other way to be alive. 2160 01:41:59,519 --> 01:42:01,855 It's all regrets. 2161 01:42:02,889 --> 01:42:04,824 Make 'em count.